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ZeroXSEED · 2012-06-07, 19:49

^ Ah sorry, that's me mistyping, I mean mellow spot

The point still stand, and yes, she do just that because A. Gentaro is strong B. He is persistent in engaging enemy, even though he was forbid to C. To prevent collateral damage from action B

demino_hellsin · 2012-06-07, 19:54

A.

B. I'm on the fence with this since he seems to act if he feels that the person can't handle it.

C. Are you sure you don't watch Fourze? =))

ZeroXSEED · 2012-06-07, 19:59

A.

B. Oh, sorry then, not watching Fourze, I assume Gentaro is like Ichika, having Chronic Hero SYndrome.

C. Again, no. But I got that from every Kamen Rider I watch, especially when they're still green and in Joke Forms, officially known as Blank Form. Kamen rider is basically human shaped brick after all.

demino_hellsin · 2012-06-07, 20:03

But Gentarou is certainly the meddling type. He makes it his mission to befriend everyone! Mostly via a rider kick to the face but

He seems to uphold certain codes of honor, so he knows if someone needs to do things by themselves. But at the same time he believes that friendship power answers all... wierd.

ZeroXSEED · 2012-06-07, 20:08

That makes him quite a complex character than archetypical hero though, all kamen rider hero seems to have this kind of conflicting personality

Now I am confused where to put Saruyama, because when he said Europe, I have yet to decide WHICH country he will represent.

BTW, school first, see you later.

Eratas123 · 2012-06-07, 20:08

Good morning everyone

ZeroXSEED · 2012-06-07, 20:42

Morning

Anyway, I just realized, did my drafts strikingly contrast from the description? It really sounds like a crapsack world when I read it again. And if done even more seriously, normal family did not exist.

Eratas123 · 2012-06-07, 22:41

@ Senpai - Teen soldiers tend to invoke crapsack notions.

ZeroXSEED · 2012-06-08, 00:35

The problem is pulling a line between "Dark back-story" and "Dark fic", maybe it's a leftover from writing ST concept, I'll try to put this one as lightly as I can though, so, less slapstick and more like a sitcom.

For example

Spoiler for porn:

Eratas123 · 2012-06-08, 02:24

Yeah, that definitely seems more comedic.

I have a problem. Can you help?

ZeroXSEED · 2012-06-08, 02:35

Go ahead

Eratas123 · 2012-06-08, 02:42

@ Senpai -Black Comedy's funny as long as it's not happening to you.

Anyway, I think I whiplash the mood too much when I write. Example: The start of an arc has Irish and Ichika having to deal with an.....eccentric rich family and being tasked to go to an island to get something. Then the "Insanity" draft picks up on what happens there.

ZeroXSEED · 2012-06-08, 02:46

Nah, the Shadow cover both the light side of youngster's life and the crapsack world they're in. Besides, its was mostly Irish' segment, who is dark to begin with.

Eratas123 · 2012-06-08, 02:52

I meant that it seems formula now. In every draft I do it tends to be: "Wacky event starts, plot happens, dark segment, the end." I'm copying the novels in cliche setup:/

ZeroXSEED · 2012-06-08, 02:56

^ D'oh

How about having a recovery arc, as in, a realistic transition between the dark moment to the normal situation. So, no "Well Cecilia is injured, let's return back to harem antic",

Eratas123 · 2012-06-08, 02:59

How do I do that?

ZeroXSEED · 2012-06-08, 03:12

Hmm, I dunno, it's really how you put it. I can give some pointer though

First, Irish was greatly injured by that point, and Ichika would be very cautious, the girls will wonder what happened (assuming they don't know) and of course is worried about Ichika. This situation will go until Irish recover, and the whole situation settled down.

Eratas123 · 2012-06-08, 03:46

Both of them are injured since the two of them are the one who went. They had to do it to get Ichika out of his arranged marriage (long story).

Side note - Would a club of Yaoi fangirls be a legitimate club?

DarkJak2050 · 2012-06-08, 03:54

Here come some more!

IS Byakuya no Tsubasa

Phantoms of the Past

Fata Morgana (Crossover with Naruto)

ZeroXSEED · 2012-06-08, 04:05

@ Eras
Nah, probably disguised as manga club or something

2012-06-07, 19:49	Link #32021
ZeroXSEED Jackass Cat Lover Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: SPARTAAAAA!!!!!!	^ Ah sorry, that's me mistyping, I mean mellow spot The point still stand, and yes, she do just that because A. Gentaro is strong B. He is persistent in engaging enemy, even though he was forbid to C. To prevent collateral damage from action B __________________ "I.S. Fandom is highly volatile domain filled by jaded readers tired of cliche. They're also especially skeptic to OC, especially male OC" "Why do you ask? Imagine this: look at those, those are a bunch of character you like, bunch of characters you identified well. Then there's that machine, singlehandedly flipped the social order, where females become more dominant, and boost the advancement of technology." "Then suddenly you look at him, he appeared out of nowhere, with no convincing background or relation to other character, cooler than male main character squared despite just as flat in personality, stomp the heroines and stole their heart (and possibly body) with his uberwank machine" "How do you NOT feel angry again? Oh wait, you create him"

