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weiwei · 2006-01-18, 20:39

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-Finally the chapter comes out, as we were waiting for since last 2 weeks
- in the chapter, i saw there is Tatsuki, i think she is spying the battle between Grimjaw and Tousen
-Tousen is BACK by the look of the soul slayer
- looks like hollow ichigo begins to take over ichigo body
- we can see how ichigo struggle his inner- hollow, and process of hollow modifcation[/QUOTE]

Kona · 2006-01-18, 21:47

I would be dissapointed if tousen came to grab away grimmjaw for what he has done. But he might hold tatsuki a POW. I didnt expect her to pop out of this chapter and ichigo you dult! you need your hollow to win. Thinks he can win by himself

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Kaka · 2006-01-19, 01:57

the chapter looks pretty exciting
I think I haven't seen ichigo and rukia for a month already lol

can't wait to see the whole thing

Nightengale · 2006-01-19, 02:09

I hope Tousen sensed Tatsuki, stabbed her, and left.

Then, Ichigo will go to her and......Tatsuki has turned into a Shinigami.

SuperKnuckles · 2006-01-19, 04:09

I somewhat expect Tousen to be there just to restrain Grimjaw then leave..

After all these chapters of fights, there has to be a break soon. I don't think Tousen will mingle for long.

Wolcik · 2006-01-19, 04:42

Tousen doesn't need to be alone, and he taking back GrimJaw would explain why Ichigo would be left to train

but it can be another Espada :P
I think that Tatsuki will only see the action if it's Tousen (the way of less bloodshead and justice)
I wanted to see Hirako here but...

Mizuno · 2006-01-19, 06:05

The funny thing is Grimjaw is stronger than Tousen, unless Tousen used Houyroku on himself and becomes a blinded demon...

weiwei · 2006-01-19, 15:54

well, ichigo must control his inner demon first in order to fight tousen or Grimjaw or whoever they are... it looks like ichigo try to make an agreement to his hollow... well, i guess Zangetsu will help ichigo, since he wants his inner- world to be peace

ooh-zoo-mah-kee · 2006-01-19, 18:28

yea i think GrimJaw would be much stronger than Toussen when he was just a shinigami but i think its pretty much certain that he is now a Vizard.. i mean why wouldnt he? thats the reason why he teamed up with Aizen and co. right? and thats what Aizen wanted. He pretyt much reached the limit of a shinigami's strenght and wanted to expand so he wanted to turn himself into a hollow to become stronger.. and it only makes sense that Aizen would make his subordinates stronger. Toussen as a vizard, imo, will be much stronger than the arrancar Grimjaw.

Kona · 2006-01-19, 18:59

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Originally Posted by ooh-zoo-mah-kee

yea i think GrimJaw would be much stronger than Toussen when he was just a shinigami but i think its pretty much certain that he is now a Vizard.. i mean why wouldnt he? thats the reason why he teamed up with Aizen and co. right? and thats what Aizen wanted. He pretyt much reached the limit of a shinigami's strenght and wanted to expand so he wanted to turn himself into a hollow to become stronger.. and it only makes sense that Aizen would make his subordinates stronger. Toussen as a vizard, imo, will be much stronger than the arrancar Grimjaw.

Technically, he isnt a vizard because he didnt use the forbidden techniques but theres no doubt in my mind he has a hollow in him. The reason why he joined aizen is because he wanted the side with least blood shed, and he thinks aizen has least blood shed. And his justice crap. Tousen might be tatsukis friend she mentioned that died (i forget which chapter). I wouldnt be surprised if that happen. Theres no proof of that if tousen is stronger than grimmjow or vice versa until something happens. This 3 week wait better pack a punch..

Morisato · 2006-01-20, 00:43

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Originally Posted by Kona

I would be dissapointed if tousen came to grab away grimmjaw for what he has done. But he might hold tatsuki a POW. I didnt expect her to pop out of this chapter and ichigo you dult! you need your hollow to win. Thinks he can win by himself

.

If he lets him take over, he's already loss.

emessen · 2006-01-20, 00:50

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Originally Posted by Kona

Technically, he isnt a vizard because he didnt use the forbidden techniques but theres no doubt in my mind he has a hollow in him.

A Vizard is by the book's definition a Shinigami who has sought and gained the powers of a hollow... through any means...

let's make this easier to understand

shinigami turned hybrid = Vizard
Hollow turned hybrid = arrancar

IF Tousen has a hollow in him.. he is a Vizard...

Mizuno · 2006-01-20, 02:33

Kubo should stop teasing us by inserting Tatsuki in there, every time giving us hope she would gain power one way or another but yet it hasn't happen.

Ichimaru · 2006-01-20, 02:55

shinigame captain > hallow
hallow perfect aranka = shinigami captain??
vizard > rest?

