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Old 2011-03-15, 22:23   Link #8841
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All his brain is doing is producing dark matter. He's only indirectly responsible for the masks creation. It's not like the brain can think for itself.


Creating a powersuit that makes use of his powers shouldn't be hard.

Or wait, looking at the wiki, they weren't just masks, they were whole powersuits.

So yea, having a darkmatter version of the railgun powersuit shouldn't be that hard to make.
It is thinking for itself. U can't "use" someone without them doing what they are told. No one can use their powers without there personal reality. How they perceive this is in their mind.
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Old 2011-03-15, 22:39   Link #8842
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But then again, since the power is so difficult to handle and manage (she has to be careful when using it otherwise she might kill herself (or blow away a limp like she ended up doing anyway)) there isn't really much point in trying to replicate it. I mean, why mass produce a double edged sword when you can go for the safer, more convenient option?
Like a Railgun.

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Those aren't really powers though Ultimately really, it depends on the proficiency of the esper themselves in using their powers, rather than what sort of power it is most of the time.
It's a function from their power that they can replicate, it might not allow to to create plasma afrom wind at will, but it's still a valuable 'technology' to acquire. Just like how the Electric Transmission which led to the Network is in some ways more valuble than her Railgun powers.


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It is thinking for itself. U can't "use" someone without them doing what they are told. No one can use their powers without there personal reality. How they perceive this is in their mind.
Where are you getting this from?

For all intends and purposes, Kakine's brain could be producing Dark Matter no different from a normal Brain producing hormones naturally. There's nothing to suggest that Personal Reality is limited to the conscious mind, otherwise Accelerator's reflect wouldn't protect himself in his sleep.
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Old 2011-03-15, 22:48   Link #8843
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Where are you getting this from?

For all intends and purposes, Kakine's brain could be producing Dark Matter no different from a normal Brain producing hormones naturally. There's nothing to suggest that Personal Reality is limited to the conscious mind, otherwise Accelerator's reflect wouldn't protect himself in his sleep.
Idk. Spouting nonsense. But it doesn't change the fact that thats kakine making the suits
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Old 2011-03-15, 22:55   Link #8844
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Well he is. He's being kept alive and all you need is the brain for your powers.
Yay for Kakine, the world's most powerful cabbage in the to aru verse.
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May Kakine (somewhat) live on! If only he hadn't picked a pick with the worst possible person
Forget picking the fight, he would have survived if he could have hold his temper. He got so pissed at Yomikawa trying to save Accelerator from the dark side that he literally provoked him into killing him... that was practically a suicide.
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Old 2011-03-16, 05:24   Link #8845
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i had not read SS2 yet but i've a question, when does SS2 takes place?
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Old 2011-03-16, 05:47   Link #8846
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i had not read SS2 yet but i've a question, when does SS2 takes place?
From january to october.

Also what means 'funya' in part 4 of chapter 1 in volume 17?
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Old 2011-03-16, 06:17   Link #8847
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From january to october.

Also what means 'funya' in part 4 of chapter 1 in volume 17?
It might have been "Iyya" or however you spell it. But due to the strenuous overload from the [Kamijou Virus] being uploaded onto the Mikoto Network, her computational process and speech pattern have been greatly crippled.


You know when I read that part, I was remind of the Tower scene in Hayate no Gotoku, and that Mikoto is alot like Hinagiku. When the two of blur out their innermost feelings in the heat of the moment, and subsequent fretting over the fallout from that mess... Makes my decision to write that certain fanfic to feel more and more justified.
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Old 2011-03-16, 07:42   Link #8848
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S.O.S. to all personnel on the wikia. Name for Hamazura should be 'Hamadura'.
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Old 2011-03-16, 07:45   Link #8849
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Hamazura's fine. It's more of romanization convention than Word of God.
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Old 2011-03-16, 07:47   Link #8850
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No, more like the text gave it as (HAMADURA), I can't just give an excuse and cheat my way out of this.
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Old 2011-03-16, 08:17   Link #8851
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Give me the exact line and I'll make my decision.
As far as I know, はまづら is both Hamazura and Hamadura. Pretty much the same reason why some Japanese romanize りつ as Ritu.
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Old 2011-03-16, 08:42   Link #8852
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Give me the exact line and I'll make my decision.
As far as I know, はまづら is both Hamazura and Hamadura. Pretty much the same reason why some Japanese romanize りつ as Ritu.
I'm guessing he means the "世紀末帝王HAMADURA" part. That's exactly how it is in the text.
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Old 2011-03-16, 11:35   Link #8853
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It might have been "Iyya" or however you spell it. But due to the strenuous overload from the [Kamijou Virus] being uploaded onto the Mikoto Network, her computational process and speech pattern have been greatly crippled.
The original used "Funya" ( ふにゃ ), as far as I figured it was only a cutesy sound made out of embarrassment... "funyafunya" is actually a "word", but it also addresses mumbling.

