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Old 2011-03-05, 09:25   Link #1041
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But her soul is already in a Soul Gem. What's Kyubei going to do, put it into another Soul Gem?
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Old 2011-03-05, 10:26   Link #1042
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Evaluation of guesses made a month ago

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Long range guess on what will happen: Sayaka will not be the one who Madoka becomes a mahou shojo for. Homura will be the one she sacrifices for instead.
Kyubei seems to think so as well though in a different view

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Madoka is the super witch in the first episode dream sequence with her costume colors surrounding her. Homura's wish is somehow broken possibly from kyubei's machinations/death and Madoka and Homura are drawn into the world of episode 1. The finale has Madoka and Homura fighting witch Madoka and succeeding. As Madoka would then be a mahou shoujo, she kills herself to prevent witch Madoka from ever happening.
Still in the running but parts look unlikely

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In episode 6, Kamijo dies.
In episode 7, Sayaka becomes a witch or is destroyed
In episode 8, Kyoko dies
In episode 9, Kyubei's final gambit starts
In episode 10, Homura's wish unravels. All is returned to episode 1's dream. Homura dies.
In episode 11, Madoka becomes a MS and fights her older witch self. She wins and finally Madoka kills herself to prevent herself from becoming a witch once more
Eh initially thought it was 11 eps instead of 12. Moving everything 1 step down results in wrong, right, right, unknown, unknown, unknown

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Old 2011-03-05, 10:41   Link #1043
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If the beginning of ep1 is indeed walpurgisnacht, then it's possible that there's huge change between the two timelines already.
It's obvious that Madoka in this timeline has seen a lot more would be mentally stronger come that fateful night. Instead of saying those useless words while watching Homura getting hammered, there's a possibility of her being resolute and determined. You cannot grow without taking some falls first. Luckily for Madoka she doesn't have to fall herself.

On the flip side, she could also be absolutely broken at that time and the universe goes for the worse.
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Old 2011-03-05, 12:47   Link #1044
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It is sad that, given the clues that there will not be a "happy" end for any of the remaining characters, the best case scenario I can come up with is:-

1. Madoka contracts, becomes a magical girl and defeats Walpurgisnacht.
2. Madoka asks Homura to destroy her Soul Gem before she turns into a witch.
3. Homura does so.
4. Before jumping to the next timeline, Homura tell herself, "Next time, I'll succeed."

Only loose end is what effect will Madoka's wish have on the world.
If Madoka really reaches the point where she knows she's going to die, I'll bet one of her thoughts will be she's sorry she never got to drink with her mother after all.
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Old 2011-03-05, 13:52   Link #1045
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One scenario that has just crossed my mind is the potential disaster or blessing from Madoka wishing that all sentient race can generate emotions on their own as well. The is one Pandora's box of a wish if granted. Chances are however, that she won't be wishing for something to that nature.
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Old 2011-03-05, 16:20   Link #1046
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One scenario that has just crossed my mind is the potential disaster or blessing from Madoka wishing that all sentient race can generate emotions on their own as well. The is one Pandora's box of a wish if granted. Chances are however, that she won't be wishing for something to that nature.
Agreed, its unlikely though remotely possible. The permutations of the finale is still very great. Possibilities i can guess as of now would be
i) Madoka never makes the wish, uses Homura's pink gem which is her soul gem in another time.
ii) Madoka makes the wish and kills herself after
iii) Madoka makes the wish and wins, gaining another wish (if W-night's prize is a wish). This is used to send Homura or herself back
iv) Madoka never makes the wish and never becomes a MS, foiling the plot. Homoura dies though self destruct, removing W-night threat.
v) Madoka makes the wish and uses the time before she becomes a witch to help people, meeting Homura later on. Homura makes the wish to save Madoka
vi) Madoka makes a wish outside of probability (eg Kyubei's race now emotional). Chaos ensues and/or system ends
vii) Madoka makes the wish to send Homura back. This places the fate of the world on hold as the timeline is reset
viii) Bad plot possibilities: External agency intervenes, Kyubei has an attack of remorse, Madoka visits Kyubei's planet and becomes a witch there.

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Old 2011-03-05, 16:44   Link #1047
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I thought once Madoka turns into a witch, QB basically 'wins'. So in this scenario, witch Madoka must have been powerful enough to throw off QB's plans?
Possibly. I mean if Witch Madoka is so powerful then no Puella Magi can defeat her. That means there will be a decrease on Puella Magi surviving and turning into witches. Unless Kyubey makes a lot of contract and construct it that most of them turn into witches before Walpurgis Night and save that energy for something else, then having Witch Madoka roam around and kill, won't be a problem for him. But since he can't control witches then having Witch Madoka around is a problem for him.

