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ZeroXSEED · 2012-02-14, 21:51

You do not underestimate a kid's mind, remember child developed their mental as they grow, grow with bad childhood and it's a damn miracle to survive as proper adult.

Please accept it as advice and not argument.

Eratas123 · 2012-02-14, 21:56

I never accept it as an argument

I asked a question, so I expect answers that don't exactly agree with my previous mindset

Anyway, is it odd for a child who was abused to still try and defend their parent when he/she's in danger?

ZeroXSEED · 2012-02-14, 22:17

Stockholm effect?

This happen very often, in fact. It's wrong way of imprinting, but imprinting nonetheless

If this happens, then the person defending the abuser is mentally disturbed to certain degree and pretty much require rehabilitation, or at the very least psychotherapy and/or a lot of emotional support...

Eratas123 · 2012-02-14, 22:20

@ Senpai - Not defending their actions, mind you. I meant trying to stop someone from killing said abuser even if it's deserved.

ZeroXSEED · 2012-02-14, 22:23

Well, that one is sorta justified per humanly instinct than anything else.

Eratas123 · 2012-02-14, 22:29

@ Senpai - I planned to use it as an ironic echo to show how Irish differs from both the past and present. In the past he defended his almost complete monster dad when he should've been happy he was getting killed while in the present he encourages killing anyone who has a possibility of being a threat.

ZeroXSEED · 2012-02-14, 22:33

Wow, good point.

Rin also did pretty much the same thing, Ichika are this close to permanently crippling a girl who... erm, went too far with bullying and almost caused fatal injury in Rin herself.

Cue 9 months later and Rin beat the crap out of her when she's not repenting at all.

Eratas123 · 2012-02-14, 22:37

@ Senpai - Hypocrisy is expected when someone's angry or hyped up on teen hormones.

Side note - Is it possible for a wide eyed idealist to act like he's somewhat like a cynic?

ZeroXSEED · 2012-02-14, 22:42

Yes, it was possible. As for how, dunno. Maybe doing it by way of sarcasm and being snarky? also, Hypocrisy is expected.

Eratas123 · 2012-02-14, 22:50

@ Senpai - How does one usually get phobia's? Through extended time with the thing you're scared of, or just being born with it.

ZeroXSEED · 2012-02-14, 22:52

Sometimes you developed it after excessive exposure, but sometimes they also caused by one-scene trauma.

I don't know about phobia that exist all along :|

Eratas123 · 2012-02-14, 23:07

@ Senpai - Is it possible for the body to develop a violent reaction when faced with something they're afraid of?

ZeroXSEED · 2012-02-14, 23:18

Yes, there's a blurred line between paralyzed in fear and furiously rebelling. It's mostly due to adrenaline.

Eratas123 · 2012-02-14, 23:28

@'Sempai - So the reaction is unconscious and not of the person's will?

ZeroXSEED · 2012-02-14, 23:32

They act more like subconscious drive indeed, like someone within your brains telling you to fight or flight (run).

Eratas123 · 2012-02-14, 23:38

@ Senpai - How would someone with Gynophobia react to being in physical contact with females, a person afraid of fire coming into contact with fire etc etc?

ZeroXSEED · 2012-02-14, 23:45

Once again, usually three choice: stunned, panic/violence, or run.

Eratas123 · 2012-02-14, 23:48

@ Senpai - Do Ichika and Madoka have any weaknesses or phobias?

ZeroXSEED · 2012-02-14, 23:51

Lesbian for Madoka. As for Ichika, bad food

Eratas123 · 2012-02-15, 00:06

Why's Madoka homophobic? Most people have reasons for being so.

2012-02-14, 21:51	Link #22121
ZeroXSEED Jackass Cat Lover Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: SPARTAAAAA!!!!!!	You do not underestimate a kid's mind, remember child developed their mental as they grow, grow with bad childhood and it's a damn miracle to survive as proper adult. Please accept it as advice and not argument. __________________ "I.S. Fandom is highly volatile domain filled by jaded readers tired of cliche. They're also especially skeptic to OC, especially male OC" "Why do you ask? Imagine this: look at those, those are a bunch of character you like, bunch of characters you identified well. Then there's that machine, singlehandedly flipped the social order, where females become more dominant, and boost the advancement of technology." "Then suddenly you look at him, he appeared out of nowhere, with no convincing background or relation to other character, cooler than male main character squared despite just as flat in personality, stomp the heroines and stole their heart (and possibly body) with his uberwank machine" "How do you NOT feel angry again? Oh wait, you create him"

2012-02-14, 21:56	Link #22122
Eratas123 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011	I never accept it as an argument I asked a question, so I expect answers that don't exactly agree with my previous mindset Anyway, is it odd for a child who was abused to still try and defend their parent when he/she's in danger? __________________