Thewanderer · 2006-01-20, 03:41

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Originally Posted by The Small One

Take out "giving us hope" and replace it by "letting us fear".

Tatsuki > Orihime

Kona · 2006-01-20, 06:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by emessen

A Vizard is by the book's definition a Shinigami who has sought and gained the powers of a hollow... through any means...

let's make this easier to understand

shinigami turned hybrid = Vizard
Hollow turned hybrid = arrancar

IF Tousen has a hollow in him.. he is a Vizard...

Your missing my point. Im saying techincally HE isnt a vizard because the hougyoku is not a forbidden technique.

Kinny Riddle · 2006-01-20, 13:47

After the battle, Hitsugaya collapses with blood all over (again!?

) and Renji's Zabimaru falls apart, Renji himself barely able to stand.

Renji believes even if they were to start the battle without their limiters on, they would not be sure of winning. It was down to luck, the Arrancars were shaken upon hearing that Renji and co's powers have now gone up 5 times and fled at once, leaving a fatal opening in which Renji and co didn't hesitate to take, it was their only chance to kill those Arrancars.

Had the Arrancars kept their cool and not fled, things would turn for the worse. Renji knows Ichigo is in big trouble. (That's KT's justification/excuse for the Arrancars getting pwned so quickly for those that complained last chapter. )

Ichigo battles Grimjow in Bankai mode, he throws out Getsuga Tensou at Grimjow. Grimjow wonders why Ulqiora didn't mention this and sorts of compliments Ichigo. Ichigo accepts the compliment, but secretly he is struggling to hold back his Hollow self. Seems like Wichigo (the unofficial name for Hollow-Ichigo, it sounds silly, but I like it) is getting more and more eager to show off everytime Ichigo throws out stronger moves.

Tatsuki, what can she do? Maybe she'll be saved by Tousen of all people, if that's Tousen at the end. (Just wondering, how come people know that's Tousen? Is it the hilt shape of his blade?)

Kona · 2006-01-20, 15:13

[QUOTE=Tatsuki, what can she do? Maybe she'll be saved by Tousen of all people, if that's Tousen at the end. (Just wondering, how come people know that's Tousen? Is it the hilt shape of his blade?)[/QUOTE]

Yes that is Tousens Soul Slayer Suzumushi. Yes the hilt and guard are his. Tatsuki i really dont know but she was no#2 strongest karate girl something in japan. (I think shes number one now cause the 1st girl died in a car accident?). If yourichi trains tatsuki, that would be a sight to see.

Morisato · 2006-01-20, 17:37

No, if he has a hollow in him, he is a vaizard. Do you know what Vaizard means? It means mask (well Vizard does but same thing) so if he's half hollow, he's got a mask, so he's a vaizard. Arrancar means to remove mask or remove/tear off in spanish.

Wolcik · 2006-01-20, 18:15

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Originally Posted by Kona

Your missing my point. Im saying techincally HE isnt a vizard because the hougyoku is not a forbidden technique.

if Hougyoku isn't a forbidden technique that's mean that everybody around is turing vizard now

even Hanatarou can beat Aizen and co

back to reality... Rangiku kicked her enemy without him turrining shikai (it's better than to say realising

) he might be funny

so Arrancar are still better than Capitan, that's kinda cool to know that anybody who will come can win (for those that want real deaths in bleach)

why would Tousen be Vizored already? he still might be not alone, and how said that Grimjaw won't listean to orders

I think Aizen might start vizoring tests from Tousen, but wouldn't he tried with some kidnaped shinigami or something?

Aizen knew Ichigo had bankai, and he didn't say that he's weak or anything...
anybody from Aizen and co really don't know what capable of is Ichigo

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weiwei Nazi Bush Join Date: Jan 2006	Chapter 211 [Manga] Discussion http://img391.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bleach5xl.jpg -Finally the chapter comes out, as we were waiting for since last 2 weeks - in the chapter, i saw there is Tatsuki, i think she is spying the battle between Grimjaw and Tousen -Tousen is BACK by the look of the soul slayer - looks like hollow ichigo begins to take over ichigo body - we can see how ichigo struggle his inner- hollow, and process of hollow modifcation[/QUOTE] Last edited by weiwei; 2006-01-18 at 20:58.

