To Aru Kagaku no Railgun S - General News/Discussion (NO SPOILERS)

[Primary Consult]

Originally Posted by ~Greed~

You mean "welcome to an incredibly loose adaption of a series called A Certain Scientific Railgun. Because from what I can see, just like the first season, they are filling half of the series with nothing but filler meant to pander to Moeblob loving Otaku's.
....
Below, your telling me to read the manga as some sort of reference. I've read the Railgun manga, The Index Manga, The Index Novels, The NT Novels, watched the Index anime, and watched the Majority of the Railgun anime, with the exception of the useless filler arcs.

The trailer shown did show several... very fast clips that were from Sisters arc. But it really doesn't matter - everyone already knows it will be about Sisters, the point is to 'tease' on what new material is coming.

On that note, Railgun is a series that does not have "useless filler". It is all blessed by Kamachi and therefore canon material. There were a few inconsequential oneshot character development episodes in Railgun 1 (ie: newbie antiskill agent, dorm mother) but none of the "arcs" can be called filler because they became canon (characters introduced in them are mentioned in later Index LNs). That is why I try to encourage calling it "anime original content", and why it isn't boring: you really don't know whether what you are watching is a sidestory that dead ends or something that can come up later in the main story.

[tsunade666]

Originally Posted by leukrota

That's an exaggeration, there were some episodes on the first Railgun anime with worse quality.

To me this is fine, and if they can keep it like this throughout the season then it's more than OK.

@C2F - You're right, we really freak out a lot.

Railgun anime is at least stable than Index anime. When its not climax arc for Index anime it turns............. bad. But for Railgun all episode are so far maintained in animation that I don't even notice how BAD it is

I will just watched railgun s for entertainment while waiting for NT 7. Though I will probably need pain killers for my headache

RailDex fans are pretty much diverse or categorized if you ask me.

hate railgun anime but like index anime
like railgun anime but hate index anime
like railgun and index
or just didn't care at all.

I'm in the category that didn't care at all because I already gave up on railgun anime

[Chaos2Frozen]

Yup, its impressive keeping the animation of slice of life episodes stable.

Thats pretty hardcore

[relentlessflame]

Originally Posted by ~Greed~

But it seems that the anime wants to pander to those who have only watched the anime, and not the manga fans who were hoping for a strict adaption of the manga.

It seems to me to be rather amazingly foolish to expect that the same staff of the first Railgun anime, which outsold the Index anime quite handily on Blu-Ray/DVD, would create a second season that disregards key elements of the first season that contributed it to its success. Why on earth would you or anyone else actually expect "a strict adaption [sic] of the manga" when you know full well what they did last time and, therefore, what would logically make sense for a continuation?

I'm not saying you have to like the direction they took, but it's completely senseless to act like it was realistic to expect something that would disregard their previous direction now. It's the very epitome of a self-fulfilling prophecy. There are limits to the value of outrage over things that are all-but-assured of not changing.


If anyone would like to volunteer for a six month ban/eviction so you'll be away from this forum for the entire duration of the Railgun anime, I'll take applications, but I'm not going to tolerate this sort of unreasonable anti-anime trolling from hardcore source loyalists when the show starts airing. Adjust your expectations now and be reasonable in your complaints.

[Marcus H.]

If anyone would like to volunteer for a six month ban/eviction so you'll be away from this forum for the entire duration of the Railgun anime, I'll take applications, but I'm not going to tolerate this sort of unreasonable anti-anime trolling from hardcore source loyalists when the show starts airing. Adjust your expectations now and be reasonable in your complaints.

Thank you, in behalf of the idort community of Index and Railgun, relentlessflame. Thank you.

We all have those supremacists talking trash on the other sides from /a/ and MAL, so it's best to have a more mature community that avoids nonsense like this.

[Miraluka]

Well, I also gave up on the anime thus giving below average expectations for it, maybe it will surprise me... as if.

Sigh... at this point I think is useless complaining about the direction of the anime, but hey I can kill the time while waiting for the next manga and novel release.

[Karna]

Originally Posted by Chaos2Frozen

Greed, Don't try to brush aside that you made an incredibly noob mistake of thinking the trailer was the OP.

The Trailer was 1 minute and 30 seconds long ( standard anime opening length), and the Railgun 2 opening song was playing in the backround. Hence why I wasn't sure if it was the opening or not.

[QUOTE=Primary Consult;4628857]The trailer shown did show several... very fast clips that were from Sisters arc. But it really doesn't matter - everyone already knows it will be about Sisters, the point is to 'tease' on what new material is coming.

On that note, Railgun is a series that does not have "useless filler". It is all blessed by Kamachi and therefore canon material. There were a few inconsequential oneshot character development episodes in Railgun 1 (ie: newbie antiskill agent, dorm mother) but none of the "arcs" can be called filler because they became canon (characters introduced in them are mentioned in later Index LNs). That is why I try to encourage calling it "anime original content", and why it isn't boring: you really don't know whether what you are watching is a sidestory that dead ends or something that can come up later in the main story.

