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Arf(without shooting spells/flight) VS. Regenerating Giant Rock Golem ...good luck trying to beat that with punches and kicks xDU.
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2012-01-07, 12:45 | Link #403 | ||
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If not, go for the caster. Arf knows the weaknesses of Golem users, what with Vivio's close friend Corona being one and using it in a famous tournament and all. Quote:
Now the difference between various types of field spells, sure. You're right on that one. But that goes for any kind of magic, really. *rolls eyes* Aside from those. Besides, Aki would just argue that since they're armor and not weapons, the runes wouldn't work on them. Which I still say depends on the source used. If I recall, in the novels Saito could use a decorative blade created for show as a weapon. The decorative blade just broke because it wasn't designed to be used as a weapon. |
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So yeah, those can enter the list of tools usable by Arf in the story xD Quote:
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2012-01-07, 13:57 | Link #405 | |
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*frowns* All magic? Surely even a nerfed Arf has enough power to handle a golem?
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2012-01-07, 14:27 | Link #406 |
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The only reason I can see Arf getting Derflinger is because she's the Gandalfr, given what Derf says (at least in the anime): He's always paired with Gandalfr. That'd be the only roadblock I can see for this instance, and you'd need a different method of getting them together because Arf wouldn't need to purchase a sword--she makes robots explode with her fists, so yeah.
Even if Arf didn't have enough magic to outright destroy the golem, she could easily go after its caster, or tell the others how to defeat something like it. Saito had little in the way of magical training after all... something Arf has plenty of experience in.
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2012-01-07, 15:33 | Link #410 | ||
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In resume, Gandalfr only work with what's planned to be a weapon from the very beginning, not with something improvised to be a weapon along the way. If a broomstick was constructed secretly to be aweapon, then the Gandalfr will gain instant expertise with it, if it's just a common broomstick made with the purpouse of cleaning stuff, then Gandalfr has no effect on it. Now THAT would be funny xD!
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2012-01-07, 15:56 | Link #412 |
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Never mind her complete lack of artificial weaponry in her true form. Arf simply doesn't need Derflinger to fight. Essentially, Aki, the only reason you think she needs Derflinger to fight is because Saito needed Derflinger to fight.
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2012-01-07, 16:15 | Link #414 | |
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I don't deny that some creative sugguestions and justifications for the use of Derflinger had arised and all of those sound pretty interesting so i think those could be welcomed if well writen.
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2012-01-07, 16:34 | Link #416 | |
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She's extremely familiar with the type, and Derf displays intelligence on the level of a Unison Device. Any Midchildan would snatch one up for a decent price (especially when one's "employer" is the one footing the bill), for the same reason that Yuuno held onto Raising Heart even when it only accepted him as a guest user. It's not necessarily that she intends to use it, so much as, "Hey, I can give this to my mage friends later" or "this should be really useful for Louise, even if she doesn't agree yet!" Discovering his "AMF" trick would only reassure her that this was a sound investment, after the disappointment of learning that he can't actually enhance spells like those sword-wand things. |
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2012-01-07, 16:43 | Link #418 |
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As I already said, a mildly creative writer can contrive of a situation that brings Derf to Arf/Yuuno, or brings both of them to the same place.
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2012-01-07, 16:48 | Link #419 |
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Why follow canon as closely as people seem to need to?
While there's nothing wrong with following the general outline of canon for various major points, you don't need to follow everything that happens in canon down to the letter... Heck, why not have Golem Lady (forgot her name) that shows up trying to wreck stuff steal it?
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