2009-08-06, 09:58 | Link #124 |
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I haven't been on in a while so excuse me if I'm all over the place on this post.
It has been a while since the strawhats have been scattered and yet they don't seem to be getting back together anytime soon. I'm a bit miffed about this as I really liked that crew. Now all of Luffy's efforts to save his brother are all for nothing and Oda just keeps showing us how weak Luffy is. I always considered OP to be the best written of the big three but this story arc is very dissppointing. My gripes 1) Everyone is stronger than Luffy. Magellan easily defeats Luffy twice, and prevents him from saving Ace. We are supposed to halfway through the series and yet it seems the strawhats will never be the ultimate pirate crew. 2) Ace isn't even Luffy's real brother, which really undercuts a lot of the reason that Luffy wanted to save him in the first place. 3) WB still came so Luffy couldn't even prevent the massive war that was implied he would stop. While seeing WB in action is a treat, I wouldve raher seen Luffy doing all the cool stuff. I guess there is still hope that Luffy will sneak in and bust his brother out from under the world gov't 's nose. Hey ID like to see him go up against Cody again! Anyway I hope his ends soon. I don't feel like I'm reading adventures of the strawhats anymore. |
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I think you are bit too rough for Oda but I try to soothe your gripes a bit. When story started at East blue at begin (what is weakest of all oceans) there was massive hyping for grand line, but since we arrived to Grand Line it has not been *so* terrible as we might thought, though it still has been quite rollercoaster for Strawhats, then we were introduced second half of Grand Line the 'New World' where all big shots and One Piece is located New World is pretty much most feared part of Grand Line and while Luffy and Strawhats have shown massive growth they are only now encountering full might of Grand Line dangers. Luffy is NOT weak but he isnt strongest either, he has bounty of 300 million, defeated 2 shichibukais and defeated Cp9/Enel and he fearless and combat genius but he still is just a kid who is not even 20 years old with quite limited experience, IF he would beat everyone including best of WG (Kizaru, Magellan) then it wouldnt be that realistic. Yeah you could expect shonen main heros to be winning all time and even without logic and strange powerups but there is slight realism in this one and Oda is showing that Luffy and other SH's have still much to learn. Quote:
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2009-08-06, 10:49 | Link #126 |
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Oh ho ho awesome!
So many DFs! Starters I really liking the look of Onigumo's DF, spider arms is it? oh and haha now is it just me or does the marine next to Onigumo look like Gomez Addams?! Also that Marine with the Mask on the right, anyone else think he has something to do with Killer from Laws crew? aww hell really couldn't care, its all just kicking off now! Lets get the party started!!!
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Edit:Odas color spreads are still wack. Last edited by Master Mold; 2009-08-06 at 11:12. |
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2009-08-06, 13:37 | Link #128 |
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I like that Oda is keeping it more realistic and making Luffy power up slower than we used to see. As it is mentioned before, it is different than most of the shounens out there. However, If you are not considering the other aspects of the story in the same manner, then there is a problem. He is not powerful, but he does not think at all before jumping into danger.
You may say that he is simple minded and does things without thinking, but I don't wanna watch a shounen where the main character you root for is beaten once or twice before pulling some stunt and win. Make the dangers grow slower as well. What I want is either Luffy becomes more powerful than anyone and jumps whatever danger there is or he should not bite off more than he can chew. |
2009-08-06, 13:45 | Link #129 |
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Luffy is only 17 years old, and what he has achieved in such a short amount of time as a Pirate is phenomenal.
Magellan, Blackbeard, Sentamaru, all these guys Luffy got owned by, they are all vastly more experienced fighters and have been around a lot longer. Awesome chapter. I totally love that ending with Marco. I've always said Marco was gonna be a bad ass, and everyone gets to see it for themselves. |
2009-08-06, 13:48 | Link #130 | |
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What's wrong with the colour spread? I've always thought that Oda has some of the best colour spreads, with great use of colours, wonderful use of perspective (fore-, mid-, and background are always clear and clean), and a general excitement and hilarity that is highly reflective of the story and the characters. |
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2009-08-06, 13:56 | Link #132 | |
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The chap 583 is really good. totally love it Poor Aokiji And Marco and Jozu are bad ass Well I hope it's not Garp on page 11 >_>
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2009-08-06, 13:59 | Link #133 |
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I think that there's still plenty of time left for Luffy and the Straw Hats to grow, because I don't think the series is anywhere near over. There's still the rest of this arc, which I can see taking a long time, as well as the whole New World, as well as a number of important sidestories which haven't been addressed. Because of that, I think the progress Luffy's made is right on schedule. I don't think it would be reasonable to have him as powerful as decades-long seasoned pirates even if he is a gifted and well-trained fighter.
One thing that is kind of weird, although I understand it, is that Luffy kinda went to Impel Down for no reason. True, he gained some unexpected allies along the way, like Buggy, Jinbei and Crocodile, et al., but he didn't accomplish his mission. Which is actually kinda good because then the whole war wouldn't have happened and we wouldn't have seen this big war. Man, Whitebeard is a bad dude. Haha. He's just standing there smiling through everything, not worried in the least about anything at all. All these powerful enemies before him, and he won't lose that cocky grin. 'Aokiji, you little rascal.' That's gold to me, talking down to one of the Marines' most powerful, as though he was just a baby. Looks like Sengoku's guarding Ace. Maybe he's the final challenge for any potential savior.... I have no doubt that he's pretty powerful. And one last thing; a lot's been said about duels between Whitebeard's crew and big members of the Marines' army.... but in a war this chaotic in which the stage and scale is huge, do they have time and space for something as organized as a battle by duels? |
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2009-08-06, 15:04 | Link #136 | |
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Looks like Aokiji got shattered by Whitebeard. He's probably ok, since he is a logia user and all. Then again, I don't doubt that Whitebeard knows how to attack logias to make them tangible, so you never know. |
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2009-08-06, 15:24 | Link #137 |
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It's a gas Logia. I like that guess a lot.
Actually Kizaru's ability is not all that unbeatable if you have a way to reflect it, is it? It has probably a lot of utilities (speed, mostly) but in a head-on attack a lot of DFs can render it useless IMO. But! That gives me the idea of a possible Blackbeard/Kizaru clash. Black holes as you probably know are created when not even light can escape from a gravitational field, but that is pretty much the last thing to succumb to it. So maybe Ki-mac would have a greater chance than any other Logia against BB, Ace included. |
2009-08-06, 15:31 | Link #139 |
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The only thing Luffy needs to do in this war is beat Smoker, then I will be happy.
As for the whole Mihawk ordeal, he does need to defeat Jose, I don't really care how it happens though, a short or long battle would be fine with me. Then he needs to face whitebeard, and do what he intended to do in the first place, measure himself against the strongest man in the world. |
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