Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha Character Creation and Discussion (second reincarnation)

[Jimmy C]

Originally Posted by Keroko

Isn't that only if you have the Demons method of transportation? Like how Mara got sealed in the CD she used to get to Earth?

There's a more general type of seal. You can see it in the manga chapter 61 or the anime season 2 episode 15 (animated version of the same story). The only hitch is you have to get right up to the target to seal them.

Keroko's heart is far darker, tainted by brutal battles long since past.

And she's just a Second-class goddess? Oh well... they all have their reasons for not upgrading.

and though she will never be as pure and kind as the other goddesses, she will realize that ending a life should not be taken so lightly.

That looks like it'll be an interesting story, like your other Kerokos. Hope to see more of this one someday.

Guh... there is that, isn't there? Hrmm...

How about this? The plan was for the demons to pin the rouge down for Keroko to seal him. When Keroko gets close to him, something makes her decide she can't seal him and she kills him instead. The other demons can't stop her because they have to keep the rouge pinned or he will stomp Keroko and then attack them. Even they weren't expecting her to kill him, that may be their only defense against Hild's wrath.
You see, both sides should heavily indoctrinate their people against killing. Because if this very situation happens, one dies and someone from the other side doesn't die, a deep flaw in the Doublet System will be exposed.

Spoiler for the flaw:

Not everyone is Doublet-linked. That would imply that Heaven and Hell have exactly the same population numbers, an impossibility. In fact, I doubt more than a handful are actually linked. If there was true war, more would die through attrition than due to the link.

[Evangelion Xgouki]

Originally Posted by Wild Goose

...btw Eva thx for pointing out the Macross crossovers. And OMGWTF Ozma is Kamima?! No wonder he's better than the NUNS pilots. I can see it now... a VF-25S Armored... with GIGA DRILL BREAKER...

MACROSS OVERWHELMING. FOR GREAT MISSILE BUKAKKE.

You also forgot about him charging into a swarm of Vajra and yelling, "WHO TH HELL DO YOU THINK WE ARE?!"

Originally Posted by Wild Goose

@Eva X: Fuck YES Macross F crack. What bout my staaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaar~

The scene was just too good to pass up

Originally Posted by Kha

Yes with Lowe's research, we knew all this by now. However, after episode 14, there's even more Khrack for a young bridge bunny to go for ol' Genya.

Lol . And hopefully more to come in future episodes

Originally Posted by Kha

...maybe its just me not agreeing with it... ...or because I haven't seen the duet video...

Singing Hayate is intriguing though. I recommend using MY GRAVITATION from Seto no Hanayome instead, it would've been more appropiate and funny!

I still find it amusing to have Nanoha acting like Alto did during that whole scene

Originally Posted by Kha

Now if only I can stop playing WoW long enough to do Erio some justice. The recent leveling rush is killing meh.

Ah, I know that feeling all to well. Good luck on that lvling

Originally Posted by Aaron008R

See the situation now. And try to determine the eventual outcome if this is left unchecked based on previously recorded data.

In my perspective, I don't like how the direction this development is moving.

Allow me to quote from a certain relevant source.



I don't need to point out the specifics since it's in plain sight.

And to add my own personal touch.

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Urg....can we NOT have to go through with all this flaming emo crap again? The last time was bad enough -_-

Originally Posted by Keroko

Yee gods, how do you manage to turn out the Bluecheesium bombs time and time again?

I loved it. TeslaXGriffith, YuunoXNanoha with a great touch of drama, definetely among my favourite chapters.

Needs more TeslaxGriffith

Originally Posted by Keroko

I saw the youtube of that (still have to watch Macross itself), but the scene is awesome. HayaNanoFate is so rare in fandom, strangely enough.

Deshou?

Originally Posted by Kyral

Yes it does... but atm I try to concentrate on Memories of Blood and Sorrow.
But I still collect some nice Ideas for Nightfall. (I'm even working on the 'bossfights' already )

*cues the Final Fantasy VII battle music*

Originally Posted by LimitedEternal

If you actually made a deck-based style work, I'd take my hat off to you. (Assuming I wore hats. :3)

Originally Posted by Kha

I already have:

Spoiler for The Sakura Cards system used by Saber, Sankt Kaiser of Belka:

*snip*

Oh and Kouya can only use cards in Humanoid or Worgen form. Beast form grants him great feral striking power, but at the cost of the cards.

I could probably adapt my idea for the Fustle System to work with cards now that I think about it...

Originally Posted by Keroko

Comparing Keroko's pactio to the other pactio's, I found one or two minor errors, here's the new, fixed version:

Spoiler for Keroko's pactio:

For people who are going to make pactio cards, note that the title needs to be all-caps.

WIN!!!

Originally Posted by Kha

No wonder it was so goddamned familiar!!!

Slow Kha is slow

Originally Posted by Kha

Looks like Kouya the DeckkaMaster is a go!

Lol.

[Keroko]

Originally Posted by Saint X

And a minor error: since it's latin-ish, all K's should be C's

other than that, there are no more qualms

Huh, so that's why Asuna's name turned into a C, never paid too much atention to that before.

Oh well, one more time:

Spoiler for Pactio, this time with proper latin:

... It looks weird with C's instead of K's.

Originally Posted by Jimmy C

There's a more general type of seal. You can see it in the manga chapter 61 or the anime season 2 episode 15 (animated version of the same story). The only hitch is you have to get right up to the target to seal them.

Right, noted.

Originally Posted by Jimmy C

And she's just a Second-class goddess? Oh well... they all have their reasons for not upgrading.

Goddess rank has little to do with the brutality of the battles. Apocalyptic scale, yes, but not brutality. Keroko mainly fought of enemies that could be killed, and by all rights should be killed before they become a threat, this means that almost all of her enemies weren't Demons, but inhabitants of various worlds that tried to destroy Heaven. Natural enemies of Heaven, like creatures a similar nature as the Angel Eater were also on her list. Basically, she has become so accustomed to killing her targets, that the difference between taking a life and doing your job has become blurred. By the time the incident happened, she was like a hunter that can no longer see the difference between a human being and prey. It was a threat to heaven, and therefore had to be eliminated.

I didn't make her a First Class goddess because I view the First Class rank to be similar to the SS rank of Nanoha: Not something you toss around lightly. In Keroko's case it is her brutality that prevents her from upgrading, even back then she simply couldn't be trusted with that kind of power, for fear of causing more damage then her oponents.

Originally Posted by Jimmy C

That looks like it'll be an interesting story, like your other Kerokos. Hope to see more of this one someday.

Thank you.

Originally Posted by Jimmy C

How about this? The plan was for the demons to pin the rouge down for Keroko to seal him. When Keroko gets close to him, something makes her decide she can't seal him and she kills him instead. The other demons can't stop her because they have to keep the rouge pinned or he will stomp Keroko and then attack them. Even they weren't expecting her to kill him, that may be their only defense against Hild's wrath.

*Notes down* Thanks a lot, this works just fine.

Originally Posted by Jimmy C

You see, both sides should heavily indoctrinate their people against killing. Because if this very situation happens, one dies and someone from the other side doesn't die, a deep flaw in the Doublet System will be exposed.

Spoiler for the flaw:

Not everyone is Doublet-linked. That would imply that Heaven and Hell have exactly the same population numbers, an impossibility. In fact, I doubt more than a handful are actually linked. If there was true war, more would die through attrition than due to the link.