I don't mind the bittersweet ending. I just don't want those open-ended endings or cliffhanger endings. Though if I have to guess an ending, it's either:
1. Everyone dies and Madoka is still a human.
2. Everyone dies, Madoka's a Puella Magi and possibly doing what Mami and Homura did before.
3. She dies and Homura goes back in time.

By the way, is it possible to bring back dead Puella Magi/Witch with just a wish? If Madoka wishes so to bring back Mami, Sayaka and Kyoko with her wish, it that possible? But then that won't be a bittersweet ending.
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Old 2011-03-05, 18:06   Link #1048
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Hmm, I said this in the ep 9 thread, but it probably wasn't a good place to post it, but operating under the following assumptions:

1. QB is not lying about Entropy Heat Death
2. Entropy Heath Death is actually occuring, and only through the harvesting of magical girls is it being stopped.
3. Madoka can permanently stop the effects of Entropy Heat Death by perpetually generating the energy to fill the void.

Then the ending would be something like:
1. Madoka contracts with QB, fights Walpurgis Night with Homura.
2. Madoka turns into a witch, QB somehow has a special 'harvest' for her, and the Entropy Heat Death is stopped.
3. QB and his race leave humanity because they no longer need Magical Girls.
4. Madoka's wish to prevent Homura from resetting the timeline and forget everything about Madoka and Magical girls, and lives a normal life.
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Old 2011-03-05, 19:05   Link #1049
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I have a prediction for the next episode:

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We shall see.
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Old 2011-03-05, 21:47   Link #1050
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By the way, is it possible to bring back dead Puella Magi/Witch with just a wish? If Madoka wishes so to bring back Mami, Sayaka and Kyoko with her wish, it that possible? But then that won't be a bittersweet ending.
You know this raises the question of just how much Kyuubei can do....obviously not enough or he wouldn't be facing the need to harvest humans...
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Old 2011-03-05, 22:00   Link #1051
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my ending prediction

Despite the title i am going to predict that Madoka does not become a Magical Girl. Homeura will sacrificing herself and wither manage to take the MegaWitch with her or somehow force the megawitch to leave. Homeura wins by stopping madoka form becoming a witch but dies and leaves Madoka alone with the truth.
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Old 2011-03-05, 22:06   Link #1052
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my ending prediction

Despite the title i am going to predict that Madoka does not become a Magical Girl. Homeura will sacrificing herself and wither manage to take the MegaWitch with her or somehow force the megawitch to leave. Homeura wins by stopping madoka form becoming a witch but dies and leaves Madoka alone with the truth.
That would be the greatest trolling ever
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Old 2011-03-05, 22:07   Link #1053
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That would be the greatest trolling ever
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Old 2011-03-05, 22:13   Link #1054
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Actually, the kind of troll ending that I am going to put forth would be the race of Incubator finding the ability to generate emotion themselves, and would leave our emotionally devastated Madoka with food for thought as Kyuubee goes to save the universe as well. The whole thing would come down to her having to live on as the age of magical girl finally draws to a close, and history can begin.

Is the tragedy of Madoka who has survived worse than the Incubator race who will then bear with the neverending emotional nightmare? Wish taking vengeance on those who belittle it might be the end note here.
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Old 2011-03-05, 22:29   Link #1055
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My troll ending is that Kyubey was not evil, and the universe dies because he fails to contract Madoka.
Episode 13 is a black screen for 23 minutes. At the 24th minute, when only supremely bored otaku are still watching, a big bang happens. In an alternate timeline, Madoka wishes to become God and fixes the universe.
Q.E.D.
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Old 2011-03-05, 22:43   Link #1056
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Blank Screen for 10 seconds, *cue in Haruhi OP1*
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Old 2011-03-05, 23:20   Link #1057
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I'm not sure how it'll turn out. Could see them just going full out bad ending. Homura is losing the fight, Madoka makes her wish and joins the fight. Madoka quickly loses herself after all the friends she has lost and the fate of the Puella Magi. She turns into the most powerful witch and the world is doomed, thus forcing Homura to jump to another timeline in hopes of things working out.

Suppose another option is pretty much that with a message at the end of the episode about a sequel coming out in a couple seasons . Maybe there Homura doesn't make any mistakes.
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Old 2011-03-05, 23:21   Link #1058
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Suppose another option is pretty much that with a message at the end of the episode about a sequel coming out in a couple seasons . Maybe there Homura doesn't make any mistakes.
you want 8 seasons of Madoka?
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Old 2011-03-05, 23:48   Link #1059
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you want 8 seasons of Madoka?
Well in that theoretical situation they'd finish it up in one more season. 8 seasons definitely a bit too much of Madoka .
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Old 2011-03-06, 02:26   Link #1060
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Well in that theoretical situation they'd finish it up in one more season. 8 seasons definitely a bit too much of Madoka .
I'd hit it, only if it were all feel good Madoka for the rest of the 7 seasons...
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