Kongo's introduction kind of says otherwise.

I also don't have a problem with anime original content, not at all. But when it's episodes like that virtual reality beach episode in the first season, that's when I get a bit ticked.

That, and if you add those kinds of episodes to the sisters arc, it'll just be kind of jarring. I mean If ther was something like where in scene you'll have accelerator killing stuff, and mikoto going ballistic, and then a minute later you have Mikoto and pals going shopping? That's what I'm worried about. I mean that's weird more than anything.

Originally Posted by relentlessflame

It seems to me to be rather amazingly foolish to expect that the same staff of the first Railgun anime, which outsold the Index anime quite handily on Blu-Ray/DVD, would create a second season that disregards key elements of the first season that contributed it to its success. Why on earth would you or anyone else actually expect "a strict adaption [sic] of the manga" when you know full well what they did last time and, therefore, what would logically make sense for a continuation?

Well, moeblobs do sell quite well. I won't deny that. That said, the thing is, I didn't actually expect that they were going to completely disregard Mikoto and pals hanging out. However, doing so in the sisters arc of all things? I mean have you read the sisters arc? Honestly, I didn't have a problem with some of the fillers in the first season, like Mikoto vs Telestina, which was pretty cool. But the Beach episode, the Maid episodes, Those are the episodes I have a problem with. If they include those types of scenes, it should be after the sisters arc, like with the first season. The level Upper Arc was fine, as was the Telestina Arc. Everything else sucked though.

I'm not saying you have to like the direction they took, but it's completely senseless to act like it was realistic to expect something that would disregard their previous direction now. It's the very epitome of a self-fulfilling prophecy. There are limits to the value of outrage over things that are all-but-assured of not changing.

Already said that I didn't expect the season to be completely filler free. But if one arc should be left untouched, it should be after the sisters arc.

If anyone would like to volunteer for a six month ban/eviction so you'll be away from this forum for the entire duration of the Railgun anime, I'll take applications, but I'm not going to tolerate this sort of unreasonable anti-anime trolling from hardcore source loyalists when the show starts airing. Adjust your expectations now and be reasonable in your complaints.

Pretty sure that showing your genuine displeasure of the direction an anime is taking is not trolling. I'm a Global Moderator/Super Moderator on another forum, and banning for that would be seen as a bit harsh in my eyes. I can understand if someone was saying something like hurr hurr this show sucks, but I did actually think my post through and gave detailed reasons as to why I don't like the direction that this is going in.

[Chaos2Frozen]

Greed, unless this was your first ever Anime, there's no way anyone could mistaken the way the video was presented as an OP.

Not to mention those were almost the exact same clips from earlier teasers.

Plus you making a big fuss about scenes that are most likely just the first episode, before the start of the sisters arc, hence invalidating your complaint, further enforces our reputation as the most easily freaked out fandom currently.

[leukrota]

@Greed - You still don't know how the arc is going to be presented.

I don't recall where it was, but someone posted the first 3-4 episodes titles, and going by those, it doesn't seem like they'll stray too much. The anime original content will be there, but I doubt the main arc will be butchered as you fear/expect.

[mark1246]

Originally Posted by relentlessflame

It seems to me to be rather amazingly foolish to expect that the same staff of the first Railgun anime, which outsold the Index anime quite handily on Blu-Ray/DVD, would create a second season that disregards key elements of the first season that contributed it to its success. Why on earth would you or anyone else actually expect "a strict adaption [sic] of the manga" when you know full well what they did last time and, therefore, what would logically make sense for a continuation?

Because probably this is for the people who DON'T READ THE MANGA, OR LIGHT NOVEL, OR SEEN THE MAIN SHOW! you got to count all possibilities you know.

[leukrota]

Originally Posted by mark1246

Because probably this is for the people who DON'T READ THE MANGA, OR LIGHT NOVEL, OR SEEN THE MAIN SHOW! you got to count all possibilities you know.

Sarcasm?

[relentlessflame]

Originally Posted by Wilfriback

but hey I can kill the time while waiting for the next manga and novel release.

Please don't use this or any other thread just to "kill the time" if it means repetitive comments about your lack of expectations for the show in question. If you care so little, you don't need to post.

Originally Posted by ~Greed~

That, and if you add those kinds of episodes to the sisters arc, it'll just be kind of jarring. I mean If ther was something like where in scene you'll have accelerator killing stuff, and mikoto going ballistic, and then a minute later you have Mikoto and pals going shopping? That's what I'm worried about. I mean that's weird more than anything.

...Really...? Are you serious...? Even in the first season, they managed to maintain the tension in important and dramatic scenes, while also having the other characters contributing to the story in meaningful ways. If you seriously think they're going to juxtapose violence and killing with "shopping" without any sort of transition or flow, that's just completely illogical, and not at all a reflection of anything that happened in the first season of the anime.

