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Old 2012-05-17, 09:39   Link #31021
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What about the lack of hands?
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Old 2012-05-17, 09:40   Link #31022
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i believe what zero is trying to say is: what kanzashi is doing is like turning a normal car into a powerful sport car(or something along the line)
it require a drastic makeover of the entire unit

from my knowledge, the unit seems to specialize in long range attack..... including missile masscare.
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Old 2012-05-17, 09:45   Link #31023
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@ Eras
No melee combat natch, but box said something like a halberd.... however that works. BTW, the arms are turned into beam cannons if the artwork is to be believed.

I myself chalk it up to suspension field, and still less powerful than unit with proper arm parts.

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More like turning an offroad car into drag racer.
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Old 2012-05-17, 09:54   Link #31024
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IS can be sold right?
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Old 2012-05-17, 10:00   Link #31025
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Nope. THey belong to the government.
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Old 2012-05-17, 10:04   Link #31026
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Well, corporations or even individuals can sell their frames as long as government approve it. OTOH core trading of all kind is forbidden, even swapping/giving cores probably is prohibited.
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Old 2012-05-17, 10:14   Link #31027
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An IS with an experimental compact anti-matter reactor.(because an OC machine will probably get bashed for having crazy tech). The main purpose of the unit is to see how small they can make it and how much power can it provide.
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Old 2012-05-17, 10:21   Link #31028
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One-offs are gamebreaker attacks. If Kanzashi succeeded, then she would have been able to pull off finishing moves one after another. Imagine Ichika with infinite Reikaru Byakuya.
Where did that come from? I think I've been terribly misunderstood.

You asked what the big problem was, I said the problem was that she was trying to use the Uchigane in a way that it wasn't meant to be used. You didn't understand that, so I used an analogy with how the Rafael Revive's main feature is its Rapid Switch--it would be idiotic to expend those bus slots on a One-off Ability, btw you don't get one use per bus slot expended...Charlotte did mention that Byakushiki has Reiraku Byakuya because "all the bus slots were expended on a One-off Ability".

I hope that clears everything up.
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Old 2012-05-17, 10:24   Link #31029
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Yes, you can trade them as you wish, just remember: no patent unless secretly developed inside I.S.A.
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Old 2012-05-17, 10:27   Link #31030
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@ Box - Kinda, thanks. Not really good with IS research.
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Old 2012-05-17, 10:33   Link #31031
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rapid switch is a function of rafael? I thought it was all charlotte?
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Old 2012-05-17, 10:42   Link #31032
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Need help here for TLR Stratos
1. Which one shown first?
- Some character met before main story (such as Ichika met Lala, as well as how Rito met Laura, both happened 2-3 year before the story began)
- Proceed to main story with the cast intersect and using above as flashback

2. How Ichika met Lala
- She crashed into him when she's running from her pursuer, then Ichika go "White Knighting" as usual.
- She teleported into his bathtub (and the rest is same as above) which is the cast & reaction swap of original scenario
- She teleported into the building Ichika kept captive by his kidnapper.
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Old 2012-05-17, 10:50   Link #31033
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1. Depends on whether you want more exposition first or character interaction.

2. Teleport to kidnapping.
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Old 2012-05-17, 11:57   Link #31034
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Random ideal burst

Short story project (Dream-Catcher is the long story project):
Spoiler for short story:
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Old 2012-05-17, 19:58   Link #31035
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Yes, you can trade them as you wish, just remember: no patent unless secretly developed inside I.S.A.

err.... zero, let me clarify: trade secret is not patent. though you can still sue that guy who reveal the secret because the odds are: he had a contract with you.

a success application of patent, allow you to monoply the technology but it require you to reveal it to the public.

patent wouldn't work in IS because it require you to reveal to the world and patent is mostly region restricted. that's how china manage to patent japanese's bullet train technology and get away with it: because legally speaking, japan did not patent it in china....

edit: and yea.... due to an international treaty, the technology patent by china is vaild in other countries
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Old 2012-05-17, 22:09   Link #31036
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Yes, that's what I meant, once something is mass produced, it's no longer 'secret', but only you have the permission to create that new unit via tech monopoly. What I meant is that if developed outside I.S.A., that rule won't apply anymore.
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Old 2012-05-18, 02:58   Link #31037
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rapid switch is a function of rafael? I thought it was all charlotte?
Well since Yamada also used it, I guess...
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Old 2012-05-18, 05:40   Link #31038
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What if the anti-matter engine I mentioned last night was attatched to Byakushiki to test if it could provide energy even for the most intense of energy guzzlers like Byakushiki Setsura? And for the most part it succeeds?
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Old 2012-05-18, 06:43   Link #31039
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Well since Yamada also used it, I guess...
i hope you are aware that rapid switch is a skill....like partial deployment....

edit: i don't think gen 2 is has special function... they are the boring but practical is
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Old 2012-05-18, 06:49   Link #31040
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That's a game breaker right there

Of course it's SLIGHTLY less problematic if one of the main character get it (at worst the reviewer will call Hax/Unfair), OTOH mount it in an OC machine is asking for trouble.

@ Box
Yes, it's definitely a skill.
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