Well, I don't see how that should matter concidering both sides are already well aware of that flaw, as Peorth said during the Velsper debacle, it works because they don't know who the doublets are. It's the randomness that makes the system work.

[dkellis]

Ace attempt 1.0. Rip into it, please.

Spoiler for Lumina Celeste, the Unyielding Ace:

Name: Lumina Celeste
Nickname: Mina, The Unyielding Ace ("Well, I suppose it's true."), Blade Breaker ("What?"), Mountain Cleaver ("I told you, that was an accident!"), Boobie Prize ("...")
Gender: Female
Age: 20

Mage Rank: S
Magic Type: Midchilda
Magic Colour: Light purple
Specialty: Defense
Device: Cyrus, a Shield Device.

Build: Curvy, very very nice. ("I don't understand. I'm ranked S, so why do people keep saying I'm 'D'?")
Hair: Blonde, long, usually with a large pink hair ribbon.
Eyes: Blue.


Clothing:
Usual - Limited wardrobe. She's used to wearing her frilly waitress uniform, resulting in casual wear on the side of "boring" bordering on "monotonous". Mostly whites and light greys, T-shirts and dresses, with a few denim blue jeans and skirts. She does have a (white) large-brimmed sun hat she's very fond of.

Barrier Jacket - Winged silver tiara. Purple belted tunic and skirt with pale powder blue sleeves and edging. Dark indigo cape with a loose mantle, attached across her collar with a blue gem brooch. Single medium-small blue pauldron on the right shoulder. Silver choker. Silver bracelets on both wrists, with her Device on her left arm. Loose low soft boots, also pale powder blue with dark indigo trimmings.


Personality:
Where there is evil afoot, where there are criminals to apprehend, and where there are innocents to protect, Mina... may or may not actually be there, but she'll certainly try her best to turn up.

Mina is not exactly naive, but she has a certain stubbornly optimistic quality to her that refuses to believe in anything other than a happy ending for everyone involved. Due to the sadly misguided nature of most criminals, however, this Happily Ever After is by no means guaranteed, and so Mina has made it her life's ambition to make it so. In her mind, she's a hero of justice, swooping in to save the day in the nick of time, sending the bad guys running...

... and when reality invariably proves to be different, she panicks and flails around desperately for a while, before finally calming down and getting back to business. While she's not too happy with a real fight requiring underhanded and dirty tactics to win, she reluctantly puts aside her Ideals of Honourable Combat when the situation calls for it. Given a choice, though, Mina would rather introduce herself to villains with a Dramatic Entrance, a Heroic Pose, and a Speech of Justice, exhorting them to Surrender Peacably for the Good of All.

She can also pronounce capital letters, which is always a neat trick.

Mina thinks that being an Ace is just about the Coolest Thing Ever, even if she has to do all sorts of really dangerous things for what amounts to not enough pay. Always enthusiastic and energetic, Mina would be a great deal more hyperactive and irresponsible if it weren't for the balancing factor of Cyrus, her Shield Device. While Mina may be irritated at Cyrus's general gloomy outlook, and uncertain on whether his last remark was innocent or insulting, she relies on him to keep her level-headed, calm, and alive.

Tactically, Mina prefers to charge straight in and establish a good defensive position immediately, but she's willing to listen to advice and follow through on them. She's best when presented with problems broken down into the abstract, and the sudden shifts in tactics during a battle often leave her unprepared and slow to react. Even so, she's shown quite a bit of initiative in taking advantage of opportunities mid-combat.


Background:
Life in a small town on the 73rd Administered World was not exactly the most exciting, but with all the ancient ruins around, at least there were always places to explore. To be sure, there were several sites that were off-limits to the general public, and the archaeologists on site had all sorts of tools at their disposal to keep the curious away, ranging from pointed glares to armed guards, but the safer areas were popular with tourists and field trips. The ruins pre-dated much of recorded history, and there were clear signs that the ancient Belkan Empire had set up a major outpost on the planet in times long past as well, appropriating the structures for their own.

Mina had, by the final year of high school, attained a reputation for always helping those in need, even if she had some odd notions about how she went about doing it. Her excellent magical potential test results were already common knowledge, and everyone believed her to be capable of anything, which was why, on the day of her class field trip, she was asked to locate a lost child who had wandered into the uncharted parts of the ruins.

Finding the child took several hours, the search ending just after sundown. After Mina, tired but happy, handed the child off to the other rescuers who followed her, she accidentally triggered a secret passageway which dropped her into what was later discovered to be an ancient Belkan armoury. This would not have been noteworthy, until one of the shields talked to her.

Cyrus had once been a Knight of Ancient Belka, or rather the personality imprint of a Knight of Ancient Belka. The real "Cyrus" was obviously long deceased, but the shield remained, dormant up to the point when Mina trod on him.

With Cyrus's help, Mina emerged from the ruins, and further examination revealed that the shield Device was now coded to her and her alone. Many offers were made from the TSAB for her to enlist, but she turned them all down, not wanting to deal with the regimentation of military life. She did consent to training from qualified instructors, as well as the occasional job as a freelance contract mage.

Mina's adventures had sent her across the multiverse, against a great many opponents and adversities. In the course of her missions, she had earned the title of Ace, as well as a bevy of descriptors, none of which she wholly approved of. Fame is a fickle thing, and despite her wanting to be known for her defense of the weak and helpless, people inexplicably remembered the time a stray shot accidentally and catastrophically blew up a mad scientist's hidden base through an improbable chain of events. Apparently "Protector of Innocents" did not quite have the same ring as "The Girl Who Disintegrated A Mountain".

When she's not making Justice Speeches at confused criminals, Mina spends her days as a waitress at a popular cafe in the city near her hometown. There's a bit of an Understanding between her and the young bartender, except that neither of them are quite confident enough to actually say anything, and so it's a bit low-key at the moment.


Armament:
Cyrus is not very forthcoming about his own personal history, but he has let slip that his original purpose was to be a Device for his source personality, and he has no idea why he ended up abandoned on the world he knew as Farsight and the TSAB designated as Sefella, 73rd Administered World. He does give the very obvious impression that he knows more than he's letting on, possibly because he knows how much it irritates Mina.

Cyrus is downright talkative for a Device, willing to make his opinions known at every opportunity, whether by mage telepathy or vocalizations best described as a mellifluous bass. He would never be so gauche as to explicitly insult his mistress, but the sarcasm is enough to drown in. Cyrus usually expects the worst of any situation, although he has enough taste not to mention especially unpleasant possibilities.

When not set up, Cyrus appears as a wristwatch-like object on Mina's wrist, without an actual watch face. Setting up requires no pass phrase, but Mina insists on injecting some sort of suitably dramatic announcement every time anyway. Cyrus in combat mode appears as a round dull grey shield a bit under half a meter across, but he also controls six other discs of variable size which orbit around Mina in a lazy pattern. These discs can expand up to two meters in size, and can be used for point physical defense, in addition to other magical uses. Cyrus controls the disposition of the discs far more quickly and efficiently than any normal human, which leaves Mina free to concentrate on other matters; in effect, they are a well-coordinated two-person team, rather than simply a Mage and her Device.

It has been asked before why, despite Cyrus allegedly being a Device from Ancient Belka, he does not actually seem to use any Ancient Belka magic. Possibly Cyrus knows, but he's not telling.