2006-01-19, 04:42	Link #6
Wolcik Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Poland Age: 37	Tousen doesn't need to be alone, and he taking back GrimJaw would explain why Ichigo would be left to train but it can be another Espada :P I think that Tatsuki will only see the action if it's Tousen (the way of less bloodshead and justice) I wanted to see Hirako here but... __________________

2006-01-19, 06:05	Link #7
Mizuno Undefined Join Date: May 2004 Location: With the gods Age: 40	The funny thing is Grimjaw is stronger than Tousen, unless Tousen used Houyroku on himself and becomes a blinded demon... __________________ My forum

2006-01-20, 02:33	Link #13
Mizuno Undefined Join Date: May 2004 Location: With the gods Age: 40	Kubo should stop teasing us by inserting Tatsuki in there, every time giving us hope she would gain power one way or another but yet it hasn't happen. __________________ My forum

2006-01-20, 02:55	Link #14
Ichimaru Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005	shinigame captain > hallow hallow perfect aranka = shinigami captain?? vizard > rest? __________________ SHINSOU

2006-01-18, 21:47	Link #2
Kona Banned Join Date: Dec 2004	I would be dissapointed if tousen came to grab away grimmjaw for what he has done. But he might hold tatsuki a POW. I didnt expect her to pop out of this chapter and ichigo you dult! you need your hollow to win. Thinks he can win by himself .

2006-01-19, 01:57	Link #3
Kaka 罪人クロノ Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Canada Age: 38	the chapter looks pretty exciting I think I haven't seen ichigo and rukia for a month already lol can't wait to see the whole thing

2006-01-19, 02:09	Link #4
Nightengale ~Night of Gales~ Author Join Date: Dec 2005	I hope Tousen sensed Tatsuki, stabbed her, and left. Then, Ichigo will go to her and......Tatsuki has turned into a Shinigami.

2006-01-19, 04:09	Link #5
SuperKnuckles Anime Hobbyist Join Date: Dec 2004	I somewhat expect Tousen to be there just to restrain Grimjaw then leave.. After all these chapters of fights, there has to be a break soon. I don't think Tousen will mingle for long.

2006-01-19, 15:54	Link #8
weiwei Nazi Bush Join Date: Jan 2006	well, ichigo must control his inner demon first in order to fight tousen or Grimjaw or whoever they are... it looks like ichigo try to make an agreement to his hollow... well, i guess Zangetsu will help ichigo, since he wants his inner- world to be peace

2006-01-19, 18:28	Link #9
ooh-zoo-mah-kee naa woo toe? Join Date: Dec 2004	yea i think GrimJaw would be much stronger than Toussen when he was just a shinigami but i think its pretty much certain that he is now a Vizard.. i mean why wouldnt he? thats the reason why he teamed up with Aizen and co. right? and thats what Aizen wanted. He pretyt much reached the limit of a shinigami's strenght and wanted to expand so he wanted to turn himself into a hollow to become stronger.. and it only makes sense that Aizen would make his subordinates stronger. Toussen as a vizard, imo, will be much stronger than the arrancar Grimjaw.

2006-01-20, 13:47	Link #17
Kinny Riddle Gone for Good Join Date: Apr 2004	After the battle, Hitsugaya collapses with blood all over (again!? ) and Renji's Zabimaru falls apart, Renji himself barely able to stand. Renji believes even if they were to start the battle without their limiters on, they would not be sure of winning. It was down to luck, the Arrancars were shaken upon hearing that Renji and co's powers have now gone up 5 times and fled at once, leaving a fatal opening in which Renji and co didn't hesitate to take, it was their only chance to kill those Arrancars. Had the Arrancars kept their cool and not fled, things would turn for the worse. Renji knows Ichigo is in big trouble. (That's KT's justification/excuse for the Arrancars getting pwned so quickly for those that complained last chapter. ) Ichigo battles Grimjow in Bankai mode, he throws out Getsuga Tensou at Grimjow. Grimjow wonders why Ulqiora didn't mention this and sorts of compliments Ichigo. Ichigo accepts the compliment, but secretly he is struggling to hold back his Hollow self. Seems like Wichigo (the unofficial name for Hollow-Ichigo, it sounds silly, but I like it) is getting more and more eager to show off everytime Ichigo throws out stronger moves. Tatsuki, what can she do? Maybe she'll be saved by Tousen of all people, if that's Tousen at the end. (Just wondering, how come people know that's Tousen? Is it the hilt shape of his blade?)

2006-01-20, 15:13	Link #18
Kona Banned Join Date: Dec 2004	[QUOTE=Tatsuki, what can she do? Maybe she'll be saved by Tousen of all people, if that's Tousen at the end. (Just wondering, how come people know that's Tousen? Is it the hilt shape of his blade?)[/QUOTE] Yes that is Tousens Soul Slayer Suzumushi. Yes the hilt and guard are his. Tatsuki i really dont know but she was no#2 strongest karate girl something in japan. (I think shes number one now cause the 1st girl died in a car accident?). If yourichi trains tatsuki, that would be a sight to see.

2006-01-20, 17:37	Link #19
Morisato Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005	No, if he has a hollow in him, he is a vaizard. Do you know what Vaizard means? It means mask (well Vizard does but same thing) so if he's half hollow, he's got a mask, so he's a vaizard. Arrancar means to remove mask or remove/tear off in spanish.