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Old 2011-09-05, 20:04   Link #1181
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Preeeetty sure, regarding EP5, Krauss is not the culprit. And he was killed long ago, shortly after you heard his voice over the phone, get it?

So "No Death" for EP5 has never sat well with me. Though really, the fake magic circles (as said, probably drawn by Rosa or a cousin) are among the least problematic elements of EP5, anyways.

And thinking on the issue of "Why the hell would Yasu kill Nanjo?", I realized that we're talking about the same emotionally overcharged girl who was did in fact, on two seperate occasions, shoot / stake herself in the damn head purely to preserve her illusion / make shit more confusing.
Everyone technically ended up dead... only we were never showed that scene. The general theory is that the deaths we're shown are fake... later however the people that had faked their death were killed... and so was Krauss. Only, since nothing is said about what happened later because the trial interrupted the flow of the story, we can't really guess how they were murdered and who did the killing.

Ep 7 suggested Yasu resented Nanjo had the others for making her/him survive the fall.
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Old 2011-09-05, 20:20   Link #1182
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Ep 7 suggested Yasu resented Nanjo had the others for making her/him survive the fall.
Technically, no it doesn't. She only resents herself.
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Old 2011-09-05, 21:33   Link #1183
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Everyone technically ended up dead... only we were never showed that scene. The general theory is that the deaths we're shown are fake... later however the people that had faked their death were killed... and so was Krauss. Only, since nothing is said about what happened later because the trial interrupted the flow of the story, we can't really guess how they were murdered and who did the killing.

Ep 7 suggested Yasu resented Nanjo had the others for making her/him survive the fall.
Yeah, I'm aware that everyone died later. I posted mostly in response to someone commenting that it was "Yasu or no deaths", and to restate that End has ALL SORTS OF ISSUES if we're holding it to the exact same bar as the other arcs. Mind you, this red can go either way because the reference of "shortly after" is relative, but I personally think it means Krauss was literally murdered right after Natsuhi heard him on the phone. I forget the timeline of Natsuhi's movements versus' the movements of everyone else, as a group, but, within 30 minutes of the call?

And that seriously wouldn't be any more odd than Krauss being taken hostage in the first place. 'Cause EP5 rolls like that. XD
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Old 2011-09-05, 22:02   Link #1184
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Technically, no it doesn't. She only resents herself.
Actually he's not wrong. At that moment when she or he screamed at them s\he was really resenting them.
But I guess it was just a moment of anger and later realized they had no fault. Although... that's just an interpretation. We don't really know if that happened or not.
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Old 2011-09-05, 22:13   Link #1185
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Actually he's not wrong. At that moment when she or he screamed at them s\he was really resenting them.
That's not how it read to be, but, eh, interpretations.
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Old 2011-09-06, 11:31   Link #1186
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That's not how it read to be, but, eh, interpretations.
In fact I said 'it suggested' not that 'it stated'.

We don't know the exact, objective truth.
Regarding the sentence showing how upset yasu was, we don't know which point of view if being used, however, regardless of it, who's not Yasu couldn't know what was in Yasu's heart and Yasu might have embellished the truth or distorted it according to Yasu's own feelings.

So I think mine is a possible interpretation, though definitely not a red truth. Let's say it gets to the level of blue?
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Old 2011-09-06, 11:57   Link #1187
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Yeah, I'm aware that everyone died later. I posted mostly in response to someone commenting that it was "Yasu or no deaths", and to restate that End has ALL SORTS OF ISSUES if we're holding it to the exact same bar as the other arcs. Mind you, this red can go either way because the reference of "shortly after" is relative, but I personally think it means Krauss was literally murdered right after Natsuhi heard him on the phone. I forget the timeline of Natsuhi's movements versus' the movements of everyone else, as a group, but, within 30 minutes of the call?

And that seriously wouldn't be any more odd than Krauss being taken hostage in the first place. 'Cause EP5 rolls like that. XD
I'm not sure to what you're referring though I know I talked to something similar.
My belief however was that if the gold was discovered Yasu wouldn't kill the people but this won't spare them from being killed in the end because one of the siblings would kindly take care of this.

... though if you're talking of someone else's message feel free to ignore me...
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Old 2011-11-17, 17:17   Link #1188
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Hey guys. I heard about this Ikuko character. What does Ikuko mean? i heard it also had meaning like toya=18.
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Old 2011-11-17, 17:41   Link #1189
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You have to watch ep8
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Old 2011-11-17, 17:50   Link #1190
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With some number wordplay it can be read as "19 child", although that's not the original meaning of the name.
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Old 2011-11-17, 17:54   Link #1191
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With some number wordplay it can be read as "19 child", although that's not the original meaning of the name.
So what would that say about Battler...?
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Old 2011-11-17, 17:55   Link #1192
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With some number wordplay it can be read as "19 child", although that's not the original meaning of the name.
Well is that so.

anyways, What's the original meaning then?
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Old 2011-11-17, 18:22   Link #1193
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Well is that so.

anyways, What's the original meaning then?
Ikuko (幾子):
幾: several, many
子: child

Oh, that's interesting. 我は我にして我らなり?
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Old 2011-11-17, 18:31   Link #1194
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Ikuko (幾子):
幾: several, many
子: child

Oh, that's interesting. 我は我にして我らなり?
Thanks. i kinda suspect that Ikuko's name (just like Toya) have different meaning. Well isn't that some kinda like a description of Yasu?
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Old 2011-12-12, 14:10   Link #1195
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Hey,

I'm not sure if this is the right place to ask, but....

I was wondering... does anyone know where to buy Eps 5-8 in CD form? Both of the websites listed on wich-hunt are sold out.

Any help would be great
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Old 2011-12-17, 23:21   Link #1196
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Finally finished the game ;_;
Seriously guys, how can they said that it's going to be a bad end!?
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Old 2011-12-17, 23:58   Link #1197
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Hey,

I'm not sure if this is the right place to ask, but....

I was wondering... does anyone know where to buy Eps 5-8 in CD form? Both of the websites listed on wich-hunt are sold out.

Any help would be great
I'd like to know the same thing, but preferably a place that will also be selling OMK CROSS if anyone knows of one. Mandrake has EP 8, but not OMK CROSS.
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Old 2011-12-18, 06:37   Link #1198
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Finally finished the game ;_;
Seriously guys, how can they said that it's going to be a bad end!?
*Quote for truth.
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Old 2011-12-18, 10:16   Link #1199
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Finally finished the game ;_;
Seriously guys, how can they said that it's going to be a bad end!?
Double quote for truth. It was an amazing end which suited the style of storytelling in Umineko. I would have liked to know what's inside Eva's diary, but Ange's reaction made that all too clear.

Spoiler:
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Old 2011-12-18, 15:19   Link #1200
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Just finished! I stayed off these boards to avoid being spoiled for Episode 8 with the final translation so near.

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Finally finished the game ;_;
Seriously guys, how can they said that it's going to be a bad end!?
Spoiler for Hmm?:


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