Powers:
Apart from her magic, Mina is also very athletic and acrobatic, which helps her in finding high places to stand on in order to soliloquize on the nature of heroism.

Offensive:
- Power Blast: Mina points and shoots a standard beam of magical energy, ranked B in power. She can only fire one at a time, and it has to originate from somewhere on her person, but she can keep it up for an hour or so if she needs to.

- Shield Slice: Cyrus sends the discs flying edge-first towards the opponent. Their sharpness can be varied, although this is difficult to do once they are in motion.

- Shield Bash: Exactly what it sounds like. Mina does not have significantly more strength than any other fit young woman (outside of her Physical Boost magic), and she's not very good at fisticuffs anyway, but it serves as a good distraction, if nothing else.

Defensive:
- Deflection: Cyrus and the discs can deflect and reflect any attacks up to AAA rank or equivalent. This allows Mina to set up trick shots, hitting enemies from unexpected directions. Usually these work out very well, but sometimes, very rarely, Cyrus miscalculates angles.

- Shield Matrix: The discs can be arranged to form the vertices of a very strong magical shield. The exact strength varies depending on the number of discs used, the total area covered, and the amount of magical energy Mina pumps into the spell; at full strength and optimum conditions, it can block SS-ranked attacks, even if this covers only a relatively tiny area.

- Barrier Matrix: As with Shield Matrix, but with the discs each producing its own barrier, allowing for overlaps. Has the advantage of allowing barrier burst spells.

Support:
- Glide: Mina can fly, with most of the levitation on her feet. This also allows her to "skate" effectively just above ground level, but limits her top speed.

- Light: Mina can conjure up a small glowing orb of light, which hovers just above head-level in front of her, providing some illumination in dark places. This is easy enough for her that she does not need to concentrate on it.

- Physical Boost: Mina can supercharge her body for very short periods of time. This is extremely inefficient, and she cannot utilize much magical power, but it does help when she needs to leap several times her height onto a conveniently Dramatic lamp-post.


Excerpt:

Spoiler:

"Consider destiny," Mina said.

Narrative convention would have dictated a roll of thunder to punctuate her words, or at least an eerie wind to billow out her cape. Sadly, local weather conditions were most uncooperative, and so Mina had to make do with a dramatic gesture at the forbidding compound in the distance.

Undeterred, she continued, "Is it the destiny of the man we are about to apprehend to be apprehended by us? Is it our destiny to apprehend this man? Or are we just pawns in some larger, inscrutable game? And is this game played by unknowable beings with their own goals and desires, or by mere random chance? For what reason are we placed here, to carry out the roles we must play?"

"I would suggest that it is for the contract from the TSAB you signed three days ago, Milady."

"It is for Justice," Mina continued, resolutely ignoring the interruption. "For the highest cause of Justice, whereby we may rise above our basest greed and selfishness, which our quarry tonight has fallen prey to. We are the Allies of Justice, and we must serve our most Righteous Cause by vanquishing Evil wheresoever it may raise its nefarious head. And it is here, in this place, that Evil's nefarious head has been raised, thus allowing us the unparalleled opportunity to vanquish it! Fellow Allies of Justice, how shall we strike at the heart of this Evil?"

"At a reduced volume, I would hope."

Mina glared at the shield Device on her arm. "I've told you before, Cyrus, these things must be done with style."

"Your recommendation has been noted and observed," the Device blandly replied. "Your proclamations of your lofty goals have often sown confusion in the enemy."

"Was that supposed to be sarcasm?"

"I would never say that, Milady."

"Does that mean you weren't being sarcastic, or that you won't admit to being sarcastic?"

Cyrus remained silent.

Mina sighed. "What higher cause can we dedicate ourselves to, if not for Justice?"

"Not getting shot at, for one."

"Cyrus, sometimes I think your point of view is far too..."

"Appropriate?" the Device suggested.

"I was going to say cynical," Mina snapped.

"The two are often indistinguishable."

"Be that as it may," Mina said, "our job here tonight is to flush the snake out of its lair, and see that Justice is done. Is that clear?"

"Utterly transparent, Milady."

Trivia:
- Mina is very, very good at her waitressing job. She's the primary reason why it's so popular, at least judging from the predominantly male clientele. She also makes a mean strawberry parfait.

- Thomas Montero, the bartender at the cafe, was in Mina's high school class. She's had a crush on him for the longest time, while he's only just coming to terms with being the not-quite-but-something-like boyfriend of an acknowledged Ace.

- Like many high-powered mages, Mina eats a great deal. She's slightly embarrassed by this, and keeps a close watch on her weight.

- The title of "Blade Breaker" just seemed to turn up one day, and Mina has no idea where it came from.

EDIT: Added powers.

[Sheba]

No problem with her character as far as I have read it. And seeing a dumb blonde stereotype popping up in this thread is about as rare as rolling 18/00 in strenght in AD&D2, as far as I can remember from this thread.

[Evangelion Xgouki]

Originally Posted by Sheba

No problem with her character as far as I have read it. And seeing a dumb blonde stereotype popping up in this thread is about as rare as rolling 18/00 in strenght in AD&D2, as far as I can remember from this thread.

...huh?

[Saint X]

Guys:

Here's one of the many idea's i've been passing in my brain for some time now, taking it to OCC at least twice with satisfactory results, i'm posting it here so that i can get the opinions of others who are not on IRC that much:

Spoiler for Saint X idea: Special Academy Group A:

Bureau Special Academy Group A, or SAGA as it is known, is a special cadet group established specifically to handle and train recruits that are not normally covered in the Bureau Dictas, such as "Magical Geniuses" or people that are over-ranked or overpowered for their age (before the Aces, the estimated average age for a AA+ and above mage was 15), test cases or people that have something to prove or the Bureau needs to prove of worth- either in special medi-magical conditions or disorders (medical disorders that affect a mage's magical capability) or in something else depending on the circumstances, unconventional formats of the common Magical Canons of Mid and Velka )such as Midchildan Lyrical Magic and Reverse (Neo) Velkan), innate or non/semi-magical abilities that interest the Bureau (such as papermastery, phasing and mirroring) and finally, for people that use other Magical Canons asides from Mid and Velka (like the Dei Templars and others).

This group was first established as a way to recognize and somewhat organize the Four Aces into a coherent group- as introduction of one of them in a common/standard group may upset it in more ways than one. But as to not isolate them from Bureau Training, they are placed on rotation between the standard cadet groups during some parts of training- your group may have Nanoha along as your rival in racing the obstacle course then have Fate sitting with you during a review for Magical Combat 101 and so on. But Training aside, the curriculim is extremely different and varies from Wave to Wave- from group to group, as each indiviudal member has it's own uniqueness and needs special attention (esp for non Mid/Velka users of this time) so that he/she can integrate into the Bureau later on- and thus training is longer by at the most 50%.

As the Four Aces, or Wave 0 as they are known, began to make the bureau notice about the possibility, it had begun to scout the reaches of Ordered Space for any people willing enough to join with thier special abilities (Caro is different circumstance, as she was found by the Bureau to be "unstable" and had to be contained- thus spoiling her chance.) or sometimes, people simply come in- either by themselves or by referrals- though you can count by your fingers the number- the biggest wave to ever graduate was Wave 6 of MCY 75, with 8 people while the smallest waves were Waves 1-2 and 5, with one. There is no standard turnaround time for waves, as the SAGA is only formed when a cadet that qualifies appears.