2012-02-14, 22:17	Link #22123
ZeroXSEED Jackass Cat Lover Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: SPARTAAAAA!!!!!!	Stockholm effect? This happen very often, in fact. It's wrong way of imprinting, but imprinting nonetheless If this happens, then the person defending the abuser is mentally disturbed to certain degree and pretty much require rehabilitation, or at the very least psychotherapy and/or a lot of emotional support... __________________ "I.S. Fandom is highly volatile domain filled by jaded readers tired of cliche. They're also especially skeptic to OC, especially male OC" "Why do you ask? Imagine this: look at those, those are a bunch of character you like, bunch of characters you identified well. Then there's that machine, singlehandedly flipped the social order, where females become more dominant, and boost the advancement of technology." "Then suddenly you look at him, he appeared out of nowhere, with no convincing background or relation to other character, cooler than male main character squared despite just as flat in personality, stomp the heroines and stole their heart (and possibly body) with his uberwank machine" "How do you NOT feel angry again? Oh wait, you create him"

2012-02-14, 22:20	Link #22124
Eratas123 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011	@ Senpai - Not defending their actions, mind you. I meant trying to stop someone from killing said abuser even if it's deserved. __________________

2012-02-14, 22:23	Link #22125
ZeroXSEED Jackass Cat Lover Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: SPARTAAAAA!!!!!!	Well, that one is sorta justified per humanly instinct than anything else. __________________ "I.S. Fandom is highly volatile domain filled by jaded readers tired of cliche. They're also especially skeptic to OC, especially male OC" "Why do you ask? Imagine this: look at those, those are a bunch of character you like, bunch of characters you identified well. Then there's that machine, singlehandedly flipped the social order, where females become more dominant, and boost the advancement of technology." "Then suddenly you look at him, he appeared out of nowhere, with no convincing background or relation to other character, cooler than male main character squared despite just as flat in personality, stomp the heroines and stole their heart (and possibly body) with his uberwank machine" "How do you NOT feel angry again? Oh wait, you create him"

2012-02-14, 22:29	Link #22126
Eratas123 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011	@ Senpai - I planned to use it as an ironic echo to show how Irish differs from both the past and present. In the past he defended his almost complete monster dad when he should've been happy he was getting killed while in the present he encourages killing anyone who has a possibility of being a threat. __________________

2012-02-14, 22:33	Link #22127
ZeroXSEED Jackass Cat Lover Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: SPARTAAAAA!!!!!!	Wow, good point. Rin also did pretty much the same thing, Ichika are this close to permanently crippling a girl who... erm, went too far with bullying and almost caused fatal injury in Rin herself. Cue 9 months later and Rin beat the crap out of her when she's not repenting at all. __________________ "I.S. Fandom is highly volatile domain filled by jaded readers tired of cliche. They're also especially skeptic to OC, especially male OC" "Why do you ask? Imagine this: look at those, those are a bunch of character you like, bunch of characters you identified well. Then there's that machine, singlehandedly flipped the social order, where females become more dominant, and boost the advancement of technology." "Then suddenly you look at him, he appeared out of nowhere, with no convincing background or relation to other character, cooler than male main character squared despite just as flat in personality, stomp the heroines and stole their heart (and possibly body) with his uberwank machine" "How do you NOT feel angry again? Oh wait, you create him"

2012-02-14, 22:37	Link #22128
Eratas123 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011	@ Senpai - Hypocrisy is expected when someone's angry or hyped up on teen hormones. Side note - Is it possible for a wide eyed idealist to act like he's somewhat like a cynic? __________________

2012-02-14, 22:42	Link #22129
ZeroXSEED Jackass Cat Lover Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: SPARTAAAAA!!!!!!	Yes, it was possible. As for how, dunno. Maybe doing it by way of sarcasm and being snarky? also, Hypocrisy is expected. __________________ "I.S. Fandom is highly volatile domain filled by jaded readers tired of cliche. They're also especially skeptic to OC, especially male OC" "Why do you ask? Imagine this: look at those, those are a bunch of character you like, bunch of characters you identified well. Then there's that machine, singlehandedly flipped the social order, where females become more dominant, and boost the advancement of technology." "Then suddenly you look at him, he appeared out of nowhere, with no convincing background or relation to other character, cooler than male main character squared despite just as flat in personality, stomp the heroines and stole their heart (and possibly body) with his uberwank machine" "How do you NOT feel angry again? Oh wait, you create him"

2012-02-14, 22:50	Link #22130
Eratas123 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011	@ Senpai - How does one usually get phobia's? Through extended time with the thing you're scared of, or just being born with it. __________________

