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Thewanderer · 2006-03-14, 16:18

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Originally Posted by Zero Shinohara

Ah, got it. I've been to 4chan only a couple times, though you find the web's funniests in there =p

Edit: Woot, post #900!
Newcomer's luck, I guess?

In Soviet Russia, THREAD POSTS YOU!!!

Anyway, if season3 does happen, do anyone of you think that Rozen will make more dolls now that he's "back"?

(((Edit: yay, page 46!)))

Jekyll · 2006-03-14, 18:34

Those Soviet Russia jokes are actually older than 4chan.

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Anyway, if season3 does happen, do anyone of you think that Rozen will make more dolls now that he's "back"?

I don't think that he's really "back". He just had to intervene to keep the Alice Game going. Creating new dolls would kinda complicate the whole thing, which he probably would not want.

Zero Shinohara · 2006-03-14, 18:42

Look, in my opinion, Rozen's been dead for a LONG while now.
If you make do the math, Suigin Tou's "565000-or-so" hours since her last meeting with Shinku sum up to over 65 years. Even if Rozen made them in his 20's, he'd be an old geezer by now. And considering that they say it's very rare for even two of the Rozen Maidens to be awake, i'd say they were made back in the 1800's, IF that late.
However, he does appear in the series, somehow and we were left without a clue of how someone could live that enormous ammount of time, BUT, it's also said that he takes on different forms in his search for Alice... but I wonder if that's really true.
ME thinks that Rozen has decided to leave his eartly body and "wander" around the N-Fields. We've got some clues that each of those fields is inside the head of someone, his "Own World" (Gin's, Hina's, Jun's... ), but I can't explain the ones that appear in Traumend, because they're quite bizarre. Anyway, that's my best guess for how Rozen's still around.

But going back to your question... if he made more dolls and if they were to take the least bit of importance in the role of the story, then we'd be over four seasons, because you can't pack that much information in 12 episode anime. And considering that there're only 6 volumes out there, each anime series would take 2, 2.5 volumes? Oh well.

Ah, and speaking of the manga, don't know how many of you live in the US, but Tokyopop has announced the publishing of Rozen Maiden in their website.
http://www.tokyopop.com/dbpage.php?p...productid=3674 to check more about it. I'm not a very fan of the non-fanmade translations because they tend to change a few texts from the original series.(Example, DearS's teacher Mizuka, which was changed from an English to a Spanish teacher in the manga.)

Edit:
Finished up that drawing and posted a bigger version of it.
http://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?t=29863

Potatochobit · 2006-03-14, 20:54

well if the apprentice is around im sure rozen may be. but it could also just be the caring part of his spirit that still exists and has combined with all the fields too.

Zero Shinohara · 2006-03-14, 22:14

Yeah I was intrigued by Enju aswell. He doesn't look that old either. However if you consider, they look exacly alike, like if they were father and son. I hope they do explain this in later episodes/chapters, so we can get an understanding of the things, without the "miracles" mentioned before.

grey_moon · 2006-03-15, 03:01

Maybe someone who can give life to dolls is not affected by time in the same way as the rest of us....

physics223 · 2006-03-15, 04:56

I wish I could have found some other avatar than the Bleach avatar, but I don't have good stock photos of Suigintou or any Adobe Photoshop (which I don't want to have also because of its heaviness) ... so I chose this cleaned image I got from a semi-random Google Image Search. It's not Rozen Maiden, but it's a violet ring of something ... (lightning?)

Guys, give me some good avatar material ... I prefer Gin ... please ...

TamaNeko · 2006-03-15, 05:46

You're gonna have to be more specific on what kind of Gin avatar you want, since there are thousands of RM fanarts out there(search Wakachan). Do you want evil Junk, cute Junk, or what?

grey_moon · 2006-03-15, 07:29

We could hold a competition to see who can provide the image or gif that physics223 likes

Ichy · 2006-03-15, 08:59

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Originally Posted by physics223

I wish I could have found some other avatar than the Bleach avatar, but I don't have good stock photos of Suigintou or any Adobe Photoshop (which I don't want to have also because of its heaviness) ... so I chose this cleaned image I got from a semi-random Google Image Search. It's not Rozen Maiden, but it's a violet ring of something ... (lightning?)

Guys, give me some good avatar material ... I prefer Gin ... please ...

You need material for somehing like that?

grey_moon · 2006-03-15, 10:58

Tooooo cute....

Zero Shinohara · 2006-03-15, 11:02

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Tooooo cute....

