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2012-02-27, 16:45 | Link #4622 | |
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Of course, that wasn't artificial. They're not in the same division, where the geography doesn't make sense. Just like how Patriots-Colts is not artificial. Rivalries like these formed because both teams were good for a while. But notice, Cowboys-Niners isn't much of a rivalry anymore - just because both teams have sucked for the past decade (or more). Could there become a Giants-Packers rivalry? Time will tell on this one.
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2012-02-27, 17:02 | Link #4623 |
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Kyuu I get what you are saying, but if you take that mode of thinking, then technically speaking you'd have to have realignment every so often (30 years) because the rivalries "aren't interesting or genuine".
These things are cyclical you know? Frankly the divisions for any sports should be as concise as possible for travel schedules and easy reach for rival fanbases to create buzz. Anything else is just extra. What's more while it depends on the respective division somewhat, I doubt most big wigs would see such a realignment proposal as a financially prudent decision. Especially in the NFC East and North. Money would be at stake, why rock the boat? That history has equaled money, only when bridges are burned (like in some college scenarios) do people want big change. |
2012-02-27, 17:52 | Link #4624 | |
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Even so, in the event where team expansion does occur, it should not be absolutely necessary to retain previous divisional alignments for the sake of "historical" rivalry. If a rivalry is really that historic, it'll still exist regardless of divisional alignment. And indeed. Not forgetting the cyclical nature of competition. After all, Bears-Packers have been blah, until both teams are playoff level, which they actually have for the past 5-7 years. And yup. Change... oh so hard to come by when money is involved, isn't it? Now, imagine for the CFL to finally ditch their ridiculous rules and join the NFL. Wouldn't that be something? (Who am I kiddin'... XD)
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2012-02-27, 17:59 | Link #4625 | |
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A Ravens-Steelers game in Baltimore has tickets in the nose-bleed section sell for about $200. And they sell out damned fast. Ravens-Cardinals, however, sell for maybe $79, and that's for good seats. Not mid-field good, but still in the first 15 rows or so. Why would ownership give up two games that sell that well, and get such high ratings, just because? Even if they still played once a year like Pats-Colts did, that's still one less game of such high revenue/viewing. And really, why would team X playing team Y be more inherantly interesting than team Z? Just because they don't play as often? What if it turns out to be more boring? |
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2012-02-27, 18:22 | Link #4626 |
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FYI. I've been to a Bears-Packers game. So, I most certainly do have a general feel of the "divisional" rivalry aspect, because just a little bit more is at stake in such a game.
Nevertheless, ticket prices vary by team and level of performance. (Oh, how sad it is to look at the Chicago Bears graph) http://seatgeek.com/football-nfl-ticket-prices/ Based on the money then. Cowboys with NFC East will remain a hot sell. For other teams/divisions, it is not that much of a factor. === EDIT: And another thing missing. Past NFL alignments. I doubt we've looked much into those. Sadly, these configurations aren't in Wiki. So, part of me is actually look for those -- to dump into there. :3
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2012-02-27, 18:52 | Link #4628 | |
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Other less likely possibilities are OT or a very, very small possibility of WR. The Rams intent to trade down and are talking with Miami, Washignton, and Cleveland. I presume all those teams are going after RGIII. |
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2012-02-27, 19:32 | Link #4629 |
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Alright. How do you feel about Browns-Bengals games? These two are rivals by virtue of their origins centering around Paul Brown. With these two being so mediocre for a ridiculously extended period of time -- it is somewhat ludicrous to label this example as a "rivalry".
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2012-02-28, 10:48 | Link #4630 | |
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2012-02-28, 14:09 | Link #4631 |
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I dunno, Washington surprisingly isn't that far off from being a contender. While they only won 5 games, but look at this:
Lost to Dallas by 2 Lost to Philly by 7 Lost to Dallas by 3 Lost to New England by 7 Lost to Minnesota by 7 That's another five games that they lost by a touchdown or less. Toss in San Francisco, which they lost by 8, and suddenly they're an 11-win team. Even you keep them at 10 wins, that's still more than the Giants had to get into the playoffs. |
2012-02-28, 16:26 | Link #4632 | |
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Just because you may not have an interest in it from a national standpoint doesn't make it necessarily invalid. I say again, the only major criteria for conferences should be regional cohesion as far as the NFL is concerned. And even then you have to make some concessions, Dan and Jerry make WAYYY too much money on the Skins-Boys rivalry to scrap it. |
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2012-02-28, 18:04 | Link #4633 | |
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2012-02-28, 18:06 | Link #4634 | |
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2012-02-28, 18:33 | Link #4635 |
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I know. I was just responding to the idea that only Miami (out of Miami, Washington, and Cleveland - those who have a chance at RGIII) is close at all to making a good run by showing that they were close in games while not having a quarterback. So, if they got RGIII and he's what he's hyped to be, then they become contenders if he so much as adds 7-9 points per game over Grossman.
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2012-02-29, 03:58 | Link #4636 |
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My reasoning was Miami has a good defense while on offense they have Reggie Bush and Brandon Marshall. Washington's D is okay but their offense definitely isn't. Cleveland...they've got more issues that require much more than just RG3 to solve.
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2012-02-29, 04:34 | Link #4637 |
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Hmm, apparently, the star of the Combine was Dontari Poe, a 6'4, 350 lb nose tackle that had a 4.8 40 time (very, very impressive for a man his size) and moved like a 290 lb DE on the drills. At lot of armchair draft "experts" has now moved him from the late 1st - early 2nd round to as high as my Carolina Panthers with the 9th pick. Interesting, I'm usually wary of workout warriors, though, but I was already aware of Poe and was hoping that Panthers took him in the 2nd round a month ago, so I guess I'll do a little armchair scouting work.
He sure as hell doesn't like he is 350 lbs. Edit: He was also been accused of taking plays off, but despite the fact that he is a physical freak, being the only good player on the defense of a pooty team that only won 5 games in 3 years and having to play almost every down will do that. Last edited by Dilla; 2012-02-29 at 04:54. |
2012-02-29, 04:42 | Link #4638 |
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BTW, with the Packers being able to resign Jermichael Finley expect the Packers to franchise Matt Flynn then dangle him for trade bait for a draft pick. I expect Seattle sitting at 12 would be willing to part ways with that pick, probably with some kind of performance incentive.
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