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Old 2004-09-17, 01:51   Link #61
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Errr wait a minute didnt they say that Kakashi beat him like 49 times and Gai won 50 times its not like kakashi lost all of his fights Gai only beat him one more time than Kakashi beat him. at least from where ive read before.

Note: ive not even mentioned the sharnigan just pointing out a fact.
Keep in mind those weren't necessarily fights, just stupid crap like rock paper scissors, though I wouldn't rule out sparring matches being in there sometimes.
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Old 2004-09-17, 02:06   Link #62
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Sigh people you just don't get the point of this tread. This tread was made because Gai > Itachi, facts are Gai > kakashi. Kakashi lost to Itachi, but Gai is stronger and sharingan resistance + he has a cool aerodynamic green suit. So there's absolutly no _doubt_ that Gai > Itachi. Stop the discussion please, because

1. Itachi has not beaten kakashi 50 times
2. Itachi is not a taijutsu specialist like Gai.
3. Itachi doesn't have a brilliant student who beated Sasuke, another sharigan user.
4. Itachi is NOT green.
5. Itachi is not aerodynamic.


I think the above 5 mentiond points are without any doubt true. Please accept the following fact based on the above 5 facts. Gai > Itachi.
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Old 2004-09-17, 02:17   Link #63
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I thought this thread was just meant as a joke so that the Itachi fanboys would contradict themselves?
and for the love of god, just make a damn official Itachi thread so everyone would STFU ABOUT ITACHI IN EVERY DAMN THREAD!
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Old 2004-09-17, 05:51   Link #64
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Sigh people you just don't get the point of this tread. This tread was made because Gai > Itachi, facts are Gai > kakashi. Kakashi lost to Itachi, but Gai is stronger and sharingan resistance + he has a cool aerodynamic green suit. So there's absolutly no _doubt_ that Gai > Itachi. Stop the discussion please, because

1. Itachi has not beaten kakashi 50 times
2. Itachi is not a taijutsu specialist like Gai.
3. Itachi doesn't have a brilliant student who beated Sasuke, another sharigan user.
4. Itachi is NOT green.
5. Itachi is not aerodynamic.


I think the above 5 mentiond points are without any doubt true. Please accept the following fact based on the above 5 facts. Gai > Itachi.

dude, listen to yourself, that's just complete crap

1. doesn't mean that itachi can't beat kakashi 50 times, cuz he probably can -> MS
2. his (jutsu)speed is insanely fast (kakashi couldn't even see his movement, he stopped sasuke's chidori with one hand and fight with kurenai was very fast) and we don't know more about his taijutsu skills, probably pretty good, and who sais that taijutsu is superior to genjutsu or ninjutsu??
3. So what?? sasuke has the same speed as lee right now and could probably knock him down anytime, even Lee himself admits that he's afraid of Sasuke (gaara fight)
4. .... I'm not even gonna comment this
5. you really think that that pathetic suit gives him an advantage?? it just makes him look even more stupid
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Old 2004-09-17, 08:29   Link #65
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He is actually right using the same logic a lot of Itachi Fangirls/boys seem to use when saying Itachi is the best.

But because it's not Itachi people dismiss this false sense of logic. But oh I forgot. They take all statements made by characters that say Itachi is stronger as completely true while if there is something that says he is equal to or weaker than someone else they will disregard it and pick it apart.
lol he's not using any kind of logic at all and certainely not a so called 'Itachi fanboys logic'.
It's just a troll, it was worth nothing but closing at the beginning but at least it became a little funny while people posted to 'discuss' with him.

There is only 3 things which hint something about the real extent of Itachi's power :
-Oro said that Itachi's stronger than him.
-Itachi said that he might be able to kill Jiraiya (as a Sannin btw, he didn't seem to particulary know Jiraiya) but could die in the process.
-Itachi is supposed to have annihilated the whole Uchiha clan in a night.

And basically nothing else except some few very impressive jutsu.

From that I think the only possible deduction is that Itachi is more or less at the same level of power than the Sannin.

You can think it's a little more or a little less, neither are particulary illogical.

I barely ever see people saying that Itachi is some kind of invincible god, that's just a bullshit used by people who can't handle that one can think that Itachi is the strongest but don't want to waste their time or are just unable to explain why they think it's wrong.