Agreed :rolls:

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Maybe someone who can give life to dolls is not affected by time in the same way as the rest of us....

Well I recall now that Shinku said a line in the end of Traumend that goes something like:
"Father is constantly changing bodies until he finds Alice...".
ZOMG HE'S HOHENHEIM

blitz1/2 · 2006-03-15, 11:23

I don't recall that phrase.

In season 3 I want to see p'wnage from Kirakishou!

grey_moon · 2006-03-15, 12:14

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Originally Posted by blitz1/2

I don't recall that phrase.

In season 3 I want to see p'wnage from Kirakishou!

Hee hee the sound of p'wnage read out loud sounds pervy..

Zero Shinohara · 2006-03-15, 14:27

Lol, I can't imagine anything perverted with those chars, and I think it's an unique feature of Rozen Maiden :P

If season 3 comes up, I bet Kira will be madness. I wonder if I even WANT to see that.

physics223 · 2006-03-15, 14:57

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Originally Posted by Ichy

You need material for somehing like that?

But that's like stealing other people's avatars, right? I personally saw the second one being used by Rosa Mystica ...

Ichy · 2006-03-15, 15:16

Oh, Rosa Mystica had the same Idea...

But Rosa`s Ava is a little bit different

But it's better to ask him before...

physics223 · 2006-03-15, 15:26

I found a new ava of seriously cute Suigintou! Is this alright? Rate me! Rate me!

I personally think this as an avatar rocks.

blitz1/2 · 2006-03-15, 16:16

It's good, although I've seen it before.

Zero Shinohara · 2006-03-15, 17:42

I wish I could post that 4chan flood image here :laugh:

By the way, I wanted to check something up.

I'm not sure if you've discussed this before, but if you did I unfortunately wasn't around to see, so pardon me.
One thing I've wondering is "what" is Alice. We've been told she's a perfect girl, and that the RMs were created in order to emulate her. However, throughout the series we see that each of the dolls has a different personality or something that resembles a part of what a "perfect" female would be. For example, Sousei Seki's tranquility, Suigin Tou's determination, Suisei Seki's protectiveness. I've seen this before, but I can't recall where, but it didn't state all of them.

In my opinion, Hina represents innocence, Shinku represents both the sense of familiar love and a level of finesse (You can guess by the way she acts, moves and even drinks tea. ). Those and Kanaria's talent (She plays violin) are the most obvious traits to me.

So, watcha' think?

2006-03-14, 18:42	Link #903
Zero Shinohara I'll keep walking. Artist Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: This is FLORIDAAAAAAaaa Age: 37	Look, in my opinion, Rozen's been dead for a LONG while now. If you make do the math, Suigin Tou's "565000-or-so" hours since her last meeting with Shinku sum up to over 65 years. Even if Rozen made them in his 20's, he'd be an old geezer by now. And considering that they say it's very rare for even two of the Rozen Maidens to be awake, i'd say they were made back in the 1800's, IF that late. However, he does appear in the series, somehow and we were left without a clue of how someone could live that enormous ammount of time, BUT, it's also said that he takes on different forms in his search for Alice... but I wonder if that's really true. ME thinks that Rozen has decided to leave his eartly body and "wander" around the N-Fields. We've got some clues that each of those fields is inside the head of someone, his "Own World" (Gin's, Hina's, Jun's... ), but I can't explain the ones that appear in Traumend, because they're quite bizarre. Anyway, that's my best guess for how Rozen's still around. But going back to your question... if he made more dolls and if they were to take the least bit of importance in the role of the story, then we'd be over four seasons, because you can't pack that much information in 12 episode anime. And considering that there're only 6 volumes out there, each anime series would take 2, 2.5 volumes? Oh well. Ah, and speaking of the manga, don't know how many of you live in the US, but Tokyopop has announced the publishing of Rozen Maiden in their website. http://www.tokyopop.com/dbpage.php?p...productid=3674 to check more about it. I'm not a very fan of the non-fanmade translations because they tend to change a few texts from the original series.(Example, DearS's teacher Mizuka, which was changed from an English to a Spanish teacher in the manga.) Edit: Finished up that drawing and posted a bigger version of it. http://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?t=29863 __________________ Sometimes I look back and think to myself, "how the hell did I manage to screw this up?" Last edited by Zero Shinohara; 2006-03-14 at 20:31.

