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Erroll · 2006-04-09, 14:21

I didn't really like the first volume of the manga either but decided to give volume 2 a try because I like HanaKimi so much. Boy am I glad I did. I think the manga really hits it's stride in volume 2 when the twins strut their stuff.

Anyway, there's one reaction to this anime that's really confused me. The impression that it's some big parody poking fun at fangirls and their behavior. I didn't get this impression from Ouran at all.

I thought it was more of the same social commentary that all the rest of the humor of the show springs from. Mainly, that these rich guys have created this wacky host club because they have no idea what a real host club is like. Just like they have no concept of instant coffee. Of course, the rich girls eat it up because it's cute guys serving them. I don't see how the girls' reactions are any different from fanboys reactions to the myriad of harem anime series that cater to every fanboy fetish ever known to human kind.

Nobody points at a harem show and goes "Look, it's making fun of fanboys because it offers every different type of girl a guy would be interested in." The fact that the host club is so blantant about naming the different types again just seem to demonstrate Tamaki's naivety about the whole thing. If it's making fun of anything, it seems to be making fun of rich people and their behaviors. The whole rich vs poor conflict is the central theme of the story.

Spoiler:

But hey, if guys will watch Ouran cause they think they can pick fun at fangirls more power to 'em. More viewers for the show is not a bad thing and they'll get taste of the hilarity that fangirls experience everytime a new fanboy harem anime comes out.

riznar · 2006-04-09, 14:38

I think the parody aspect comes from the rich girls all melting for the harem boys. For me at least, their reactions are priceless. The social commentary about wealthy society is there and funny, but that's not all there is to it.

I considered Love Hina a parody for a long time before I saw the rest of Ken Akamatsu's work and was like "Wait, he really is into this..." I still think it is in a sense, but it is more like it doesn't take itself seriously, which becomes a strength.

If the first episode is any judge (and it usually isn't, but it's all we have), this doesn't take itself seriously either and is very self mocking. From the little beeping arrow that points at the plot device vase, to the banners showing everyone's title, to Haruhi's by-the-numbers retelling of her tragic past, this show screams parody.

In short, I think it is poking fun at the disjoined view of reality that both the wealthy and fan(girls/boys) have.

Guardian Enzo · 2006-04-09, 15:14

I tend to agree - while there is an "inside" theme of fangirls and their obsessions, I think the heart of the satire is the rich vs. poor theme, and how isolated the wealthy are from reality.

Itachikun · 2006-04-09, 16:44

o_O After watching the OP I was worried it was Yaoi, so I gave it a chance, cause its Bones...

THANK GOD for the ending. I liked this show and hope this will be successful.

Lol @ Hescafe.

Spoiler:

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NO2 VAPORIZER

Sailor Enlil · 2006-04-09, 17:07

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Originally Posted by Itachikun

o_O After watching the OP I was worried it was Yaoi, so I gave it a chance, cause its Bones...

THANK GOD for the ending. I liked this show and hope this will be successful.

Lol @ Hescafe.

Spoiler:

Hehe and speaking of lightbulbs, check the brand - Mational.

But what takes the cake is what's written on the top of Haruhi's ID card:

Spoiler:

Burner of Anime · 2006-04-09, 20:44

Shades of Victor, Victoria here

A woman playing a man playing a woman.

Sakamoto Mayaa is not as good as the Captain but she nailed Haruhi in the internal monologues. Think of it as a running commentary for someone stepping into an alien world: a tomboy into a realm of rich bishi's with a lot of free time

Qbi Sannin · 2006-04-09, 20:44

Did ANYONE else here get the Shizuru vibe from the girl who threw haru's backpack out? For an odd minute or two she reminded me of Shizuru Viola from Mai Otome.

Vallen Chaos Valiant · 2006-04-09, 20:48

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Originally Posted by Qbi Sannin

Did ANYONE else here get the Shizuru vibe from the girl who threw haru's backpack out? For an odd minute or two she reminded me of Shizuru Viola from Mai Otome.

Nope. Shizuru is less pretentious.

I am more inclined to link her to Flay from Gundam Seed.

wao · 2006-04-09, 21:02

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Originally Posted by Vallen Chaos Valiant

Nope. Shizuru is less pretentious.

I am more inclined to link her to Flay from Gundam Seed.

ZOMG! You're not hte only one! You know that scene where Haruhi says "jealousy" and there's a shot of the girl frozen and we see one of her eyes open? The very first thing that came to my mind was "Fllay".

Same kind of reaction, same kind of bitchiness, AND the same hair colour!! Even eye colour?!

MrProphet · 2006-04-09, 21:23

Ayanokouji's dress is similar too. 8)

Qbi Sannin · 2006-04-09, 21:48

Ahh..I dont watch Gundam so I'd have limited sources to compare from.

wao · 2006-04-09, 23:08

One serving of Fllay Allster... Coming right up.