2012-02-14, 22:52	Link #22131
ZeroXSEED Jackass Cat Lover Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: SPARTAAAAA!!!!!!	Sometimes you developed it after excessive exposure, but sometimes they also caused by one-scene trauma. I don't know about phobia that exist all along :\| __________________ "I.S. Fandom is highly volatile domain filled by jaded readers tired of cliche. They're also especially skeptic to OC, especially male OC" "Why do you ask? Imagine this: look at those, those are a bunch of character you like, bunch of characters you identified well. Then there's that machine, singlehandedly flipped the social order, where females become more dominant, and boost the advancement of technology." "Then suddenly you look at him, he appeared out of nowhere, with no convincing background or relation to other character, cooler than male main character squared despite just as flat in personality, stomp the heroines and stole their heart (and possibly body) with his uberwank machine" "How do you NOT feel angry again? Oh wait, you create him"

2012-02-14, 23:07	Link #22132
Eratas123 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011	@ Senpai - Is it possible for the body to develop a violent reaction when faced with something they're afraid of? __________________

2012-02-14, 23:18	Link #22133
ZeroXSEED Jackass Cat Lover Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: SPARTAAAAA!!!!!!	Yes, there's a blurred line between paralyzed in fear and furiously rebelling. It's mostly due to adrenaline. __________________ "I.S. Fandom is highly volatile domain filled by jaded readers tired of cliche. They're also especially skeptic to OC, especially male OC" "Why do you ask? Imagine this: look at those, those are a bunch of character you like, bunch of characters you identified well. Then there's that machine, singlehandedly flipped the social order, where females become more dominant, and boost the advancement of technology." "Then suddenly you look at him, he appeared out of nowhere, with no convincing background or relation to other character, cooler than male main character squared despite just as flat in personality, stomp the heroines and stole their heart (and possibly body) with his uberwank machine" "How do you NOT feel angry again? Oh wait, you create him"

2012-02-14, 23:28	Link #22134
Eratas123 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011	@'Sempai - So the reaction is unconscious and not of the person's will? __________________

2012-02-14, 23:32	Link #22135
ZeroXSEED Jackass Cat Lover Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: SPARTAAAAA!!!!!!	They act more like subconscious drive indeed, like someone within your brains telling you to fight or flight (run). __________________ "I.S. Fandom is highly volatile domain filled by jaded readers tired of cliche. They're also especially skeptic to OC, especially male OC" "Why do you ask? Imagine this: look at those, those are a bunch of character you like, bunch of characters you identified well. Then there's that machine, singlehandedly flipped the social order, where females become more dominant, and boost the advancement of technology." "Then suddenly you look at him, he appeared out of nowhere, with no convincing background or relation to other character, cooler than male main character squared despite just as flat in personality, stomp the heroines and stole their heart (and possibly body) with his uberwank machine" "How do you NOT feel angry again? Oh wait, you create him"

2012-02-14, 23:38	Link #22136
Eratas123 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011	@ Senpai - How would someone with Gynophobia react to being in physical contact with females, a person afraid of fire coming into contact with fire etc etc? __________________

2012-02-14, 23:45	Link #22137
ZeroXSEED Jackass Cat Lover Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: SPARTAAAAA!!!!!!	Once again, usually three choice: stunned, panic/violence, or run. __________________ "I.S. Fandom is highly volatile domain filled by jaded readers tired of cliche. They're also especially skeptic to OC, especially male OC" "Why do you ask? Imagine this: look at those, those are a bunch of character you like, bunch of characters you identified well. Then there's that machine, singlehandedly flipped the social order, where females become more dominant, and boost the advancement of technology." "Then suddenly you look at him, he appeared out of nowhere, with no convincing background or relation to other character, cooler than male main character squared despite just as flat in personality, stomp the heroines and stole their heart (and possibly body) with his uberwank machine" "How do you NOT feel angry again? Oh wait, you create him"

2012-02-14, 23:48	Link #22138
Eratas123 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011	@ Senpai - Do Ichika and Madoka have any weaknesses or phobias? __________________

2012-02-14, 23:51	Link #22139
ZeroXSEED Jackass Cat Lover Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: SPARTAAAAA!!!!!!	Lesbian for Madoka. As for Ichika, bad food __________________ "I.S. Fandom is highly volatile domain filled by jaded readers tired of cliche. They're also especially skeptic to OC, especially male OC" "Why do you ask? Imagine this: look at those, those are a bunch of character you like, bunch of characters you identified well. Then there's that machine, singlehandedly flipped the social order, where females become more dominant, and boost the advancement of technology." "Then suddenly you look at him, he appeared out of nowhere, with no convincing background or relation to other character, cooler than male main character squared despite just as flat in personality, stomp the heroines and stole their heart (and possibly body) with his uberwank machine" "How do you NOT feel angry again? Oh wait, you create him"

2012-02-15, 00:06	Link #22140
Eratas123 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011	Why's Madoka homophobic? Most people have reasons for being so. __________________