2009-07-21, 12:42 | Link #101 |
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some characters so far in the anime from xing are looking for immortality through the philiosopher's stone right, so how come they dont try and copy greed and go for that through transmuting the soul into an object which would appear to be a lot easier than getting the stone
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2009-07-21, 13:02 | Link #102 | |
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Apparently, although that method seems easier than getting the stone, it's not so simple either. Ed got the knowledge to do that from crossing the gate once, and the method needs sacrifice too (Ed sacrificed his arm). The Philosopher's stone is the only key to free transmutaion, without the cost of anything!
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2009-07-21, 15:32 | Link #106 | |
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2009-07-21, 16:26 | Link #107 |
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Greed didn't seem to care much... When the alternative is death, some people may not care about the price that comes along with immortality... not to mention that since there still is a way to die, suicide always remains an option if you can't take it anymore
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2009-07-21, 20:55 | Link #109 |
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the general feeling i get from people of high power (the emperor of xing in our case) would do anything to live forever so not having any feeling is acceptable when compared to the alternative, but that's just my assumption
in any case did ed really forget how he transmuted al? i can't remember if he told greed he forgot how assuming he didnt, ed could 'technically' use someone else's body parts as equivalent exchange right? not sure if we're told how the armor guys in lab 5 were made. it assumes the person that created them has seen the truth so was it hohenheim? |
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2009-07-22, 02:48 | Link #111 | |
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2009-07-22, 08:46 | Link #113 | |
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And they obviously must've used one of their philosopher's stones as the fee for the human transmutation. |
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2009-07-22, 09:27 | Link #114 |
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I'm not so sure...
Remember that Ed only gave up his body parts to: #1: See the truth #2: Retrieve Al's soul The blood crest was an alchemic array that bounded Al's soul to the armor... I don't think anything in particular needs to be sacrificed if you already have the soul and are just transferring it to a different body. You give up one body in exchange for the other, basically. |
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as far as i know, the stone allows you to bypass any exchange fees but do you need to have the knowledge to do the transmuting in the first place ie, if a kid picks the stone, they wouldn't be able to do anything with it correct? |
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2009-07-22, 12:13 | Link #119 |
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and another thing, why was all of al's body taken as exchange for seeing the truth compared to ed and their master who only lost a limb/organs?
also, is there a limit on how much a real philosopher's stone can be used? kind of like in the first series if you use it for something big enough it'll deplete it? |
2009-07-22, 12:24 | Link #120 |
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The first question is an unknown. It could be that the truth simply decided on its own to give Al more knowledge, and thus he had to pay the biggest fee for the equivalent exchange.
As for the second, a philosopher's stone can be used for as along as there are souls left in it. This is why homunculi eventually die after you continuously deplete their stone. When the number of souls reaches zero, the stone shatters. |
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