What the - so they do have the same eye colour... @_@

ztella · 2006-04-10, 00:17

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Originally Posted by Qbi Sannin

Ahh..I dont watch Gundam so I'd have limited sources to compare from.

In the first few episodes of GS she firmly establishes herself as one of the biggest cry baby/beatch ever.

I'm hoping that Ayanokoji doesn't make many more appearances because of this. (Of course she will though...)

molitar · 2006-04-10, 01:18

This was just too damn funny.. The blatant arrows! The yaoi (and I usually won't have anything to do with Yaoi and the only other one I Have watched with it in it is Gravitation) but it was humorously done, each member representing a different type of stereotype, the mistaken gender, the lightbulbs as realization happened, and how the ones that realized never told the others! It was just too damn hilarious and can't wait to see more of this one.

Itachikun · 2006-04-10, 02:30

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Originally Posted by Vallen Chaos Valiant

Nope. Shizuru is less pretentious.

I am more inclined to link her to Flay from Gundam Seed.

YES YES!!!!! Thats it...
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Herbal vaporizers

igalsfy · 2006-04-10, 03:06

the first episoed of this anime was fun. i wonder where the story plot will go (if they really put one) but so far, it's fun, well-drawn and the characters, even if they're somewhat stereotyped, are interesting.

Burner of Anime · 2006-04-10, 03:17

The Host club stereotype?

Haruhi is everything a girl would ever want in a gay best friend. The sort of safe male relationship where you can tell them all the embarressing things and not have used on you afterwards. They are also not afraid to tell it in the face whatever they are doing is wrong. Add in the sob story and you not only get Kawaii, you also have kawai-sou.

Too bad about the gender part

tritoch · 2006-04-10, 03:38

I am hooked!!

Kinda reminds me of Gokujou Seitokai with a love story. =)

Haruhi is soooooooooooooo adorable male or female..

Im looking forward for this show and no.. plot doesnt need to be special as long as Haruhi and whoever gets paired with her is given screen time.

friendshipz · 2006-04-10, 10:06

first glance at the manga in comics shop, i presume it as a manga that show guys pleasing girl(host club manga..) don prefer to read this kind of manga.

lucky i downloaded the anime..because i do like anime that girls disguise themself as a guy or they have the appearance that have the feature of a charming guy

after watching this anime..i went back to the comics shop and went ahead to get 7 vol..

its hilarious and comedic for the character development , they changed some plots from the anime so as to make it more entertaining ^^

especially those bulb, i rewatched the anime once more than i came to realise that what was that all about XD...(how slow can i be..)

overall- great anime =D

Mangaka-chan · 2006-04-10, 11:50

Very interesting anime adoptation, better than the manga IMO

2006-04-09, 14:21	Link #61
Erroll Member Join Date: May 2004	I didn't really like the first volume of the manga either but decided to give volume 2 a try because I like HanaKimi so much. Boy am I glad I did. I think the manga really hits it's stride in volume 2 when the twins strut their stuff. Anyway, there's one reaction to this anime that's really confused me. The impression that it's some big parody poking fun at fangirls and their behavior. I didn't get this impression from Ouran at all. I thought it was more of the same social commentary that all the rest of the humor of the show springs from. Mainly, that these rich guys have created this wacky host club because they have no idea what a real host club is like. Just like they have no concept of instant coffee. Of course, the rich girls eat it up because it's cute guys serving them. I don't see how the girls' reactions are any different from fanboys reactions to the myriad of harem anime series that cater to every fanboy fetish ever known to human kind. Nobody points at a harem show and goes "Look, it's making fun of fanboys because it offers every different type of girl a guy would be interested in." The fact that the host club is so blantant about naming the different types again just seem to demonstrate Tamaki's naivety about the whole thing. If it's making fun of anything, it seems to be making fun of rich people and their behaviors. The whole rich vs poor conflict is the central theme of the story. Spoiler: There's a character that will be introduced later who is an obvious a poke at fangirls because she's a rabid fan of dating sims and doujinshi and she's desperate to catch some guy on guy action. But hey, if guys will watch Ouran cause they think they can pick fun at fangirls more power to 'em. More viewers for the show is not a bad thing and they'll get taste of the hilarity that fangirls experience everytime a new fanboy harem anime comes out.

2006-04-09, 16:44	Link #64
Itachikun Animesuki's Janitor Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Somewhere in Shigeru Miyamoto's head Age: 37	o_O After watching the OP I was worried it was Yaoi, so I gave it a chance, cause its Bones... THANK GOD for the ending. I liked this show and hope this will be successful. Lol @ Hescafe. Spoiler: I just realized something, the thing with the light bulbs. It's who figured out that Hirahi was a girl in the first place.. ________ NO2 VAPORIZER Last edited by Itachikun; 2011-02-15 at 08:14.

