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Old 2003-11-24, 13:23   Link #1
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Red face Series that will NEVER be liscensed...

At least, not liscensed in North America anyway...



NaruTaru
Puchi Puri Yuushi
Kanon
Bottle Fairy
Noiseman Sound Insect
Boboboubo Boubobo



What are some series that you wouldn't expect to be liscensed ever in a million years?


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Old 2003-11-24, 13:52   Link #2
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Well hey, if they could license FLCL, why not BoBoBou (for short >_>)...

I saw one episode of the BoBoBou manga in my now ancient and dust-collecting Shounen Jump [Japanese - June], it looks really funny and it's all small and reminds me a little of Dennis the Menace (where they have all the little details).
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Old 2003-11-24, 13:54   Link #3
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At least, not liscensed in North America anyway...



NaruTaru
Puchi Puri Yuushi
Kanon
Noiseman Sound Insect
Boboboubo Boubobo



What are some series that you wouldn't expect to be liscensed ever in a million years?


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Who cares about N. America? Sophistication of animation showed in N. America cannot surpass Pokemon anyway. Disregarding N. America, Narutaru will be the first one to be licensed; it's just to great of a show to not to be. Kanon and Boboboubo Boubobo will be the other anime that will be licensed eventually. Infact, all anime has the potential of being licensed eventually in one region or another.
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Old 2003-11-24, 14:43   Link #4
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I believe that the NaruTaru manga is already licenced and is released as Shadow Star in the US by DarkHorse Comics. I dont know if the anime will make it over or not though.

Id be surprised to see Jungle wa Itsumo Hale nochi Guu licenced.
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Old 2003-11-24, 16:05   Link #5
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NaruTaru: Closest comparison would be with Alien 9, and that's licensed.
Puchi Puri Yuushi: It's Gainax and inoffensive, it's bound to be picked up eventually. Companies can stick "By Gainax, creators of Evangelion and FLCL" on it.
Kanon: Well, I don't think anything like that has quite come over before, but given its reputation on the fansub circuit and the fact that there's nothing terribly problematic about it, I'd be optimistic.
Bottle Fairy: If Azumanga Daioh and that sugar snow fairy thing can come over, so can Bottle Fairy.

Don't know the other two.

Jungle Wa thingy I'm sure will come over. It's pretty good, and lots of similar series are licensed.

It's really very difficult to come up with anything fansubbed that you can be confident in it never getting licensed. About the only thing I'd put in that category would be Ebichu.
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Old 2003-11-24, 16:37   Link #6
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content has little to do with whether a show is licensed or not, it has to do with relative popularity
i can definately say that any anime that springs to mind immediately will prolly end up being licensed, because they're popular
companies like ADV (ok ESPECIALLY ADV) don't seem to care if the show is kiddish (Angelic Layer) or full on boob bouncin nudity (Steel Angel) if it's popular, it gets licensed
maybe not right away of course
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Who cares about N. America? Sophistication of animation showed in N. America cannot surpass Pokemon anyway.
just because what they show on TV is total crap doesn't mean americans are less "sophisticated"
wanna talk mature themes? if you take the time to look at channels offered with satellite/digital cable you'll find channels showing shows like Hellsing, Blueseed, Gatekeepers 21, Silent Mobius, Betterman, Dirty Pair, GTO (Showtime owns the broadcast rights to GTO and Dirty pair apparently) etc.
plus the anime network
the american general public is slowly waking up from the idea of cartoons are for kids. We have adult swim, Matt Groening, and Family Guy to thank for that.
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Old 2003-11-24, 18:54   Link #7
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just because what they show on TV is total crap doesn't mean americans are less "sophisticated"
That's just taking my words out of context and giving Pres Bush reasons to declare war against me..One doesnt need to watch anime to be sophisticated.. What is the chance of showing all those great animes you mentioned in the Network TV, say in the next 10 years? Beside why would I pay for cable/dish to watch anime, when I can buy them in DVD..and Showtime is not free even when one has cable
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Old 2003-11-24, 19:26   Link #8
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Well, your mistake is to have any faith at all in the networks. Cable is nice and fine. Adult Swim has shown lots of anime, and recently announced several more to come in the new year, and some other cable channels are starting to show some, too.


I wasn't around at the time, but didn't people say that Excel Saga would never be liscensed?

I guess Ebichu is out, and really old stuff like Rose of Versailles or Magical Angel Creamy Mami has little chance, although ADV's release of Aura Battler Dunbine gives hope.
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Old 2003-11-24, 19:43   Link #9
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Mahoujin Guruguru hasn't been licensed in, like, 10 years, so that's what I'd put my money on.
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Old 2003-11-24, 20:16   Link #10
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What is the chance of showing all those great animes you mentioned in the Network TV, say in the next 10 years?
Probably much better than you think. Anime is picking up momentum and gaining popularity very fast. As soon as it becomes profitable to do so they will start airing them. (Just like any other country)

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Who cares about N. America? Sophistication of animation showed in N. America cannot surpass Pokemon anyway
The reason people care about N. America is because once it is licensed here then it will no longer be distributed on Animesuki if it continues at all.
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Old 2003-11-24, 22:25   Link #11
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Probably much better than you think. Anime is picking up momentum and gaining popularity very fast. As soon as it becomes profitable to do so they will start airing them. (Just like any other country)
Even if they contain violence and gore..i.e Hellsing?? This year FCC's most violent dolls for Christmas shopping goes to a Hulk doll/action figure for 3 year old kid ..If pressure applied in the torso area of the doll, it supposed to make noise..In actuality, one needs to hit the doll to get any sound effect..So the doll was labeled as too violent for a 3 year old and banned by the FCC (plastic hammer anyone). You can get the confirmation of the info in the CBS.com.

