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StratoSpear · 2012-03-25, 02:27

Not unless they resort to other ways to remove evidence.

Maybe something like the flashy-flashy neuralyzer, makes people forget what they were doing or what they saw. etc etc.

Eratas123 · 2012-03-25, 02:59

They're a spec ops team, not the MIB. All they have are guns and other weapons.

ZeroXSEED · 2012-03-25, 03:16

Even if they don't kill the witnesses, they probably secure them and have them keeping secret. So the Gray morality still applies.

Eratas123 · 2012-03-25, 03:23

Isn't a cleanup crew detrimental? If one of them dies, then your secrets blown.

ZeroXSEED · 2012-03-25, 03:27

It's different when we're talking about government or evil corp, the method is different but the goal is the same, saving their own ass. And how is that someone dies your secret blown?

Eratas123 · 2012-03-25, 03:29

Don't clean up crews usually use equipment from the people who us them? If so, then that means every bullet fired could be traced back to them.

ZeroXSEED · 2012-03-25, 03:40

Can you really do that in practice? Considering the abundance of firearms, ad sometimes illegal one, this is a hard thing to do. FYI 1 of 15 gun always have the same bullet fingerprint, and mark identification only effective 30% of the time, sometimes the mark couldn't even identified at all.

Even bullet stamping (that is, numbering every single bullet based on the pistol used) Is ineffective most of the time.

Eratas123 · 2012-03-25, 03:44

Hm, you make a good point

Okay, how about this then: Wouldn't they get suspicious that evidence about this org, and only this org, was destroyed? it'd be like "Okay, let's see if we can- Oh, looks like the info on PT corp was deleted on server A....and B......and C,D,E. .....>WTF?"

ZeroXSEED · 2012-03-25, 03:47

Of course they are suspicious, but clean up doesn't always mean blowing out computer and killing people. Sometimes one person is enough for the job, a hacker, a spy or a mole.

You asked about spec-ops type, you have the answer already

Eratas123 · 2012-03-25, 03:48

What about killing civilians? No suspicion there?

ZeroXSEED · 2012-03-25, 03:52

Even more suspicious.

That's why assaulting/blowing up facility often become last resort, of which will be covered up as accident or terrorist attack (like Resident Evil)

Eratas123 · 2012-03-25, 04:00

Do you think trusting bought mercenaries to be clean up crew is wise?

ZeroXSEED · 2012-03-25, 04:03

Depending on the task itself and the standard of the mercenary.

Eratas123 · 2012-03-25, 04:13

No loyalty issues or anything? Mercenaries are bught, after all.

ZeroXSEED · 2012-03-25, 04:15

I already said depending on their standard. Fictional mercenaries can range from benevolent bunch of warriors and blood knight that do anything for money. Also can range form dedicated soldiers to chronic backstabber.

Eratas123 · 2012-03-25, 04:36

Up to how old can soldiers be before they're forced to retire?

Hasumi · 2012-03-25, 04:37

Facebook and a couple other sites are being douchebags right now.

Such misfortune.

Eratas123 · 2012-03-25, 04:43

@ Box - Yeah, you dropped off there in the middle of our chat.

ZeroXSEED · 2012-03-25, 04:44

@ Eras
Dunno, maybe like 70? 50-60 being standard retirement age after all.

@ Box
Why?

Eratas123 · 2012-03-25, 04:46

Really? Would older soldiers still be placed in regular units or specialized ones due to their advanced age?

His internets' broke.

2012-03-25, 02:27	Link #27121
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Eratas123 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011	They're a spec ops team, not the MIB. All they have are guns and other weapons. __________________

2012-03-25, 03:16	Link #27123
ZeroXSEED Jackass Cat Lover Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: SPARTAAAAA!!!!!!	Even if they don't kill the witnesses, they probably secure them and have them keeping secret. So the Gray morality still applies. __________________ "I.S. Fandom is highly volatile domain filled by jaded readers tired of cliche. They're also especially skeptic to OC, especially male OC" "Why do you ask? Imagine this: look at those, those are a bunch of character you like, bunch of characters you identified well. Then there's that machine, singlehandedly flipped the social order, where females become more dominant, and boost the advancement of technology." "Then suddenly you look at him, he appeared out of nowhere, with no convincing background or relation to other character, cooler than male main character squared despite just as flat in personality, stomp the heroines and stole their heart (and possibly body) with his uberwank machine" "How do you NOT feel angry again? Oh wait, you create him"