2006-03-14, 22:14	Link #905
Zero Shinohara I'll keep walking. Artist Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: This is FLORIDAAAAAAaaa Age: 37	Yeah I was intrigued by Enju aswell. He doesn't look that old either. However if you consider, they look exacly alike, like if they were father and son. I hope they do explain this in later episodes/chapters, so we can get an understanding of the things, without the "miracles" mentioned before. __________________ Sometimes I look back and think to myself, "how the hell did I manage to screw this up?"

2006-03-15, 04:56	Link #907
physics223 In the Tatami Galaxy ↓ Join Date: Feb 2006	I wish I could have found some other avatar than the Bleach avatar, but I don't have good stock photos of Suigintou or any Adobe Photoshop (which I don't want to have also because of its heaviness) ... so I chose this cleaned image I got from a semi-random Google Image Search. It's not Rozen Maiden, but it's a violet ring of something ... (lightning?) Guys, give me some good avatar material ... I prefer Gin ... please ... __________________ anime\|otaku - hypotheses, analyses, and musings on The Tatami Galaxy \|\| The REAL first handheld console with color!

2006-03-15, 14:27	Link #915
Zero Shinohara I'll keep walking. Artist Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: This is FLORIDAAAAAAaaa Age: 37	Lol, I can't imagine anything perverted with those chars, and I think it's an unique feature of Rozen Maiden :P If season 3 comes up, I bet Kira will be madness. I wonder if I even WANT to see that. __________________ Sometimes I look back and think to myself, "how the hell did I manage to screw this up?"

2006-03-15, 15:16	Link #917
Ichy It`s a miracle! Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: This is the Kind of Woman I want to play Games with. And by playing Games I mean.... ^____^ Age: 42	Oh, Rosa Mystica had the same Idea... But Rosa`s Ava is a little bit different But it's better to ask him before... __________________

2006-03-14, 20:54	Link #904
Potatochobit Certified Organic Join Date: Dec 2005	well if the apprentice is around im sure rozen may be. but it could also just be the caring part of his spirit that still exists and has combined with all the fields too.

2006-03-15, 03:01	Link #906
grey_moon Yummy, sweet and unyuu!!! Join Date: Dec 2004	Maybe someone who can give life to dolls is not affected by time in the same way as the rest of us....

2006-03-15, 05:46	Link #908
TamaNeko Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005	You're gonna have to be more specific on what kind of Gin avatar you want, since there are thousands of RM fanarts out there(search Wakachan). Do you want evil Junk, cute Junk, or what?

2006-03-15, 07:29	Link #909
grey_moon Yummy, sweet and unyuu!!! Join Date: Dec 2004	We could hold a competition to see who can provide the image or gif that physics223 likes

2006-03-15, 10:58	Link #911
grey_moon Yummy, sweet and unyuu!!! Join Date: Dec 2004	Tooooo cute....

2006-03-15, 11:23	Link #913
blitz1/2 Tenshi's Defense Squadron Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Fighting against those who oppress the system	I don't recall that phrase. In season 3 I want to see p'wnage from Kirakishou!

2006-03-15, 15:26	Link #918
physics223 In the Tatami Galaxy ↓ Join Date: Feb 2006	I found a new ava of seriously cute Suigintou! Is this alright? Rate me! Rate me! I personally think this as an avatar rocks. __________________ anime\|otaku - hypotheses, analyses, and musings on The Tatami Galaxy \|\| The REAL first handheld console with color!

2006-03-15, 16:16	Link #919
blitz1/2 Tenshi's Defense Squadron Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Fighting against those who oppress the system	It's good, although I've seen it before.

2006-03-15, 17:42	Link #920
Zero Shinohara I'll keep walking. Artist Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: This is FLORIDAAAAAAaaa Age: 37	I wish I could post that 4chan flood image here :laugh: By the way, I wanted to check something up. I'm not sure if you've discussed this before, but if you did I unfortunately wasn't around to see, so pardon me. One thing I've wondering is "what" is Alice. We've been told she's a perfect girl, and that the RMs were created in order to emulate her. However, throughout the series we see that each of the dolls has a different personality or something that resembles a part of what a "perfect" female would be. For example, Sousei Seki's tranquility, Suigin Tou's determination, Suisei Seki's protectiveness. I've seen this before, but I can't recall where, but it didn't state all of them. In my opinion, Hina represents innocence, Shinku represents both the sense of familiar love and a level of finesse (You can guess by the way she acts, moves and even drinks tea. ). Those and Kanaria's talent (She plays violin) are the most obvious traits to me. So, watcha' think? __________________ Sometimes I look back and think to myself, "how the hell did I manage to screw this up?"