My point is FCC will chew out the Network TV and force them to edit the show so much, it will be like watching Bottle Fairy accept the characters are not so cute. You honestly believe anime like Hellsing wont be popular if aired in a Network TV channel?
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The reason people care about N. America is because once it is licensed here then it will no longer be distributed on Animesuki if it continues at all.
Sadly enough, it's true..
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Old 2003-11-24, 23:46   Link #12
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Even if they contain violence and gore..i.e Hellsing?? This year FCC's most violent dolls for Christmas shopping goes to a Hulk doll/action figure for 3 year old kid ..If pressure applied in the torso area of the doll, it supposed to make noise..In actuality, one needs to hit the doll to get any sound effect..So the doll was labeled as too violent for a 3 year old and banned by the FCC (plastic hammer anyone). You can get the confirmation of the info in the CBS.com.

My point is FCC will chew out the Network TV and force them to edit the show so much, it will be like watching Bottle Fairy accept the characters are not so cute. You honestly believe anime like Hellsing wont be popular if aired in a Network TV channel?
Maybe 10 years is to small of a window, but my reasoning is this. Anime has only been a recognized form or art/entertainment for about the last 11-12 years in the U.S. Sure there where anime shows like Robotech in the early 80's but it never had a name so everyone asumed they where no different than any other cartoon. But then came Akira in the early 90's (to the U.S). I don't think many adults gave it a chance due to the fact that it was in there mind "a cartoon". Just like Nintendo was labeled a "Toy" by adults in the early 80's but videogames are now recognized as being as big of an entertainment medium as movies. Many younger kids like myself watched Akira (or others im sure) and felt it was a epiphany of what animation could be. And it has grown rapidly in popularity with people my age and younger (I guess im basing this off my own experiance with people rather than scientific study) and now we have toonami and anime based magizines poping up on most newstands, and a 24 hour anime channel that is slowly spreading accross the U.S as more cable companies pick it up (im pretty sure it's basic cable not pay extra like showtime). If these make more money and get more popular, Major networks will want in. I don't think the violence will be a problem because networks thrive on violence at late night, as they are able to show much more after (10pm I believe) which is why we have shows like NYPD Blue and a Episode of Angel advertising nudity in their comercials. And I believe that is when some of these shows would have to air. Morality is dieing slowly but surely. Give it time.

If nothing else, I think this will happen as time moves on, and people who are now growing up with anime are going to be assuming positions to make these kind of decissions. Nobody is imortal and the heads and decission makers or these networks will be replaced. Hopfully sooner than later.

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This year FCC's most violent dolls for Christmas shopping goes to a Hulk doll/action figure for 3 year old kid ..If pressure applied in the torso area of the doll, it supposed to make noise..In actuality, one needs to hit the doll to get any sound effect..So the doll was labeled as too violent for a 3 year old and banned by the FCC (plastic hammer anyone).
HAHA! Thats pretty funny.
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Old 2003-11-25, 00:37   Link #13
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Well, I personally thinkg that the only shows that won't be licensed are shows that aren't marketable. That would mean that if it's been fansubbed it is possible it will be licensed one day. The only shows that probably won't be licensed are the obscure shows from along time ago. The ones we've never heard of.
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Old 2003-11-25, 01:30   Link #15
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Old 2003-11-25, 01:49   Link #16
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Sister Princess was licensed by ADV so I'm sure they at least have an option to repure. Now I don't think Sister Princess will sell, (convinced ADV representive was drunk at the time and thought he was getting Scrapped Princess) but if it does ADV will probably bring Repure over too. I'm sure a lot of anime that right now seems like it'll never be licensed someday will. A smaller company could get a good rep among fans with a release of a series like Kanon or 'Jungle wa Itsumo Hare Nochi Guu' that's well handled
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Old 2003-11-25, 02:04   Link #17
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As long as it can sell it will be licensed.
But yes it depends how popular it gets in the fansubbing circuit.

Not even that, some of the shows that I thought would never ever be licensed have been, such as Hana Yori Dango, Boku No Sexual Harassment, Mirage of Blaze, Detective Conan and people were saying that the chance of that happening wasn't even possible.

If I have any shows to throw into the mix it would prolly have to be:
Ebichu, Aka-chan to Boku, Dr.Slump, Cream Lemon, Violinist of Hamelin.

That's all I can think of at the moment though.
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Old 2003-11-25, 02:37   Link #18
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How about Macross ie. the 7 and the zero?

I heard there are some problem with the distribution rights for the Macross franchises. Can't remember the specific details though.
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Old 2003-11-25, 05:38   Link #19
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7: music rights are far too expensive

zero: good chance, more than likely has distribution rights already, just hasnt been announced
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