The Group that administers and trains SAGA are also of the best in the Academy- they have to since they have to deal with "strange cases" alongside regular recruits- Hayate also became an instructor for Wave 3 as part of her command school training- as these were the first of the Neo-Velkans in the Bureau. Though the instructors mainly use their own ways and bureau resources to train these unique recruits, some instructional materials also come from various Ordered Space Academics, Esotherics and most of all, the person known as the "Gray Admiral", a title the bureau has came to all Admiral Kyla Scrya, namely for Gray and Silver trimmed uniform she and most officers of her three groups (AX, FIRED Group and The 13 Fast Transport Group- "Phantom Maids") wear- legacy of loophole in the Bureau Dress Code. Most of Adm. Scrya's materials are directly related to at least 2 Nondescript Magical Canons and most of the M&Ps (Methods and Procedures) the SAGA trainers use- such as the rotation scheme currently in place.

But with such a special group, there are hidden motives, mostly from commanders that see the potential for themselves- a stark contrast from other views, such as Kyla's expansion and improvement plans for the Bureau- to integrate as much good things as possible to prevent any full countering. And with each Wave, Eager Commanders flock to the Academy to check and possibly make arrangements- and most often SAGA graduates take up the best offers that they can think, unless Said Commander was able to pull some strings in the case of Wave 4 and 6- the only waves to have Dei Templars in them- which landed in Kyla's Command (Luckily, most Commanders still don't know about the Dei- as this issue was only kept in high and tight security and that they would not understand it without Kyla's help- said admiral having cetrain "arrangements" made with certain Dei personalities). So far only 13 members of the SAGA are being documented right now post training- the Four Aces as some of the more noted members.

[Jimmy C]

Originally Posted by Keroko

this means that almost all of her enemies weren't Demons, but inhabitants of various worlds that tried to destroy Heaven.

Slight problem, AMG's Heaven seems to be pretty much impenetrable to Unauthorized Personnel, including demons. So "destroying Heaven" is not possible in that way. Any enemy that could pose a threat to goddesses doing fieldwork ought to be dealt with, however. Trouble is, fieldwork is usually done by First-class goddesses. If they couldn't deal with it, it's certainly out of Keroko's league.

Natural enemies of Heaven, like creatures a similar nature as the Angel Eater were also on her list.

I think that little beast was a "gift" from Hild, her own creation. Belldandy did send it back to the Demon Realm after all.

I view the First Class rank to be similar to the SS rank of Nanoha: Not something you toss around lightly.

You're only half-right about that. If you've read Urd's 1st-class exam arc, you'll see that all goddesses aspire to get that First-class license. A lot of them may actually succeed. But, with the license divided into Limited and Unlimited categories and Limiters being more prevasive than in StrikerS, you can define available powers at your discretion. Your choice.

Spoiler for Doublet matters:

Well, I don't see how that should matter concidering both sides are already well aware of that flaw,

I'm not sure if they are truely aware of the implications. It's like this: Say full-scale war breaks out between gods and demons. 1000 gods and 1100 demons die in the conflict. So what if an additional 20 on both sides die due to the link? The system will be meaningless if either side understood that.

[Tempy]

Originally Posted by Evangelion Xgouki

...huh?

He means it's incredibly rare. To roll an 18/00 is like a 0.5% to 1.6% chance, depending on what system you're playing on.

Also, ITT: Ah My Goddess

Maybe I should recreate my AMG OCs...

[AdmiralTigerclaw]

Originally Posted by Jimmy C

Spoiler for Doublet matters:

I'm not sure if they are truely aware of the implications. It's like this: Say full-scale war breaks out between gods and demons. 1000 gods and 1100 demons die in the conflict. So what if an additional 20 on both sides die due to the link? The system will be meaningless if either side understood that.

Spoiler for DM Response:

Unless you consider how off balance the scenario could be if your strong and weak alike are mixed in the system.

Belldandy is insanely powerful unsealed. Velsper managed to not only bypass the System, but broke it to some extent, so he(now she)'s no slouch either, but obviously inferior in power.

And because both sides are random selections.... imagine the unease that would come about if say, Belldandy was tied to some fifth rate mook who could be killed by one of Skuld's malfunctioning inventions.

Hypothetical:
Say you get into a full scale war and Belldandy could have curbstomped half the Demon Army on her own. However, the fifth rate mook bites the dust in the first exchange... Belldandy drops dead before she can launch a single attack...

Oh.... Shit.

Now reverse that scenario for the Demons, their strongest combatants, randomly tied in with weaklings.

The randomness of the doublet system in itself keeps things calm for those not likely to cause a stir... But the thing keeping the Political Entities of Heaven and Hell from racing to arms at the smallest incidents is going to be the uncertainty of whether or not they would dive headfirst into a MAD situation or WORSE. The worse being: "What if the enemy loses mostly mooks, and you lose the cream of your crop?"

I've also got this gut feeling that Hild and the Almighty are doublettes themselves, just to set examples. They, with their vast power, interfere directly in affairs, come to blows, and kill each other... both sides are effectively decapitated. (It of course, helps that it's all but obvious the Hild had a little Fling with the Almighty. They wouldn't want to actually all out hurt each other because of that, though they may get along like a divorced couple.)


The doublette system introduces so many uncertainties, that effectively, waging full scale war would be serious gamble when the alternative is simply to not fight a war.

[dkellis]

Updated with powers descriptions.

Originally Posted by Sheba

No problem with her character as far as I have read it. And seeing a dumb blonde stereotype popping up in this thread is about as rare as rolling 18/00 in strenght in AD&D2, as far as I can remember from this thread.

Technically she's not a Dumb Blonde, but just a bit slow on the uptake.

The entire reason for this OC is because I wanted to see how much a character which was explicitly described as an Ace should be hax-busted. Which is why I say: rip into it. Go wild.

[FlameSparkZ]

Originally Posted by Keroko

Dimensional Transfer
Transfer magic used to teleport to another dimension. Not a typical Belkan spell, it appears to have been specially implemented by the Guardian Knight System.

Anyway, about the fusion of Negima and Nanoha, the biggest problem seems to be that earth is noted to have no magic civilization in Nanoha. Now the question is: What constitutes as no magic civilization? We know that 'no magic' doesn't mean zero magic (Nanoha, Hayate and Graham prove this) so what would make a world be labelled as having no magic population?

According to Chao, the Negima mage population is 67.000.000 mages, only roughly 1% of the total world population (currently estimated at just over 6.68 billion), and she is unclear whether this is referring to mages living on earth, or total mage population both here and Mundus Magicus, in which case the 'detectable' percentage of mages would become even lower. Now, I am one of those who chooses to believe that worlds like Mid have a very high mage population, around 50%, if not more. Compared to this, a world with only 1% of mages (all of whom avoid detection at all cost as well), this would seem like a world with no magic civilization.

My personal fusion has the TSAB and Earth mages aware of eachothers existence, but due to Earth being an unadministered world, the TSAB has a no-interference policy, which is broken only in the case of discovered Lost Logia. The extremely low mage population, and the fact that mages hide their existence from the normal people, has caused the TSAB to label Earth as a world without magic civilization.

Sounds good to me, and quite possible

Originally Posted by Keroko

As long as he doesn't look like Inuyasha, I'm cool (I never did like his character design).

