(L) BLUE DROP ~Tenshitachi no Gikyoku~

[Diodati]

Originally Posted by Deathkillz

ahh the good old "bitter sweet" ending theme...what you wont think will happen might actually happen...but until then i can only brace myself...

It's not an unwise decision to expect the worst - massacres happen quite occasionally (hello Yami to Boushi to Hon no Tabibito).

that woman in ep one could very well be mari - whos to say that she didnt have a breakdown beforehand and is now just getting back on her feet? im sure she would understand how hagino would have wished for her to have a happy life...*cries*

But to me, Hagino's 'protection' of Mari needs to be 'on-going'. The dangers will only increase if the Arume succeed in their invasion. If Hagino dies at the end, then I don't think Mari can actually 'move on'. In fact with a ''Hagino Dying Scenario'', I just can't see how that snippet in episode 1 makes sense, whoever it is.

now we have another killable character ^^

Tsubael seems like the most doomed character to me >_<

Originally Posted by romulusx5

She looks harmless. BUT she's hot too. Ok I'm confused lol

Who, the Master Commander?!

Originally Posted by Hakuryu_Hikaru

NO FREAKIN' WAY! sorry for the caps.
If that happens I will go to Japan to have a friendly word with the writer.
They put their two faces filled with joyous and blissful happiness in the OP and one such thing happens? It would be criminal!
If that woman in ep 1 is Micchi, she just doesn't look like one of her best friends died leaving another widowed. Besides, I doubt that Micchi is writing a sad fanfic. It wouldn't be appropriated for such a reputable girl's school.

I agree. A lot of people are expecting a sad tragic ending because of the messy situation Hagino has put herself in, but I'm still quietly positive on this one.

The only other anime I know of which Ohkura Masahiko wrote and directed was Sentou Yousei Yukikaze which is also about an alien invasion - albeit it wasn't based on a manga, but then neither is 'this' particular Blue Drop story.

Without spoiling too much, Yukikaze ended reasonably positive and that show overall was much more sombre than Blue Drop: Tenshitachi no Gikyoku. So I'm clinging to that unrelated piece of trivia, and also (like you say) that Micchi's play will likely have positive 'meaning'. It's also possible they could fly off together in Blue, tying to those OP lyrics (which Ohkura also wrote....)

[Zippicus]

I've already prepared myself for a bad ending. If it doesn't happen, great, but I'm not really seeing much of a chance at this point. We have Mari wanted as a lab rat and Hagino wanted as a traitor, since we already know that the Arume win the war I'm not really seeing an easy way out of this mess for our heroines.

[Mentar]

There's always the "they manage to run and flee in Blue" opt-out. So, it's not without hope. But somehow a slightly more tragic resolution seems more likely to me.

[Solace]

I don't care if the ending is tragic, dramatic, comedic, Yiddish, whatever, as long as it's a *good* ending. Though I do expect at least some drama because of the current scenario Ekaril and Mari have been placed in. The slice of life style is nice at the moment but they need something more than just a small skirmish plot each ep to push the overall plot toward some kind of resolution.

Finally saw ep 6 last night.

Spoiler for quick thoughts.:

I wanted to smack the teacher, but she rightly redeemed herself at the last moment. Good on her. Although I really wanted to see Mari in a yukata.

[Hakuryu_Hikaru]

Originally Posted by Solace

I don't care if the ending is tragic, dramatic, comedic, Yiddish, whatever, as long as it's a *good* ending. Though I do expect at least some drama because of the current scenario Ekaril and Mari have been placed in. The slice of life style is nice at the moment but they need something more than just a small skirmish plot each ep to push the overall plot toward some kind of resolution.

Finally saw ep 6 last night.

Spoiler for quick thoughts.:

I wanted to smack the teacher, but she rightly redeemed herself at the last moment. Good on her. Although I really wanted to see Mari in a yukata.

Yeah, I didn't like the ending of FMA, but it was fair enough. Can't say it wasn't a good ending.
What I am thinking is, is because it's a Lesbian love story that is has to have a tragic ending? I've at least one movie in the subject that ended well.
And yeah, it was frustrating not to see Mari like that. A festival episode and that doesn't happen? And I still hope to see Hagino in that sort of traditional attire... I mean, she would look good dressing classic, I think. As if it were possible for her to look better. But one thing, we sure were spared to see something scarring on ep. 7!

[FatPianoBoy]

Considering that we know

Spoiler for basic manga premise:

the Arume win the war and rule for a millennium with an iron fist,

I can see Ekaril eventually being let off with an execution for her traitorous ways.
Tsubael's feelings are certainly doomed, though whether her very existence is... well, maybe if the Arume don't abide by the 'I was only following orders' excuse.

In any case, I have this nagging feeling that this can only end in tears.

[Lesca]

I think what happens to Ekaril is going to depend on what happens to the master commander, and Tsubael...maybe similar, but I wonder what would happen if Ekaril and Mari where to get very close and Tsubael saw it, she's very loyal to Ekaril but at the same time she has strong feelings for her and jealously can be a dangerous thing.

