2013-11-18, 14:13 | Link #1301 |
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A little change of pace...
Prince William says he'd love to have new PlayStation 4 - if Kate will let him I lol'd
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2013-11-18, 14:39 | Link #1302 | ||
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The PS4 probably won't catch up to the Wii U's ~3.2 million + change until New Year's. The Wii U is a dead console, but it's not quite that dead! Quote:
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2013-11-18, 14:47 | Link #1303 | |
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Yes, I'll keep saying this until people get it: launch sales mean absolutely nothing for the future of a console and are only indicative of manufacturing and logistics ability from the manufacturing company. It does not mean anything else. If Sony had made 2 millions in time of release it would have still sold out. I would start raising an eyebrow if they had managed to put 4M in stores at launch day but then I would be asking if where the hell had they been hiding them these last year because that would be an insane number of consoles produced. If Microsoft has 1M consoles ready to put in stores shelves by launch date I can assure you they'll sell out as well. It's just the nature of the game. (btw, I seriously doubt that MS can match that number given the fact that they have backed out of previously announced launch dates for certain countries due to stock) What really impresses me here is Sony ability to put 1M consoles on North America and still have enough inventory left over to launch in the EU just two weeks later. Now that is a bloody impressive show of logistics that not many companies can match. Out of the top of my head I can see Apple doing it but they are known to be insanely good at logistics (Tim Cook is regularly quoted as the mastermind behind Apple's outstanding logistics) and maybe someone like Toyota but I have my doubts. It's seriously impressive and I can't wait to see how the EU numbers turn out but (just to reiterate) it means absolutely nothing about long term viability of the system. Remember the original Wii? It was sold out all the way from the Black Friday release date all the way into the next year and that didn't particularly help the abyssal third party support for the system throughout it's lifetime. Sure it sold like a beast but the games didn't and as a gamer I'm interested in games, not which system sells the most.
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If the PS4 had sold out only after being available for a week or two, then the launch wouldn't have been as successful or as significant. The fact that they sold out immediately sends a much stronger signal to all of its business partners. Quote:
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2013-11-18, 15:20 | Link #1307 | ||
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What really matters is the Launch "window" sales (first 3 months). Those are the ones that dictate retail space, third-party support, etc. Quote:
I wouldn't call publishing what amounts to Shovelware and refusing to publish/doing fairly limited runs of genuinely great games third-party support. There were companies that made some money selling to clueless parents looking for Wii games but that's about it. Some publishers thought it was an el-dourado but quickly realised that working with Nintendo was way harder than the peanuts they were getting from clueless shoppers buying crap.
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2013-11-18, 16:00 | Link #1308 | ||
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Didn't a lot of Call of Duty games show up on the Wii? How well did those sell compared to the PS360 versions? Quote:
Sony probably started PS4 production in August; and with 750k-1M units produced per month. The EU should have the same size launch stock as NA: 1 million units. Add an extra 500K for NA restock and other non-EU launches, and 2.5M seems to be a reasonable estimate.
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2013-11-18, 16:19 | Link #1309 | |
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Wii: 1.26m PS3: 11.91m 360: 13.8m COD: Modern Warfare 3: Wii: 0.65m PS3: 12.53m 360: 13.99m I wouldn't call the Wii versions stellar by any stretch of the imagination. EDIT: actually, out of the Wii Top Sellers list, you don't see much third party games besides some notable exceptions like the Just Dance franchise.
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2013-11-18, 20:16 | Link #1311 |
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Good for the PS4 really that it's getting off on a good foot. Certainly better to start off with good sales than play catchup the whole time.
As to the Wii, system sales were never a problem. The problem was having so few interesting games that it ended up in my closet for months between uses.
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2013-11-19, 11:23 | Link #1314 | |
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So you are having over 30 Wii games doesn't mean much, really.
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2013-11-19, 20:38 | Link #1315 |
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Probably because most people think that the system don't have any system seller. Thus, people saying it don't have any games and people are not buying it. People are not going to buy a system just to play PSone or PSP games. Also, Vita has a high attach rate thanks to PS+ compare to 3DS with just 3.
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2013-11-19, 22:24 | Link #1317 |
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In particular with me, I have bought like 10+ Vita games already on PSN without even owning a Vita. How's that for attach rate?
Seriously, that PSN store is scary. I can resist Steam sales, but I religiously check PSN like twice weekly for the free PS+ games, and I end up buying Vita games on sale even though I can't play it. XD
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2013-11-19, 23:03 | Link #1319 | ||
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It's free, and you never know if you might pick up a Vita in the future.
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2013-11-19, 23:36 | Link #1320 | |
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And that's not counting the PSP games I repurchased just so I can have it on my future PSV.
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