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Old 2014-03-11, 06:33   Link #1
ChibiGoku
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Recent Doraemon Film Censored on TV Asahi Broadcast

So, Anime News Network reported on something... I find rather surprising and to be perfectly honest, shocked that it would even happen. It has apparently reported that the recent Doraemon movie, Doraemon: Nobita no Himitsu no Dogu Museum, was censored on the March 6th broadcast of the film on TV Asahi.

Apparently the scene that was censored was Shizuka's clothing being ripped and sucked into a vacuum cleaner, which they censored by overlaying a seam of light, much like those found in late night anime broadcasts. Someone posted some shots from the DVD/BD and the TV airing, which you can find [in the link behind the nsfw tags as the site it links to is filled with such imagery on the sides]:

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As to my opinion? Honestly, I'm disappointed. I never thought I'd see Doraemon, of all things, be censored by the network it originated from. Not to mention, the method of censorship is very much like that of what you expect from a late night anime, too, which does not sit well with me either. What puzzles me more is the fact that the scene in question was fine when it ran in theaters, but too much to show on TV? This makes little sense to me, especially given the network has been fine with scenes like this in the past.

This is particularly concerning, when the whole scene in question was just meant for comedic purposes and less provocative. If anything, the method of censorship seems to make it seem more lewd then it really is.

I'm really wondering why Japan has been more sensitive to these things as of late, when they never used to be a problem in the past.

I don't know, what's your guys opinions about this?

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Old 2014-03-11, 07:22   Link #2
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the scene that was censored was Shizuka's clothing being ripped and sucked into a vacuum cleaner
I'm not surprised that this was censored for self-explanatory reasons.
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Old 2014-03-11, 09:05   Link #3
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Hearing that news, I too am surprised. Shizuka has been shown naked dozens of times in the series without any problems (considering most of those scenes are merely for comedic purposes and not titillation). Still, when I look at the aforementioned footage, I do feel it a bit “lewd” compared to previous “naked Shizuka”-moments. I don’t know why, maybe it’s the ripped clothes giving the impression of eroticism or sexual violence? Maybe the censorship standard has changed from few years ago and whoever in charge becomes more sensitive about “child pornography” in any form or any media nowadays.
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Old 2014-03-11, 09:15   Link #4
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That reminds me, was there an episode where Shizuka suffered from the same situation?
All I know of "Shizuka fanservice" were her random panchira and times where she's caught taking a bath.
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Old 2014-03-11, 09:51   Link #5
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That reminds me, was there an episode where Shizuka suffered from the same situation?
All I know of "Shizuka fanservice" were her random panchira and times where she's caught taking a bath.
I think I remember an episode where our gang was practicing a play using Doraemon’s tool, and at the climax of the episode, they kinda pushed a button or something that forced them to go all out practicing from beginning to end no matter what. And in that play, Shizuka was forced to strip (giving parts of her clothes one-by-one to other characters until she was left naked and crying) since the character she was playing was supposed to do that. That whole scene was intense (if not brutal ) and it wasn’t censored IIRC.
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Old 2014-03-11, 10:27   Link #6
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Maybe the censorship standard has changed from few years ago and whoever in charge becomes more sensitive about “child pornography” in any form or any media nowadays.
I haven't seen the scene being discussed and how it compares to previous such scenes in the past, but I'm willing to bet that your guess is the reason behind the censorship. Japan has recently (in the last year or so) passed stricter laws regulating child pornography. The anime and manga industries are very nervous about how these new laws will be applied to their products. So the industries are pro-actively self-censoring more than they used to. There's been a noticeable increase in the amount of steam, light beams, and patches of darkness in recent anime shows compared to prior years.
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Old 2014-03-12, 21:13   Link #7
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Well that scene in those pictures doesn't look like something from a family program. It looks like something that a late night show would do.
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Old 2014-03-13, 08:40   Link #8
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As unpopular as it is on the West, i actually read Doraemon when i was small, and all those scene with naked Shizuka was (to me) more to show the awkwardness/ embarrassment than fan-service. Of course there is a chance that some sick bastard may buy an episode and chapter to fawn over it. But honestly there will be some sicko like that no matter what you do. And in Japan, i believe lolicon stuffs were overflowing so there should be no reason for them to go to backstage on this