2012-03-25, 03:23	Link #27124
Eratas123 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011	Isn't a cleanup crew detrimental? If one of them dies, then your secrets blown. __________________

2012-03-25, 03:27	Link #27125
ZeroXSEED Jackass Cat Lover Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: SPARTAAAAA!!!!!!	It's different when we're talking about government or evil corp, the method is different but the goal is the same, saving their own ass. And how is that someone dies your secret blown? __________________ "I.S. Fandom is highly volatile domain filled by jaded readers tired of cliche. They're also especially skeptic to OC, especially male OC" "Why do you ask? Imagine this: look at those, those are a bunch of character you like, bunch of characters you identified well. Then there's that machine, singlehandedly flipped the social order, where females become more dominant, and boost the advancement of technology." "Then suddenly you look at him, he appeared out of nowhere, with no convincing background or relation to other character, cooler than male main character squared despite just as flat in personality, stomp the heroines and stole their heart (and possibly body) with his uberwank machine" "How do you NOT feel angry again? Oh wait, you create him"

2012-03-25, 03:29	Link #27126
Eratas123 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011	Don't clean up crews usually use equipment from the people who us them? If so, then that means every bullet fired could be traced back to them. __________________

2012-03-25, 03:40	Link #27127
ZeroXSEED Jackass Cat Lover Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: SPARTAAAAA!!!!!!	Can you really do that in practice? Considering the abundance of firearms, ad sometimes illegal one, this is a hard thing to do. FYI 1 of 15 gun always have the same bullet fingerprint, and mark identification only effective 30% of the time, sometimes the mark couldn't even identified at all. Even bullet stamping (that is, numbering every single bullet based on the pistol used) Is ineffective most of the time. __________________ "I.S. Fandom is highly volatile domain filled by jaded readers tired of cliche. They're also especially skeptic to OC, especially male OC" "Why do you ask? Imagine this: look at those, those are a bunch of character you like, bunch of characters you identified well. Then there's that machine, singlehandedly flipped the social order, where females become more dominant, and boost the advancement of technology." "Then suddenly you look at him, he appeared out of nowhere, with no convincing background or relation to other character, cooler than male main character squared despite just as flat in personality, stomp the heroines and stole their heart (and possibly body) with his uberwank machine" "How do you NOT feel angry again? Oh wait, you create him"

2012-03-25, 03:44	Link #27128
Eratas123 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011	Hm, you make a good point Okay, how about this then: Wouldn't they get suspicious that evidence about this org, and only this org, was destroyed? it'd be like "Okay, let's see if we can- Oh, looks like the info on PT corp was deleted on server A....and B......and C,D,E. .....>WTF?" __________________

2012-03-25, 03:47	Link #27129
ZeroXSEED Jackass Cat Lover Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: SPARTAAAAA!!!!!!	Of course they are suspicious, but clean up doesn't always mean blowing out computer and killing people. Sometimes one person is enough for the job, a hacker, a spy or a mole. You asked about spec-ops type, you have the answer already __________________ "I.S. Fandom is highly volatile domain filled by jaded readers tired of cliche. They're also especially skeptic to OC, especially male OC" "Why do you ask? Imagine this: look at those, those are a bunch of character you like, bunch of characters you identified well. Then there's that machine, singlehandedly flipped the social order, where females become more dominant, and boost the advancement of technology." "Then suddenly you look at him, he appeared out of nowhere, with no convincing background or relation to other character, cooler than male main character squared despite just as flat in personality, stomp the heroines and stole their heart (and possibly body) with his uberwank machine" "How do you NOT feel angry again? Oh wait, you create him"

2012-03-25, 03:48	Link #27130
Eratas123 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011	What about killing civilians? No suspicion there? __________________