Itachi is a very strong ninja, among the strongest of the show.
A god? certainely not, but a match for a Sannin yes without a doubt.
Now slightly better of slighty weaker is only up to Kishimoto.

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Ah, but you forget that villians are contractually obligated to reveal their plans to the heros. If it was up to Itachi, he wouldn't have said anything. While Itachi's agent did manage to negotiate so the reason he killed the uchiha clan would be revealed in a flashback, and then only to sasuke, unfortunatly he couldn't do anything about this part.
Sad but true
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Old 2004-09-17, 10:35   Link #66
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okay people that say "gai > all" are you like really retarded or are you all like high on something . The simple fact that Itachi ran away is because he doesnt seem interested in useless fights and come on gai i must admit he is strong but man there are some jutsus that can destroy gai so if everyone is saying that because lee beat sasuke, and if this applies to examples so your saying, that nejis Pops can completely own gai , i mean come on gai isnt that strong he just knows how to fight against sharingan thats all its not that hes stronger than kakashi or itachi. So please think a little or dont get high while answering threads
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Old 2004-09-17, 10:35   Link #67
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dude, listen to yourself, that's just complete crap

1. doesn't mean that itachi can't beat kakashi 50 times, cuz he probably can -> MS
2. his (jutsu)speed is insanely fast (kakashi couldn't even see his movement, he stopped sasuke's chidori with one hand and fight with kurenai was very fast) and we don't know more about his taijutsu skills, probably pretty good, and who sais that taijutsu is superior to genjutsu or ninjutsu??
3. So what?? sasuke has the same speed as lee right now and could probably knock him down anytime, even Lee himself admits that he's afraid of Sasuke (gaara fight)
4. .... I'm not even gonna comment this
5. you really think that that pathetic suit gives him an advantage?? it just makes him look even more stupid


1. Wait, you're implying he could, but he hasn't so fact > personal opinion
2. Kakashi could has stopped sasuke chidori as well, but that's only because kakashi has beaten Gai a few times, so he's an elite person as well. And kurenai is NOT a taijutsu specialist and she was able to block itachi his kick.
3.No, Sasuke is still inferior compared to Lee, Lee is able to move that fast without any real damage on his stamina, Sasuke can't. So he'll just keep doding until Sasuske is out of breath > ezi wins for the genious student of the Green beast of kononoha
4.You cannot beat the fact that Gai is green, and I mean look at it, Green is the colour of a leaf in the summer. Meaning his suit is not only COOL but also undetectable in the summer when he leaps from tree to tree like a real lumberjacker.
5.Yes that suit gives him an advantage, but that's only because Gai is cool and green, notice the GREEN part.
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Old 2004-09-17, 10:39   Link #68
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okay people that say "gai > all" are you like really retarded or are you all like high on something . The simple fact that Itachi ran away is because he doesnt seem interested in useless fights and come on gai i must admit he is strong but man there are some jutsus that can destroy gai so if everyone is saying that because lee beat sasuke, and if this applies to examples so your saying, that nejis Pops can completely own gai , i mean come on gai isnt that strong he just knows how to fight against sharingan thats all its not that hes stronger than kakashi or itachi. So please think a little or dont get high while answering threads

We'll never know if neji > lee, because Lee never fought Neji serious after he learned to lotus. So you're all guessing without any proof. And the current facts are Itachi ran away and said Gai shouldn't be underestimated. + Itachi said he could risk his life fighting Jiraiya, and after that Gai completly owned Jiraiya with a perfect dynamic entry. So gai > Jiraiya || Gai > Itachi. Perfect logic if you ask me
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Old 2004-09-17, 10:42   Link #69
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Question bleh

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We'll never know if neji > lee, because Lee never fought Neji serious after he learned to lotus. So you're all guessing without any proof. And the current facts are Itachi ran away and said Gai shouldn't be underestimated. + Itachi said he could risk his life fighting Jiraiya, and after that Gai completly owned Jiraiya with a perfect dynamic entry. So gai > Jiraiya || Gai > Itachi. Perfect logic if you ask me
~_~ Jiraiya was standing there talking to naruto and them bam, Gai just hits Jiraiya without seeing who was he whow he he owned tch are you like serious?
Jiraiya can completely own gai ~_~
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Old 2004-09-17, 10:56   Link #70
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~_~ Jiraiya was standing there talking to naruto and them bam, Gai just hits Jiraiya without seeing who was he whow he he owned tch are you like serious?
Jiraiya can completely own gai ~_~
The Fact is that Gai Aerodinanic suit make him a very dificult opponent to evade...thats why Jiraya did not have a change ..............also