If the issue was on the kids and how "adult stuffs" should be censored in their eyes. I still think as kid, seeing naked girl is still more of embarrassment than actually provoking sexual tension. Seeing a drawing of naked adult however may give some complicated feelings (the furthest i go would be a Tezuka's short story, where i didn't quite realise that until now) so they should focus on that instead
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Old 2014-03-14, 00:36   Link #9
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The reason why it is censored is probably because it is this type of fanservice that has been selling lots of ecchi BDs lately, and the industry knows that scenes like this are usually oogled by perverted eyes. Too much body figure and expression make it kind of lewd imo, and this type of depiction has no place in a children's show.

Using the idea of being stripped of clothes in the form of humiliation is ok. Even depicting nakedness with non-detailed footage of a nude body is ok. But this is almost a textbook case of ecchi fanservice in a kids show which is not ok.
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Old 2014-03-14, 05:45   Link #10
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Ummm OP, can you put a NSFW warning on the link you posted?
The article itself is fine, but the site is CRAMMED with adult banner ads not appropriate for any workplace, or being posted on animesuki without warning.
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Old 2014-03-14, 05:58   Link #11
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Ummm OP, can you put a NSFW warning on the link you posted?
The article itself is fine, but the site is CRAMMED with adult banner ads not appropriate for any workplace, or being posted on animesuki without warning.
QFT.

I also strongly recommend adblock. Before I paused it I had no idea what you meant but afterwards, good god. Seriously.
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Old 2014-03-18, 12:14   Link #12
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QFT.

I also strongly recommend adblock. Before I paused it I had no idea what you meant but afterwards, good god. Seriously.
Ack, I apologize for that. I also had adblock on and wasn't aware of it. Thanks to the mod that edited though.

I'll try to be more careful about linking to stuff like this from this website in the future.
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Old 2014-05-09, 11:03   Link #13
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I think that it may be due to the fact that TV Asahi is a broadcast terrestrial station. Usually, these stations have tighter restrictions on what they can/can't air. Adding to that are the facts that TV Asahi is one of the "big six" terrestrial TV stations in Japan (alongside NHK, Nittele, TBS, Fuji TV and TV Tokyo), that Japan has no TV programme rating system, and that parental controls are usually relegated to BS satellite and cable.

Even then, the Doraemon series has, for some time, been known for "getting rubbish past the radar". So, I'm not surprised.
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Old 2014-05-11, 22:39   Link #14
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And now news comes that Doraemon will be airing in the US on DisneyXD, and by all accounts the localization is on the level of 4Kids. I mean, they change a first aid kit to a pizza.
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Old 2014-05-13, 10:15   Link #15
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Some of these just seem random. I guess people might get confused with the checkmarks thing, but replacing chopsticks and a doll?
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Old 2014-05-13, 10:51   Link #16
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How can it be? In the world that is more and more globalized like today, American studios still refuse to acknowledge that some of the children entertainment came from another country and has foreign cultures in it? Americanizing an anime with a rather thick Japanese culture like Doraemon is really unnecessary (if not disrespectful). I mean, Doraemon is a story about the everyday life of Japanese kids. The Japanese culture is quite a big part of it. Replace it with a (forced) American culture and you’ll get an awkward show at best.
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How can it be? In the world that is more and more globalized like today, American studios still refuse to acknowledge that some of the children entertainment came from another country and has foreign cultures in it? Americanizing an anime with a rather thick Japanese culture like Doraemon is really unnecessary (if not disrespectful). I mean, Doraemon is a story about the everyday life of Japanese kids. The Japanese culture is quite a big part of it. Replace it with a (forced) American culture and you’ll get an awkward show at best.
What's worse in this case, is that the Japanese producers are the ones making the localization, as to make it suitable for American audiences. As if American kids are stupid enough to not understand that what they see is not from their own culture, and that any questions that arise from that should be responsibility of the parents.

I fail to see how American children are fundamentally different from Japanese children, or why the foreign kids need to be dumbed down when the natives do not.
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