[Shiroth]

Wow, i can see that Mari will make one wonderful Mother in the future. Each episode she does something new to win me over --- i love seeing her in action, with a few blushes here and there. But damn it Hagino. Just from her facial expressions along makes her one hell of a interesting character --- not to mention outstanding and beautiful. From the bath scene, to her looking over a sleeping Mari. It's to much to handle sometimes. >_<

[Hakuryu_Hikaru]

Originally Posted by Shiroth

Wow, i can see that Mari will make one wonderful Mother in the future. Each episode she does something new to win me over --- i love seeing her in action, with a few blushes here and there. But damn it Hagino. Just from her facial expressions along makes her one hell of a interesting character --- not to mention outstanding and beautiful. From the bath scene, to her looking over a sleeping Mari. It's to much to handle sometimes. >_<

Mari's seyuu is really awesome. What an outstanding job she is doing here. The character is so fresh, spontaneous and full of vitality. She really grows and blossoms with each episode.
Hagino is so absolutely wonderful and classy. Honestly, she totally could have taken advantage of Mari and abused her emotionally at this point, she is so admirably decent that I want to cry.
And I love the way they're doing this. The only person who needed to see Hagino naked was Mari. And that's it, folks. We all loser fanboys and girls can only wish!
It was simply genius!

[Yazakura]

Has anyone managed to see any of these Blue Drop AMVS? They're absolutely hilarious. But for the non raw watcher who does mind spoilers, I'd advise against clicking on the second one..........

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDq8U...eature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wxHtYmXjPQ

[Kieli]

Originally Posted by Hakuryu_Hikaru

Mari's seyuu is really awesome. What an outstanding job she is doing here. The character is so fresh, spontaneous and full of vitality. She really grows and blossoms with each episode.

I second that. She's the new Shizuru without the Natsuki....or I could just be losing my mind

Hagino is so absolutely wonderful and classy. Honestly, she totally could have taken advantage of Mari and abused her emotionally at this point, she is so admirably decent that I want to cry. And I love the way they're doing this. The only person who needed to see Hagino naked was Mari. And that's it, folks. We all loser fanboys and girls can only wish!
It was simply genius!

The fact that it never even occurs to Hagino to take advantage of Mari is awesome. She's got age, maturity and experience over Mari and doesn't club her over the head with it. You know, it never even crossed my mind that Hagino didn't freak with Mari just barged in, with child in hand to plop her into the tub. That's our Mari....no sense of decorum at all LOL!

[Hakuryu_Hikaru]

Originally Posted by Kieli

You know, it never even crossed my mind that Hagino didn't freak with Mari just barged in, with child in hand to plop her into the tub. That's our Mari....no sense of decorum at all LOL!

Awwww... Mari is completely innocent and pure (hopefully she will eventually grow out of it, too )
Hagino got a bit shaky, actually, opening her lovely eyes widely... But afterwards, she didn't seem to mind Mari's bargening in... Then again, she is too classy to freak out. Remember when Mari was having a fit at the breakfast table? Hagino's answer?
You got a piece of rice in your cheek. Just gotta love her.

[Matrim]

The creators of this series really like to skip scenes and show them as flashbacks later, thus far this device has worked like a charm.
Tsubael was so cute in the end.
Hagino is so calm, it's very easy to believe she is an alien.

but I wonder what would happen if Ekaril and Mari where to get very close and Tsubael saw it, she's very loyal to Ekaril but at the same time she has strong feelings for her and jealously can be a dangerous thing.

I suspect this exact development will lead to the climax of the series.

[Diodati]

Originally Posted by Yazakura

Has anyone managed to see any of these Blue Drop AMVS? They're absolutely hilarious. But for the non raw watcher who does mind spoilers, I'd advise against clicking on the second one..........

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDq8U...eature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wxHtYmXjPQ

Yeah the second one is brilliant - with the hair bits! There is also this one, and the Chikane/Hagino/Mari moment at 00:56 is classic.

Originally Posted by Matrim

I suspect this exact development will lead to the climax of the series.

Well we've got to insert a psycho-lesbian somewhere into the show. I thought it might be Azanael, but who knows what path she'll go on. That said I could understand why Tsubael would feel betrayed - she's putting her life on the line for Hagino's 'cause'. And Hagino's cause is now secretly 'Mari'? Youch.



Okay my latest theory about 'the woman in episode 1'

Spoiler for episode 7:

I think the baby could be the woman at the beginning of episode 1.



Okayokay heh, physically they just about fit - as much as Mari does -, but more importantly:

This is the first ever baby/person to have been 'looked after' simultaneously by a human and an Arume - there is no greater depth of co-operation and trust than looking after a being which is purely innocent to wars/squabbles/power.