Originally Posted by ~Greed~

... Everything else sucked though.

I thought you said earlier:

Originally Posted by ~Greed~

and watched the Majority of the Railgun anime, with the exception of the useless filler arcs.

So you didn't even watch it, but you rushed to the conclusion that it sucked just because it you decided that it was "filler"? Did you think, by chance, those "useless filler arcs" were just about "shopping" too?

Originally Posted by ~Greed~

Pretty sure that showing your genuine displeasure of the direction an anime is taking is not trolling. I'm a Global Moderator/Super Moderator on another forum, and banning for that would be seen as a bit harsh in my eyes. I can understand if someone was saying something like hurr hurr this show sucks, but I did actually think my post through and gave detailed reasons as to why I don't like the direction that this is going in.

This is why I didn't ban you for that post, obviously. What I'm saying is that you need to use common sense to have reasonable expectations about what the anime is actually likely to do. It's not reasonable to think that the anime's second season is going to throw out key elements of the first season, because those are elements that made it popular. Of course, they also indicated very clearly, multiple times, that they are going to be covering a certain arc from the manga. I do understand the apprehension -- really I do -- but the absurdity of the hyperbole and scaremongering about just how much the "slice of life" threatens to "ruin" everything is borderline insane and contributes absolutely nothing to constructive, meaningful conversation about the work in question. If your "genuine displeasure" is based on completely unreasonable folly, it's no better than "hurr hurr this show sucks". It just means you use bigger words. I'm not necessarily accusing you of that, but I'd like to be more clearly proven wrong. The extent of your hyperbole does your "cause" no favours.

Originally Posted by mark1246

Because probably this is for the people who DON'T READ THE MANGA, OR LIGHT NOVEL, OR SEEN THE MAIN SHOW! you got to count all possibilities you know.

...It can also be for people who think the novels are fine, the manga is fine, the main Index anime is fine, and so is the Railgun anime. They don't have to all be delivered in the exact same manner or cover the exact same material in the exact same way to be good in their own -- maybe different -- ways.

I know there are absolutely a group of people who love the manga and source material to pieces and just want the anime to do it justice. I've been in that same boat many times. But what you also have are overly-dogmatic purists who think the anime's deviations dilute the purity and wonder of the original source material, and so complain as loudly as possible at every conceivable opportunity ad nauseum about things that are self-evident at this point and will not change. And what I'm saying to those people is, quite clearly: get lost.

[Marina2]

Let's wait for OP. It will tell what is J.C. planning to do.

[Karna]

Originally Posted by Marina2

Let's wait for Opening scene. It will tell what is J.C. planning to do.

Good idea. I'll drop it for now, at least until we get to see the opening. Preferably until the first episode though.

@relentlessflame - I'm dropping this conversation, at least until the first episode or opening has aired.

[Sumeragi]

About the PV: It's just a clear version of this:

Originally Posted by Sumeragi

YouTube

https://youtu.be/Pynxus3Uiv0

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[Miraluka]

Originally Posted by relentlessflame

Please don't use this or any other thread just to "kill the time" if it means repetitive comments about your lack of expectations for the show in question. If you care so little, you don't need to post.

It seems you didn't understand so I'll redo my statement.

but hey I can kill the time watching the anime while waiting for the next manga and novel release.

Sounds better now for you?

[FiveOVER]

First episode's not out yet and so many complains already? Wow. Just because you don't like some parts of the show doesn't mean it would spoil the show for you.... Anyways, we should be grateful that railgun gets a second season and that we can watch anime at all.

Even if they are not following 100% to the source material, I'm sure it will be a blast for me.

[Chaos2Frozen]

Originally Posted by FiveOVER

First episode's not out yet and so many complains already? Wow. Just because you don't like some parts of the show doesn't mean it would spoil the show for you.... Anyways, we should be grateful that railgun gets a second season and that we can watch anime at all.

Even if they are not following 100% to the source material, I'm sure it will be a blast for me.

Lol you kidding? This is how we roll

Even before there was an announcement people were already convinced that they would skip the sister's arc.

Overreacting is what we do best!

[elior]

Originally Posted by Chaos2Frozen

Lol you kidding? This is how we roll

Even before there was an announcement people were already convinced that they would skip the sister's arc.

Overreacting is what we do best!

what i suprise is they will do the libary scence from the manga which happen after the sisters arc

[zaeraal]

Originally Posted by elior

what i suprise is they will do the libary scence from the manga which happen after the sisters arc

The anime and manga's time of Kongo's appearance does not match.
(she appeared in manga after her anime debut)
So it would not make sense to put her after sister arc, instead, they used it to reintroduce characters on the first episode.


Anyway, here are some more promotional posters for Railgun S:

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Oh damn, just two more days (and few hours), ah I can't wait..
I hope they used the buget from movie and it will be awesome.