As for Keroko, while the profile is still in the works, I can leave you with this:

Spoiler for she still likes black:

Originally Posted by Keroko

Comparing Keroko's pactio to the other pactio's, I found one or two minor errors, here's the new, fixed version:

Spoiler for Keroko's pactio:

For people who are going to make pactio cards, note that the title needs to be all-caps.

Originally Posted by Keroko

Huh, so that's why Asuna's name turned into a C, never paid too much atention to that before.

Oh well, one more time:

Spoiler for Pactio, this time with proper latin:

... It looks weird with C's instead of K's.

Yeah, it does

*warps away*

[Kha]

Originally Posted by Keroko

Ironically, Keroko is a tank herself as well (hence her title SAEVIO DEFENSOR, or 'furious protector')

As for 'ministrum' or 'ministra' I was thinking ministrum myself, but then I checked Al's card, which also says 'ministralis' so I just went with that.

Hmm... So its not covering each others' weaknesses, more like boosting each others' strengths? Like Kouya would benefit from the extra mana from Keroko and the Relic and use rarer and more powerful cards and combos, and Belka enhancement would supplement his Worgen Regeneration, while Keroko'd would have access to his card buffs, since they'd then be shared between the two of them? And unlike other mage+minister teams, they fight back to back rather than 1 shielding the other? (like Lina and Gourry? )

Keroko must have Dragon Slave! XD

...

And when its Zeit! adeatime!, I wonder Kouya gets as his powerup weapon... I had a Hand of Ragnaros at first, then the Dragon's Call and the Stormherald fought for the spot. Something related to dragons and fits well with the shaman outlook...

Originally Posted by Keroko

No, no, what she remembers is her life in the TSAB. When she realizes she has Royal Blood in her veins (just how she does that is still up in the air, though it most likely will be a Mundus Magicus thing), and accepts that she is a decendant of Belka, that's when she sparks the Relic's, and thereby her own, true powers.

Just how far those true powers go, I'm still working on. It also depends on the amount of powerups the series will keep throwing in from hereon (Negi's recent buff made me think 'hmm, maybe the Barrier of the Saint King won't be that overpowered after all'). I'm probably going to combine the Belkan weapon materialization with the recent energy weapon materialization (seriously, Negi chucking Lightning Spears in 219 was awesome.)

Oh.

And I REALLY need to catch up.

Though with abilities resembling BoSK and BWM (probably nothing like Tracing I guess), not to mention access to a Relic, I wonder what kind of Knight Keroko was... It's almost like she was built like a successful Vivio clone.

Originally Posted by Evangelion Xgouki

Ah, I know that feeling all to well. Good luck on that lvling

Difference is, I've always been playing. No regrets.

Originally Posted by Evangelion Xgouki

I could probably adapt my idea for the Fustle System to work with cards now that I think about it...

Then IXA's Fake Fuestles will FINALLY have some effect apart from Lyrical magic instruments.

[tshouryuu]

Originally Posted by dkellis

Ace attempt 1.0. Rip into it, please.

Spoiler for Lumina Celeste, the Unyielding Ace:

Name: Lumina Celeste
Nickname: Mina, The Unyielding Ace ("Well, I suppose it's true."), Blade Breaker ("What?"), Mountain Cleaver ("I told you, that was an accident!"), Boobie Prize ("...")
Gender: Female
Age: 20

Mage Rank: S
Magic Type: Midchilda
Magic Colour: Light purple
Specialty: Defense
Device: Cyrus, a Shield Device.

Build: Curvy, very very nice. ("I don't understand. I'm ranked S, so why do people keep saying I'm 'D'?")
Hair: Blonde, long, usually with a large pink hair ribbon.
Eyes: Blue.


Clothing:
Usual - Limited wardrobe. She's used to wearing her frilly waitress uniform, resulting in casual wear on the side of "boring" bordering on "monotonous". Mostly whites and light greys, T-shirts and dresses, with a few denim blue jeans and skirts. She does have a (white) large-brimmed sun hat she's very fond of.

Barrier Jacket - Winged silver tiara. Purple belted tunic and skirt with pale powder blue sleeves and edging. Dark indigo cape with a loose mantle, attached across her collar with a blue gem brooch. Single medium-small blue pauldron on the right shoulder. Silver choker. Silver bracelets on both wrists, with her Device on her left arm. Loose low soft boots, also pale powder blue with dark indigo trimmings.


Personality:
Where there is evil afoot, where there are criminals to apprehend, and where there are innocents to protect, Mina... may or may not actually be there, but she'll certainly try her best to turn up.

Mina is not exactly naive, but she has a certain stubbornly optimistic quality to her that refuses to believe in anything other than a happy ending for everyone involved. Due to the sadly misguided nature of most criminals, however, this Happily Ever After is by no means guaranteed, and so Mina has made it her life's ambition to make it so. In her mind, she's a hero of justice, swooping in to save the day in the nick of time, sending the bad guys running...

... and when reality invariably proves to be different, she panicks and flails around desperately for a while, before finally calming down and getting back to business. While she's not too happy with a real fight requiring underhanded and dirty tactics to win, she reluctantly puts aside her Ideals of Honourable Combat when the situation calls for it. Given a choice, though, Mina would rather introduce herself to villains with a Dramatic Entrance, a Heroic Pose, and a Speech of Justice, exhorting them to Surrender Peacably for the Good of All.

She can also pronounce capital letters, which is always a neat trick.

Mina thinks that being an Ace is just about the Coolest Thing Ever, even if she has to do all sorts of really dangerous things for what amounts to not enough pay. Always enthusiastic and energetic, Mina would be a great deal more hyperactive and irresponsible if it weren't for the balancing factor of Cyrus, her Shield Device. While Mina may be irritated at Cyrus's general gloomy outlook, and uncertain on whether his last remark was innocent or insulting, she relies on him to keep her level-headed, calm, and alive.

Tactically, Mina prefers to charge straight in and establish a good defensive position immediately, but she's willing to listen to advice and follow through on them. She's best when presented with problems broken down into the abstract, and the sudden shifts in tactics during a battle often leave her unprepared and slow to react. Even so, she's shown quite a bit of initiative in taking advantage of opportunities mid-combat.


Background:
Life in a small town on the 73rd Administered World was not exactly the most exciting, but with all the ancient ruins around, at least there were always places to explore. To be sure, there were several sites that were off-limits to the general public, and the archaeologists on site had all sorts of tools at their disposal to keep the curious away, ranging from pointed glares to armed guards, but the safer areas were popular with tourists and field trips. The ruins pre-dated much of recorded history, and there were clear signs that the ancient Belkan Empire had set up a major outpost on the planet in times long past as well, appropriating the structures for their own.

Mina had, by the final year of high school, attained a reputation for always helping those in need, even if she had some odd notions about how she went about doing it. Her excellent magical potential test results were already common knowledge, and everyone believed her to be capable of anything, which was why, on the day of her class field trip, she was asked to locate a lost child who had wandered into the uncharted parts of the ruins.

Finding the child took several hours, the search ending just after sundown. After Mina, tired but happy, handed the child off to the other rescuers who followed her, she accidentally triggered a secret passageway which dropped her into what was later discovered to be an ancient Belkan armoury. This would not have been noteworthy, until one of the shields talked to her.

Cyrus had once been a Knight of Ancient Belka, or rather the personality imprint of a Knight of Ancient Belka. The real "Cyrus" was obviously long deceased, but the shield remained, dormant up to the point when Mina trod on him.