If we are looking for a symbol or a UN representative of peace and talks, then I think this baby/woman is the perfect candidate. Perhaps Hiroko/whomever told her about it as she got older - when Hagino is revealed to be an Arume. The time where she (the baby) was bathed and fed by this pair and slept peacefully between them. Maybe that's why the woman in episode 1 can somehow grasp onto some positivity - it's shows something 'good' about both sides, even with all the crap that's happening elsewhere.

I don't know if that idea seems a bit out of left field, but I think it could work.

EDIT: Hang, is the baby a boy or a girl??? I could have sworn it was a girl...

Actually the woman is probably going to be Mari - having rewatched episode 1, it certainly 'sounds' enough like her - and how long does the war last? The age seems to match up reasonably well too.

[Tenshii]

The future was shown in episode 1, so it's like a flashback?

[Futaba-chan]

Originally Posted by Kieli

She's the new Shizuru without the Natsuki

Is she the Shizuru, or is she the Natsuki?

[Guido]

A Small Eye

Once again Blue Drop amazes on how the story manages to handle two plots intertwined by a common denominator.

Spoiler:

After a careful reevaluation I make up that Mari actually saw in Yuko-sensei a motherly figure. If she had whatever reasons to invite her to the festival, I believe was for her to experience the event in a family bond together.

Mari felt betrayed because she was certain that Yuko-sensei only approached with candidness for the purpose to get more information about the Kami Ohka Island incident.
No doubt that during the course of five years between the tragedy and the start of the story Mari was plagued and interrogated non-stop by the mass media and state researcher, bugging her with questions.

The point is that Mari thought that Yuko-sensei was just using her to achieve her (Yuko) agenda and cared nothing about how lonely and broken she (Mari) felt for having thought she made a connection with Yuko.

The truth is that Yuko actually took her mission but more on the approach to protect Mari, because she was empathetic towards her student and knew well that a frail child like Mari needs guidance, love, and care after the loss that struck her (Mari).

Spoiler:

For the second part Hagino delivered her answer to Shivariel, and there's no turning back beyond that point.

Shivariel planned and set up that distraction to have the two ships engaging against the blue while she sent Azanael on a probe mission to capture Mari for the events that transpired on episode four.

Hagino barely realized in time what her officer was attempting to achieve and timely arrived before Azanael delivered the finishing blow on poor Yuko-sensei, which definitely would had broken Mari had Hagino came a few seconds later.

[Kazu-kun]

Originally Posted by Diodati

Okay my latest theory about 'the woman in episode 1'

Spoiler for episode 7:

I think the baby could be the woman at the beginning of episode 1.



Okayokay heh, physically they just about fit - as much as Mari does -, but more importantly:

This is the first ever baby/person to have been 'looked after' simultaneously by a human and an Arume - there is no greater depth of co-operation and trust than looking after a being which is purely innocent to wars/squabbles/power.

If we are looking for a symbol or a UN representative of peace and talks, then I think this baby/woman is the perfect candidate. Perhaps Hiroko/whomever told her about it as she got older - when Hagino is revealed to be an Arume. The time where she (the baby) was bathed and fed by this pair and slept peacefully between them. Maybe that's why the woman in episode 1 can somehow grasp onto some positivity - it's shows something 'good' about both sides, even with all the crap that's happening elsewhere.

I don't know if that idea seems a bit out of left field, but I think it could work.

Actually the woman is probably going to be Mari - having rewatched episode 1, it certainly 'sounds' enough like her - and how long does the war last? The age seems to match up reasonably well too.

In Japan the war lasts 9 years, but in the rest of the world it goes on for 20 more years. The conference takes place right after the war, 29 years after the anime series. Mari (or Micchi) would be 46 at that time.

[Hakuryu_Hikaru]

Originally Posted by Diodati

Well we've got to insert a psycho-lesbian somewhere into the show. I thought it might be Azanael, but who knows what path she'll go on. That said I could understand why Tsubael would feel betrayed - she's putting her life on the line for Hagino's 'cause'. And Hagino's cause is now secretly 'Mari'? Youch.




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Ok, it does make sense Tsubael as the psycho-lesbian. But, they were alone in that ship for five years and it doesn't look like a lot happened between the two of them. Why would it start happening, now?
Some people were trying to pair Yuko/Mari but apparently, it wasn't the case.
I think Tsubael and Hagino have a different kind of relationship other than romantic. I don't exclude the possibility of a crush or jealousy, but I wonder how intense they would be as to influence the outcome of events.
Tsubael deeply admires Hagino, but what I percieve is that Hagino has lots of deep admirers and maybe what's different about Mari is that she is not an yes woman. In any case, it's too early in the game to know exactly what is going on between Tsubael and Hagino. This show has a lot of different relationships, Akane and her father or Micchi and Mari and so on. Each of them as a particular nuance, not all of them are romantic.

[Tenshii]

In Japan the war lasts 9 years, but in the rest of the world it goes on for 20 more years. The conference takes place right after the war, 29 years after the anime series. Mari (or Micchi) would be 46 at that time.

That would make sense. ; If I recall I also saw a man next to the woman. Somehow I'm thinking Hagino isn't there anymore by that time.