"Dynamic Entry" is Master Forbiden Taijutsu almost equal to the "1000 Years of Pain" and only Konoha Elite can perform those moves...............that are on the 6th level of Jutsu A1 techniques..........
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Old 2004-09-17, 10:57   Link #71
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~_~ Jiraiya was standing there talking to naruto and them bam, Gai just hits Jiraiya without seeing who was he whow he he owned tch are you like serious?
Jiraiya can completely own gai ~_~

Jiraiya being the legendary sannin could not move because Gai was just too fast. And were is your proof that Jiraiya > gai??
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Old 2004-09-17, 11:07   Link #72
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how idiotic Gaifanboy.. Do you really think that Gai is so strong..? Gai is strong, but only avarage to Kakashi.
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Old 2004-09-17, 11:17   Link #73
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And kurenai is NOT a taijutsu specialist and she was able to block itachi his kick.
As a matter of fact, no she didn't.
She was unable to avoid the second blow and forced to block it but it was a faillure, she was blown away her blocking being broken and Itachi already behind her.

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3.No, Sasuke is still inferior compared to Lee, Lee is able to move that fast without any real damage on his stamina, Sasuke can't. So he'll just keep doding until Sasuske is out of breath > ezi wins for the genious student of the Green beast of kononoha
Lee can't maintain his high speed too long either, during his fight with Gaara, Lee started to look tired because of this kind of speed almost immediately, even before Gaara used the armor of Sand.
Exactly as Sasuke actually, both of them were out of breath just after their second blows on Gaara's face.
The high speed of Lee drains his stamina as much as for Sasuke, the only difference is their respective amount of stamina and if Lee has certainely a better stamina than Sasuke because he trains his body harder and since years, it doesn't seem to be that much a difference.

Now that Sasuke has the speed, the Taijutsu along with the Sharingan, Lee is now sadly completely outclassed but for the Gates.

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4.You cannot beat the fact that Gai is green, and I mean look at it, Green is the colour of a leaf in the summer. Meaning his suit is not only COOL but also undetectable in the summer when he leaps from tree to tree like a real lumberjacker.
Yeah... This fact can't be countered, Gai is Green, actually he even seems to be Super-Green and it's just unbeatable...

Even the Kyubi wishes he could have been Green not to be sealed during his fight with the 4th.




It's amazing how people still continue to think this thread is serious
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Old 2004-09-17, 11:21   Link #74
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Who said every body has to fight one on one? If Gai and Kakashi teamed up to take on Itachi and that shark guy; I would say Gai team would win.
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It's amazing how people still continue to think this thread is serious

lmao @ that size1 comment fact is you're actually replying to $rand statements and you are replying serious ;x I was just being a troll for the fun of it xD. People still need to learn about true trolls!!!one!!1!elven
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Indeed I am, knowing that you answer to a troll and answering seriously are two different matter
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Old 2004-09-17, 14:23   Link #77
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Wink well...

It did fool me
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Old 2004-09-17, 14:50   Link #78
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Keep in mind those weren't necessarily fights, just stupid crap like rock paper scissors, though I wouldn't rule out sparring matches being in there sometimes.
True True

People are taking it as if they SPARRED 50 times and Gai Won all of them which is not the case. like u stated.
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Old 2004-09-17, 14:50   Link #79
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It's amazing how people still continue to think this thread is serious
Kind of like the people who talk back to the U-Scan at supermarkets
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Old 2004-09-17, 15:21   Link #80
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okay, i think we all need to face the facts:

itachi sucks anyway.

only a little boy would have itachi as thier favorite character in an anime like NARUTO for chrissake.. an anime with a sprawling amount of detailed, unique, and awesome characters.

personally i don't have a favorite, but come on. itachi's so cookie cutter it's ridiculous. LOOK AT ME. I'M ALL DARK AND MYSTERIOUS. LOOK AT ME I DON'T SMILE. WOW I'M POWERFUL. WOW I HAVE THE PERSONALITY OF A ROCK THAT HASN'T BEEN TOUCHED IN 20 YEARS.

get over it, itachi fans. itachi sucks.
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