With Cyrus's help, Mina emerged from the ruins, and further examination revealed that the shield Device was now coded to her and her alone. Many offers were made from the TSAB for her to enlist, but she turned them all down, not wanting to deal with the regimentation of military life. She did consent to training from qualified instructors, as well as the occasional job as a freelance contract mage.

Mina's adventures had sent her across the multiverse, against a great many opponents and adversities. In the course of her missions, she had earned the title of Ace, as well as a bevy of descriptors, none of which she wholly approved of. Fame is a fickle thing, and despite her wanting to be known for her defense of the weak and helpless, people inexplicably remembered the time a stray shot accidentally and catastrophically blew up a mad scientist's hidden base through an improbable chain of events. Apparently "Protector of Innocents" did not quite have the same ring as "The Girl Who Disintegrated A Mountain".

When she's not making Justice Speeches at confused criminals, Mina spends her days as a waitress at a popular cafe in the city near her hometown. There's a bit of an Understanding between her and the young bartender, except that neither of them are quite confident enough to actually say anything, and so it's a bit low-key at the moment.


Armament:
Cyrus is not very forthcoming about his own personal history, but he has let slip that his original purpose was to be a Device for his source personality, and he has no idea why he ended up abandoned on the world he knew as Farsight and the TSAB designated as Sefella, 73rd Administered World. He does give the very obvious impression that he knows more than he's letting on, possibly because he knows how much it irritates Mina.

Cyrus is downright talkative for a Device, willing to make his opinions known at every opportunity, whether by mage telepathy or vocalizations best described as a mellifluous bass. He would never be so gauche as to explicitly insult his mistress, but the sarcasm is enough to drown in. Cyrus usually expects the worst of any situation, although he has enough taste not to mention especially unpleasant possibilities.

When not set up, Cyrus appears as a wristwatch-like object on Mina's wrist, without an actual watch face. Setting up requires no pass phrase, but Mina insists on injecting some sort of suitably dramatic announcement every time anyway. Cyrus in combat mode appears as a round dull grey shield a bit under half a meter across, but he also controls six other discs of variable size which orbit around Mina in a lazy pattern. These discs can expand up to two meters in size, and can be used for point physical defense, in addition to other magical uses. Cyrus controls the disposition of the discs far more quickly and efficiently than any normal human, which leaves Mina free to concentrate on other matters; in effect, they are a well-coordinated two-person team, rather than simply a Mage and her Device.

It has been asked before why, despite Cyrus allegedly being a Device from Ancient Belka, he does not actually seem to use any Ancient Belka magic. Possibly Cyrus knows, but he's not telling.


Powers:
Apart from her magic, Mina is also very athletic and acrobatic, which helps her in finding high places to stand on in order to soliloquize on the nature of heroism.

Offensive:
- Power Blast: Mina points and shoots a standard beam of magical energy, ranked B in power. She can only fire one at a time (although she can effect a form of rapid-fire), and it has to originate from somewhere on her person, but she can keep it up more or less indefinitely.

- Shield Slice: Cyrus sends the discs flying edge-first towards the opponent. Their sharpness can be varied, although this is difficult to do once they are in motion.

- Shield Bash: Exactly what it sounds like. Mina does not have significantly more strength than any other fit young woman (outside of her Physical Boost magic), and she's not very good at fisticuffs anyway, but it serves as a good distraction, if nothing else.

Defensive:
- Deflection: Cyrus and the discs can deflect and reflect any attacks up to AAA rank or equivalent. This allows Mina to set up trick shots, hitting enemies from unexpected directions. Usually these work out very well, but sometimes, very rarely, Cyrus miscalculates angles.

- Shield Matrix: The discs can be arranged to form the vertices of a very strong magical shield. The exact strength varies depending on the number of discs used, the total area covered, and the amount of magical energy Mina pumps into the spell; at full strength and optimum conditions, it can block SS-ranked attacks, even if this covers only a relatively tiny area.

- Barrier Matrix: As with Shield Matrix, but with the discs each producing its own barrier, allowing for overlaps. Has the advantage of allowing barrier burst spells.

Support:
- Glide: Mina can fly, with most of the levitation on her feet. This also allows her to "skate" effectively just above ground level, but limits her top speed.

- Light: Mina can conjure up a small glowing orb of light, which hovers just above head-level in front of her, providing some illumination in dark places. This is easy enough for her that she does not need to concentrate on it.

- Physical Boost: Mina can supercharge her body for very short periods of time. This is extremely inefficient, and she cannot utilize much magical power, but it does help when she needs to leap several times her height onto a conveniently Dramatic lamp-post.


Excerpt:

Spoiler:

"Consider destiny," Mina said.

Narrative convention would have dictated a roll of thunder to punctuate her words, or at least an eerie wind to billow out her cape. Sadly, local weather conditions were most uncooperative, and so Mina had to make do with a dramatic gesture at the forbidding compound in the distance.

Undeterred, she continued, "Is it the destiny of the man we are about to apprehend to be apprehended by us? Is it our destiny to apprehend this man? Or are we just pawns in some larger, inscrutable game? And is this game played by unknowable beings with their own goals and desires, or by mere random chance? For what reason are we placed here, to carry out the roles we must play?"

"I would suggest that it is for the contract from the TSAB you signed three days ago, Milady."

"It is for Justice," Mina continued, resolutely ignoring the interruption. "For the highest cause of Justice, whereby we may rise above our basest greed and selfishness, which our quarry tonight has fallen prey to. We are the Allies of Justice, and we must serve our most Righteous Cause by vanquishing Evil wheresoever it may raise its nefarious head. And it is here, in this place, that Evil's nefarious head has been raised, thus allowing us the unparalleled opportunity to vanquish it! Fellow Allies of Justice, how shall we strike at the heart of this Evil?"

"At a reduced volume, I would hope."

Mina glared at the shield Device on her arm. "I've told you before, Cyrus, these things must be done with style."

"Your recommendation has been noted and observed," the Device blandly replied. "Your proclamations of your lofty goals have often sown confusion in the enemy."

"Was that supposed to be sarcasm?"

"I would never say that, Milady."

"Does that mean you weren't being sarcastic, or that you won't admit to being sarcastic?"

Cyrus remained silent.

Mina sighed. "What higher cause can we dedicate ourselves to, if not for Justice?"

"Not getting shot at, for one."

"Cyrus, sometimes I think your point of view is far too..."

"Appropriate?" the Device suggested.

"I was going to say cynical," Mina snapped.

"The two are often indistinguishable."

"Be that as it may," Mina said, "our job here tonight is to flush the snake out of its lair, and see that Justice is done. Is that clear?"

"Utterly transparent, Milady."

Trivia:
- Mina is very, very good at her waitressing job. She's the primary reason why it's so popular, at least judging from the predominantly male clientele. She also makes a mean strawberry parfait.

- Thomas Montero, the bartender at the cafe, was in Mina's high school class. She's had a crush on him for the longest time, while he's only just coming to terms with being the not-quite-but-something-like boyfriend of an acknowledged Ace.

- Like many high-powered mages, Mina eats a great deal. She's slightly embarrassed by this, and keeps a close watch on her weight.

EDIT: Added powers.