2012-03-25, 03:52	Link #27131
ZeroXSEED Jackass Cat Lover Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: SPARTAAAAA!!!!!!	Even more suspicious. That's why assaulting/blowing up facility often become last resort, of which will be covered up as accident or terrorist attack (like Resident Evil) __________________ "I.S. Fandom is highly volatile domain filled by jaded readers tired of cliche. They're also especially skeptic to OC, especially male OC" "Why do you ask? Imagine this: look at those, those are a bunch of character you like, bunch of characters you identified well. Then there's that machine, singlehandedly flipped the social order, where females become more dominant, and boost the advancement of technology." "Then suddenly you look at him, he appeared out of nowhere, with no convincing background or relation to other character, cooler than male main character squared despite just as flat in personality, stomp the heroines and stole their heart (and possibly body) with his uberwank machine" "How do you NOT feel angry again? Oh wait, you create him"

2012-03-25, 04:00	Link #27132
Eratas123 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011	Do you think trusting bought mercenaries to be clean up crew is wise? __________________

2012-03-25, 04:03	Link #27133
ZeroXSEED Jackass Cat Lover Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: SPARTAAAAA!!!!!!	Depending on the task itself and the standard of the mercenary. __________________ "I.S. Fandom is highly volatile domain filled by jaded readers tired of cliche. They're also especially skeptic to OC, especially male OC" "Why do you ask? Imagine this: look at those, those are a bunch of character you like, bunch of characters you identified well. Then there's that machine, singlehandedly flipped the social order, where females become more dominant, and boost the advancement of technology." "Then suddenly you look at him, he appeared out of nowhere, with no convincing background or relation to other character, cooler than male main character squared despite just as flat in personality, stomp the heroines and stole their heart (and possibly body) with his uberwank machine" "How do you NOT feel angry again? Oh wait, you create him"

2012-03-25, 04:13	Link #27134
Eratas123 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011	No loyalty issues or anything? Mercenaries are bught, after all. __________________

2012-03-25, 04:15	Link #27135
ZeroXSEED Jackass Cat Lover Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: SPARTAAAAA!!!!!!	I already said depending on their standard. Fictional mercenaries can range from benevolent bunch of warriors and blood knight that do anything for money. Also can range form dedicated soldiers to chronic backstabber. __________________ "I.S. Fandom is highly volatile domain filled by jaded readers tired of cliche. They're also especially skeptic to OC, especially male OC" "Why do you ask? Imagine this: look at those, those are a bunch of character you like, bunch of characters you identified well. Then there's that machine, singlehandedly flipped the social order, where females become more dominant, and boost the advancement of technology." "Then suddenly you look at him, he appeared out of nowhere, with no convincing background or relation to other character, cooler than male main character squared despite just as flat in personality, stomp the heroines and stole their heart (and possibly body) with his uberwank machine" "How do you NOT feel angry again? Oh wait, you create him"

2012-03-25, 04:36	Link #27136
Eratas123 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011	Up to how old can soldiers be before they're forced to retire? __________________

2012-03-25, 04:37	Link #27137
Hasumi 野球は最高！！ Author Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: ホウエン地方	Facebook and a couple other sites are being douchebags right now. Such misfortune.

2012-03-25, 04:43	Link #27138
Eratas123 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011	@ Box - Yeah, you dropped off there in the middle of our chat. __________________

2012-03-25, 04:44	Link #27139
ZeroXSEED Jackass Cat Lover Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: SPARTAAAAA!!!!!!	@ Eras Dunno, maybe like 70? 50-60 being standard retirement age after all. @ Box Why? __________________ "I.S. Fandom is highly volatile domain filled by jaded readers tired of cliche. They're also especially skeptic to OC, especially male OC" "Why do you ask? Imagine this: look at those, those are a bunch of character you like, bunch of characters you identified well. Then there's that machine, singlehandedly flipped the social order, where females become more dominant, and boost the advancement of technology." "Then suddenly you look at him, he appeared out of nowhere, with no convincing background or relation to other character, cooler than male main character squared despite just as flat in personality, stomp the heroines and stole their heart (and possibly body) with his uberwank machine" "How do you NOT feel angry again? Oh wait, you create him"

2012-03-25, 04:46	Link #27140
Eratas123 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011	Really? Would older soldiers still be placed in regular units or specialized ones due to their advanced age? His internets' broke. __________________