2006-04-09, 23:08	Link #72
wao OK. Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: The Fields of High Attus Age: 34	One serving of Fllay Allster... Coming right up. What the - so they do have the same eye colour... @_@ __________________ Thanks for the fish

2006-04-09, 14:38	Link #62
riznar Save the Lesbians! Join Date: Feb 2006 Age: 42	I think the parody aspect comes from the rich girls all melting for the harem boys. For me at least, their reactions are priceless. The social commentary about wealthy society is there and funny, but that's not all there is to it. I considered Love Hina a parody for a long time before I saw the rest of Ken Akamatsu's work and was like "Wait, he really is into this..." I still think it is in a sense, but it is more like it doesn't take itself seriously, which becomes a strength. If the first episode is any judge (and it usually isn't, but it's all we have), this doesn't take itself seriously either and is very self mocking. From the little beeping arrow that points at the plot device vase, to the banners showing everyone's title, to Haruhi's by-the-numbers retelling of her tragic past, this show screams parody. In short, I think it is poking fun at the disjoined view of reality that both the wealthy and fan(girls/boys) have.

2006-04-09, 15:14	Link #63
Guardian Enzo Seishu's Ace Author Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Kobe, Japan	I tend to agree - while there is an "inside" theme of fangirls and their obsessions, I think the heart of the satire is the rich vs. poor theme, and how isolated the wealthy are from reality.

2006-04-09, 20:44	Link #66
Burner of Anime Illegal Additives Join Date: Jun 2004	Shades of Victor, Victoria here A woman playing a man playing a woman. Sakamoto Mayaa is not as good as the Captain but she nailed Haruhi in the internal monologues. Think of it as a running commentary for someone stepping into an alien world: a tomboy into a realm of rich bishi's with a lot of free time

2006-04-09, 20:44	Link #67
Qbi Sannin Member Join Date: Dec 2005	Did ANYONE else here get the Shizuru vibe from the girl who threw haru's backpack out? For an odd minute or two she reminded me of Shizuru Viola from Mai Otome.

2006-04-09, 21:23	Link #70
MrProphet The Commissar Vanishes Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Tallinn, Estonia Age: 41	Ayanokouji's dress is similar too. 8)

2006-04-09, 21:48	Link #71
Qbi Sannin Member Join Date: Dec 2005	Ahh..I dont watch Gundam so I'd have limited sources to compare from.

2006-04-10, 01:18	Link #74
molitar Senior Member Join Date: May 2004	This was just too damn funny.. The blatant arrows! The yaoi (and I usually won't have anything to do with Yaoi and the only other one I Have watched with it in it is Gravitation) but it was humorously done, each member representing a different type of stereotype, the mistaken gender, the lightbulbs as realization happened, and how the ones that realized never told the others! It was just too damn hilarious and can't wait to see more of this one.

2006-04-10, 03:06	Link #76
igalsfy Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2006	the first episoed of this anime was fun. i wonder where the story plot will go (if they really put one) but so far, it's fun, well-drawn and the characters, even if they're somewhat stereotyped, are interesting.

2006-04-10, 03:17	Link #77
Burner of Anime Illegal Additives Join Date: Jun 2004	The Host club stereotype? Haruhi is everything a girl would ever want in a gay best friend. The sort of safe male relationship where you can tell them all the embarressing things and not have used on you afterwards. They are also not afraid to tell it in the face whatever they are doing is wrong. Add in the sob story and you not only get Kawaii, you also have kawai-sou. Too bad about the gender part

2006-04-10, 03:38	Link #78
tritoch 神 Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Chi-town	I am hooked!! Kinda reminds me of Gokujou Seitokai with a love story. =) Haruhi is soooooooooooooo adorable male or female.. Im looking forward for this show and no.. plot doesnt need to be special as long as Haruhi and whoever gets paired with her is given screen time.

2006-04-10, 10:06	Link #79
friendshipz lilian gakuen Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: aoi sora Age: 19	first glance at the manga in comics shop, i presume it as a manga that show guys pleasing girl(host club manga..) don prefer to read this kind of manga. lucky i downloaded the anime..because i do like anime that girls disguise themself as a guy or they have the appearance that have the feature of a charming guy after watching this anime..i went back to the comics shop and went ahead to get 7 vol.. its hilarious and comedic for the character development , they changed some plots from the anime so as to make it more entertaining ^^ especially those bulb, i rewatched the anime once more than i came to realise that what was that all about XD...(how slow can i be..) overall- great anime =D

2006-04-10, 11:50	Link #80
Mangaka-chan Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: California	Very interesting anime adoptation, better than the manga IMO