She feels like 90% Amelia, 5% Lina, 2% Gourry and 3% Luna. That said, as a S ranker, her abilities are somewhat lacking in my opinion except for Power Blast. Keeping up indefinitely, a B ranked attack, is somewhat unbalanced imo.

[Kha]

DK, I saw your post, but I'm in a bit of a rush; I'll review it later. Sorry...

And with the choice of Zafira's various forms for Kouya, comes a little bit of Khrack that took quite a while to hit...

And so, from Toushoukan Sentai Bakarengers, comes...

...the BakaMaster.

*FLEEEEZ*

[dkellis]

Apparently when I try to make Mary Sues, I'm the only one who thinks so.

Overpowered Character Attempt 2.0. I'm feeling a bit left out of the Everyone Yelling At Me that so characterizes this thread.

Spoiler for Mei Landau:

Name: Mei Landau
Gender: Female
Age: 10

Mage Rank: AAA
Magic Type: Midchilda
Magic Colour: Light pink
Specialty: Binds, Teleportation
Device: Gemini, Storage Device

Build: Small, adorable, to the point of saccharine cuteness.
Hair: Red, short.
Eyes: Green.

Clothing:
Usual - Bright colourful dresses, almost garishly so. Usually also with a slightly ragged large black pointy witch's hat, and a cheap-looking but incredibly durable star-tipped wand.

Barrier Jacket - Whatever she happens to be wearing at the time, plus a black cloak fastened with a silver brooch. Also, the hat and wand.


Personality:
Mei's infectiously cheerful personality owes a great deal to Fate Testarossa-Harlaown's kindness and love for her ward. Her style of combat owes a great deal to her near-obsession with magical girl shows.

In effect, Mei is living her dream of being a real-life magical girl, and one who is no slouch powers-wise either. She uses and adapts ideas from the shows she watches in her missions, with scarily effective results. Nobody quite knows whether this is because Mei has a gift for improvisational tactics based on the seed inspiration from the shows, or if magical girl shows really do have some tactical value.

Mei's overriding personality trait would be her curiosity: she loves to learn new things, and picks up new concepts at a startling pace. She doesn't always remember all that she's learned, but the process of learning seems to give her a thrill. This sometimes leads to her taking unnecessary risks in order to find out what's behind the next locked door.

No matter how many setbacks she receives, Mei never lets anything get her down. There's an occasional brittleness to her laughter, especially when the subject of family comes up, but it comes and goes so quickly that one may well have been imagining it.

Tactically, Mei is well aware that she's being put in all sorts of dangerous situations, and is perfectly willing to use her opponent's surprise at facing a little girl against them. She usually plays it safe, preferring to let her assigned partner do the actual fighting while she lends support however she can. Her biggest weakness, which has been exploited several times, is that she's easily distracted by the merest chance to learn something new and satisfy her boundless curiosity.


Background:
The earliest record in existence about Mei was a police report two years prior about an incident involving a dimensional criminal (who did not survive said incident). Several lives were lost during that time, including (according to that report) Mei's parents. All efforts to contact her living relatives, if she even had any, turned up no leads, and so Mei was passed from orphanage to government institution to the TSAB, especially when they discovered her magical talents.

Mei had already become known as a strangely withdrawn and silent child by the time Fate decided to take her on as a ward. In her inimitable style, Fate managed to coax the little girl out of her shell, and carefully teach her how to use her powers for good. This turned out to be useful when Mei signed up to be a TSAB contract mage (which would be a long story in itself), under special dispensation. Fate still worries about her, but accepted that this was Mei's decision, and is somewhat reassured that Mei never goes out into the field solo.

Curiously enough, discreet inquiries were made regarding Mei's past, and while there had indeed been a couple named Landau who perished in the dimensional criminal incident, no records of Mei's birth existed in any hospital in the area, and no birth certificates had ever been filed. Fate is personally reluctant to proceed further, preferring that past mysteries remain unopened, but the investigation is ongoing.


Armament:
Most people who first encounter Mei in action think that the Device named Gemini is the wand she carries around, from which almost all her power effects appear to originate. In fact, the wand is just a prop: a well-made collector's edition prop that is more expensive than it looks, but a prop nonetheless. Gemini is in fact Mei's hat, which has a persistent magical effect placed on it to make it seem less obvious than it should. Mei tries to keep up the charade as much as possible, but she is, after all, only ten years old, making it something like an open secret by now.

Mei claims to have found Gemini (the hat, plus the decoy wand) in the attic of the house where she used to live. The trail ends there, since nobody has ever heard of a Device anything like it. Mei is extremely protective of her hat, and refuses to let anyone examine it... at least, not yet.


Powers:
While there is technically nothing limiting Mei physiologically from using standard energy blasts, she is incapable of doing so, possibly due to a psychological barrier. In addition, while there is technically no actual requirement for her to act like a magical girl when she's in the field, she has to do so anyway for any of her spells to work.

Offensive:
See Support.

Defensive:
- No Touching: Mei projects a barrier which repels magical and physical contact. She can't maintain it for longer than a few seconds, but when it's activated, it can block S ranked attacks.

- I Mean It, No Touching: Mei's barrier violently repels any contact, with enough force to send anything in the way flying. Mei hasn't figured out the offensive possibilities of this yet.

Support:
- Stay Right There: With a twirl of her wand, Mei traps her opponent with an AAA ranked bind.

- Sleepyhead: Mei sends forth a great deal of magical sleep-inducing dust. When inhaled, it makes the victim lethargic and tired. Mei herself is immune to its effects, but she cannot selectively exclude anyone in the area. The dust cloud spreads with the air currents to a maximum of a two-hundred meter radius (if Mei gives it her all and with optimum spread conditions), and dissipates in around an hour's time. One may escape its effects by not breathing it in, whether through a self-contained oxygen source or just not breathing.

- Hey, Watch This: Mei opens a small portal in space, one meter (and always one meter) in diameter. The other end of the portal may be placed in somewhere she's very familiar with (her room, for example), or within one hundred meters of line of sight. She can hold it open with some concentration (enough to make putting up barriers very difficult), and if she accidentally closes the portal before an object goes through, the object snaps back to its original position. (If its original position cannot easily be determined to be at one side of the portal, then it can end up on either location at random.)

- I've Got Something In My Hat: Mei reached into her hat, and pulls an object out. The object must be able to fit through a half-meter diameter hole (the hat stretches to accomodate that much), and Mei must be able to hold it (ie nothing a young child cannot carry). The object may be longer than the hat, as long as it can pass through the hole. Mei can conjure any non-living non-magical material that she knows from it; the objects are made of mana-into-matter, and dissipate after ten minutes or so. One of her favourite tricks is to pull out party poppers and lob them at enemies, making for a bit of distraction. Mei can also put stuff back into the hat if she wishes, using it as a handy storage device. (Pun unintended.)

- Now You See Me: Mei can teleport within line of sight. There appears to be no distance limit other than that, although multiple teleports is very draining. In between teleports, Mei hovers in mid-air if necessary. She can't move very quickly while hovering, making it more or less a safety cushion for teleporting across chasms or such. Mei can also teleport one other person of adult mass with her, at a greater rate of mana drain.


Trivia:
- Mei studies in a TSAB-sponsored elementary school on Midchilda, and has already made many friends. The hat and wand, which she refuses to part with in defiance of school uniform regulations, are surefire conversation starters.

- Mei treats Fate as her idol and role model, which is a large part of why she chose to be a TSAB contract mage.