I loved that part "ふにゃァァあああ じゃねェェえええ"-----

The Jwiki article got conveniently updated, and according to it Shinnyusei ( 新入生 ) is actually the name of an organization... Go figure. Atwiki also points this fact.

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S.O.S. to all personnel on the wikia. Name for Hamazura should be 'Hamadura'.
I strongly advise to wait after Shiage has his animated appearance in this season before editing anything. The proper pronunciation of his name on screen should easily clear any doubts about Hamadura being a just typo or the proper way to call his name.


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Baka tsuki has started work on Chapter 1 of New Testament.
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Old 2011-03-16, 12:31   Link #8854
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Weren't there Masks that let people use Kakine's power? A squad of Dark Matter users actually I believe.

If they can use that, then I don't see why they couldn't mimic Kakine's power with a powersuit.

They could at least copy Mugino's power couldn't they?
Kakine produces matter, from which AC was able to make powersuits

Mugino's power works by stripping down electrons from atoms, gathering and accelerating them: it's a particle beam weapon, pretty much. AC's technology is 30 years ahead the rest of the word, so they may be able to make particle beam weapons, but humans-sized ones? i don't think so...

and they're not copying Mikoto's power with the railgun, they're making actual railguns....
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Old 2011-03-16, 16:09   Link #8855
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Can anyone answer these questions?


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So basically it only goes fast? Does it transform or anything? Does it have any missiles or weapons on it?
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Also, what does the Five-Over powersuit do?
Also for the Five Over powersuit, what speed do the railguns fire at?

I need the info for a wiki.
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Old 2011-03-16, 17:08   Link #8856
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Also for the Five Over powersuit, what speed do the railguns fire at?

I need the info for a wiki.

You might have to wait a long time though... But I can tell you with no amount of confidence that the rate of fire for the Gatling Railguns might be 4000 rounds per minute.
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Old 2011-03-16, 17:39   Link #8857
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Give me the exact line and I'll make my decision.
As far as I know, はまづら is both Hamazura and Hamadura. Pretty much the same reason why some Japanese romanize りつ as Ritu.
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Old 2011-03-16, 17:59   Link #8858
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So Rikou has some motherly qualities...huh.

Also, quick poll:

Who will bleed the most during their first time, Rikou or Shiage?
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Old 2011-03-16, 18:16   Link #8859
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So Rikou has some motherly qualities...huh.

Also, quick poll:

Who will bleed the most during their first time, Rikou or Shiage?
hhah... What?


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S.O.S. to all personnel on the wikia. Name for Hamazura should be 'Hamadura'.
Oh crap, wait Ping, don't make the wikia users to edit it yet.
Even trying some online translators it gives a Hamadzura, lets just wait the remaining 2 episodes to hear the pronunciation.



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Then Index reached over to the basket on top of the kotatsu and pulled out a bag of kaki peanuts looking half-asleep all the while. She opened the clear bag and…
“Here, this is your share, Touma.”
“…!?”
It was a miracle.
That girl who could not even make instant ramen (because she couldn’t wait 3 whole minutes when there was food before her eyes) had passed food in her hand to him!!
Touma, bakayarou!
Miracles can happen even with you.


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http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/in...apter_1#Part_5

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Old 2011-03-16, 18:21   Link #8860
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S.O.S. to all personnel on the wikia. Name for Hamazura should be 'Hamadura'.
"du" and "zu" should be pronounced the same way. Read up on Nihon-shiki Romanization.
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