- No known limit to Gemini's storage capacity has been found, not least of which is because Mei has never really tested it. She's managed to put in the equivalent of forty kilograms of items inside without difficulty, though. The hat's mass and volume remain unchanged.

[AdmiralTigerclaw]

Sage Wiseman say: Try too hard you do.

You're coming up with characters that are more entertaining than overpowered.

[Keroko]

Originally Posted by dkellis

Ace attempt 1.0. Rip into it, please.

Spoiler for Lumina Celeste, the Unyielding Ace:

-snip-

EDIT: Added powers.

Originally Posted by dkellis

Apparently when I try to make Mary Sues, I'm the only one who thinks so.

Overpowered Character Attempt 2.0. I'm feeling a bit left out of the Everyone Yelling At Me that so characterizes this thread.

Spoiler for Mei Landau:

-snip-

If this is your consious attempt at making a Mary Sue, then I can safely say on thing: You suck at making Mary sues.

An insult that's actually a compliment, there's a first time for everything...

Lumina is a character with an original personallity, an original device, and an amusing, yet interesting background. Her powers are balanced, even the SS-rank barrier. You expect a shield device to be able to tank heavy blows. Now if she was AA ranked or you had said it could tank SSS ranked blasts, then we'd hammer into it.

Mei too, is a character with an original personality and quirks, she has exploitable weaknesses and original, balanced powers (the names themselves are hilarious XD) she has contact with one of the main characters, which is a possible Sue allert, but the way its played out its a good part of her background instead of Sueifying.

Originally Posted by Saint X

Hayate also became an instructor for Wave 3 as part of her command school training- as these were the first of the Neo-Velkans in the Bureau.

One bit of trouble here. Mid already had Neo Belka long before the Aces, as shown by Quint Nakajima.

Originally Posted by Jimmy C

Slight problem, AMG's Heaven seems to be pretty much impenetrable to Unauthorized Personnel, including demons. So "destroying Heaven" is not possible in that way.

Heaven is hardly impenetrable concidering we have various intrusions in the anime and manga. Heck, one episode of the anime even had Mara be personally present in one of Heavens main offices (the episode where Beldandy's license is switched for a Demon one).

Originally Posted by Jimmy C

Any enemy that could pose a threat to goddesses doing fieldwork ought to be dealt with, however. Trouble is, fieldwork is usually done by First-class goddesses. If they couldn't deal with it, it's certainly out of Keroko's league.

Hmm, true, but the Combat Division is there for a reason. How about she is to deal with the threats before they become a problem for the field workers? Not so much in the 'can destroy a first class goddess' way, but in the 'will distract a goddess from her assigned work' I imagine goddesses have schedules to keep, and the Combat Division is there to make sure the workers can stick to those schedules. They handle combat, Beldandy's class handles wishes.

Originally Posted by Jimmy C

I think that little beast was a "gift" from Hild, her own creation. Belldandy did send it back to the Demon Realm after all.

Really? But heaven had knowledge about its existence. I was thinking it was a natural inhabitant of the Demon World.

Originally Posted by Jimmy C

You're only half-right about that. If you've read Urd's 1st-class exam arc, you'll see that all goddesses aspire to get that First-class license. A lot of them may actually succeed. But, with the license divided into Limited and Unlimited categories and Limiters being more prevasive than in StrikerS, you can define available powers at your discretion. Your choice.

Hmm, in that case I think I will make her a First Class, Limited. It would give me more reign on her powers, while not immediately making her one of the strongest in the AMG universe.

Originally Posted by Jimmy C

Spoiler for Doublet matters:

I'm not sure if they are truely aware of the implications. It's like this: Say full-scale war breaks out between gods and demons. 1000 gods and 1100 demons die in the conflict. So what if an additional 20 on both sides die due to the link? The system will be meaningless if either side understood that.

Spoiler for Doublet Matters:

According to Peorth, they are. But to add to ATC, if we asume most goddesses are pure and most Demons are evil, then you are still stuck with the fact that few Goddesses would want to kill a Demon out of fear of killing a friend. Demons, on the other hand, wouldn't want to kill a Goddess out of self-preservation. For each Goddess you kill, there is a small chance of killing yourself. No matter how small the chance may be, do you really want to take that risk?

Originally Posted by Kha

Hmm... So its not covering each others' weaknesses, more like boosting each others' strengths? Like Kouya would benefit from the extra mana from Keroko and the Relic and use rarer and more powerful cards and combos, and Belka enhancement would supplement his Worgen Regeneration, while Keroko'd would have access to his card buffs, since they'd then be shared between the two of them? And unlike other mage+minister teams, they fight back to back rather than 1 shielding the other?

That could work.

Originally Posted by Kha

Keroko must have Dragon Slave! XD

Yeah. No.

Originally Posted by Kha

And when its Zeit! adeatime!, I wonder Kouya gets as his powerup weapon... I had a Hand of Ragnaros at first, then the Dragon's Call and the Stormherald fought for the spot. Something related to dragons and fits well with the shaman outlook...

Oh, before I forget, the Negima Keroko has no relation to dragons whatsoever. Neltharion's corruption never happened in that universe. I figured the whole relation to Belka was enough major background, no need to add Neltharion to the mix.

Originally Posted by Kha

Oh.

And I REALLY need to catch up.

Yes you do. Start downloading. Now. Nodoka in cute white mage-ish suit awaits.

Originally Posted by Kha

Though with abilities resembling BoSK and BWM (probably nothing like Tracing I guess), not to mention access to a Relic, I wonder what kind of Knight Keroko was... It's almost like she was built like a successful Vivio clone.

Descendant, not a clone. She was a talented Knight trying to keep up dying traditions, unaware of her lineage.

[Kha]

Originally Posted by Keroko

That could work.

Now just need to put the last touches. Rereading the chapters I've stopped at has been giving me a massive flood of inspiration.

Originally Posted by Keroko

Yeah. No.

Nooooo~~~ ()

Originally Posted by Keroko

Oh, before I forget, the Negima Keroko has no relation to dragons whatsoever. Neltharion's corruption never happened in that universe. I figured the whole relation to Belka was enough major background, no need to add Neltharion to the mix.

Ah kk... I've decided to settle for a belt anyway:



...goes with his newfound sentai outlook.

Originally Posted by Keroko

Yes you do. Start downloading. Now. Nodoka in cute white mage-ish suit awaits.

At chapter 74. To date the Book Shop.

Nevertheless... YES, MEIN KAISERIN!!!

Originally Posted by Keroko

Descendant, not a clone. She was a talented Knight trying to keep up dying traditions, unaware of her lineage.

Ah...

...

Erm... That sounded very... Da Vinci Code.

Not that I mind.

[Keroko]

Originally Posted by Kha

Now just need to put the last touches. Rereading the chapters I've stopped at has been giving me a massive flood of inspiration.

Deshou? 221 should be apearing soon as well.

Originally Posted by Kha

Ah kk... I've decided to settle for a belt anyway:

Spoiler:

...goes with his newfound sentai outlook.

More sentai?

Well, the manga already has the Mahorangers.

Originally Posted by Kha

At chapter 74. To date the Book Shop.

Ah, but in the recent chapters she actually wears the outfit.

Originally Posted by Kha

Ah...

...

Erm... That sounded very... Da Vinci Code.

Not that I mind.

I seem to be good at making references to stuff I've never read before.