2012-06-07, 19:59	Link #32023
ZeroXSEED Jackass Cat Lover Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: SPARTAAAAA!!!!!!	A. B. Oh, sorry then, not watching Fourze, I assume Gentaro is like Ichika, having Chronic Hero SYndrome. C. Again, no. But I got that from every Kamen Rider I watch, especially when they're still green and in Joke Forms, officially known as Blank Form. Kamen rider is basically human shaped brick after all. __________________ "I.S. Fandom is highly volatile domain filled by jaded readers tired of cliche. They're also especially skeptic to OC, especially male OC" "Why do you ask? Imagine this: look at those, those are a bunch of character you like, bunch of characters you identified well. Then there's that machine, singlehandedly flipped the social order, where females become more dominant, and boost the advancement of technology." "Then suddenly you look at him, he appeared out of nowhere, with no convincing background or relation to other character, cooler than male main character squared despite just as flat in personality, stomp the heroines and stole their heart (and possibly body) with his uberwank machine" "How do you NOT feel angry again? Oh wait, you create him"

2012-06-07, 20:08	Link #32025
ZeroXSEED Jackass Cat Lover Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: SPARTAAAAA!!!!!!	That makes him quite a complex character than archetypical hero though, all kamen rider hero seems to have this kind of conflicting personality Now I am confused where to put Saruyama, because when he said Europe, I have yet to decide WHICH country he will represent. BTW, school first, see you later. __________________ "I.S. Fandom is highly volatile domain filled by jaded readers tired of cliche. They're also especially skeptic to OC, especially male OC" "Why do you ask? Imagine this: look at those, those are a bunch of character you like, bunch of characters you identified well. Then there's that machine, singlehandedly flipped the social order, where females become more dominant, and boost the advancement of technology." "Then suddenly you look at him, he appeared out of nowhere, with no convincing background or relation to other character, cooler than male main character squared despite just as flat in personality, stomp the heroines and stole their heart (and possibly body) with his uberwank machine" "How do you NOT feel angry again? Oh wait, you create him"

2012-06-07, 20:08	Link #32026
Eratas123 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011	Good morning everyone __________________

2012-06-07, 20:42	Link #32027
ZeroXSEED Jackass Cat Lover Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: SPARTAAAAA!!!!!!	Morning Anyway, I just realized, did my drafts strikingly contrast from the description? It really sounds like a crapsack world when I read it again. And if done even more seriously, normal family did not exist. __________________ "I.S. Fandom is highly volatile domain filled by jaded readers tired of cliche. They're also especially skeptic to OC, especially male OC" "Why do you ask? Imagine this: look at those, those are a bunch of character you like, bunch of characters you identified well. Then there's that machine, singlehandedly flipped the social order, where females become more dominant, and boost the advancement of technology." "Then suddenly you look at him, he appeared out of nowhere, with no convincing background or relation to other character, cooler than male main character squared despite just as flat in personality, stomp the heroines and stole their heart (and possibly body) with his uberwank machine" "How do you NOT feel angry again? Oh wait, you create him" Last edited by ZeroXSEED; 2012-06-07 at 21:03.

2012-06-07, 19:54	Link #32022
demino_hellsin That one guy Join Date: Nov 2011	A. B. I'm on the fence with this since he seems to act if he feels that the person can't handle it. C. Are you sure you don't watch Fourze? =))

2012-06-07, 20:03	Link #32024
demino_hellsin That one guy Join Date: Nov 2011	But Gentarou is certainly the meddling type. He makes it his mission to befriend everyone! Mostly via a rider kick to the face but He seems to uphold certain codes of honor, so he knows if someone needs to do things by themselves. But at the same time he believes that friendship power answers all... wierd.

2012-06-07, 22:41	Link #32028
Eratas123 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011	@ Senpai - Teen soldiers tend to invoke crapsack notions. __________________

2012-06-08, 00:35	Link #32029
ZeroXSEED Jackass Cat Lover Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: SPARTAAAAA!!!!!!	The problem is pulling a line between "Dark back-story" and "Dark fic", maybe it's a leftover from writing ST concept, I'll try to put this one as lightly as I can though, so, less slapstick and more like a sitcom. For example Spoiler for porn: "So, what are we going to do" Saruyama chuckled as the shade covering his face getting darker and darker, much to everyone's concern, and then in a split second, he flipped a pair of DVD cases with questionable cover. "Asshole!" Rito exclaimed, knowing what will happen, but alas Len and Dan restrained him very quickly. In spite being the most skilled of all male cadet, two other cadet is no slouch either, and combined they easily subdue him. "Hey, both of you... isn't that a little too cruel" Ichika asked worriedly. "Could it be possibly that you're not into girls?" Charles smirked sinisterly, which get a swift retaliation "Speak of yourself, fairy. I won't run, but I won't guarantee about passing out" "I guess that would be acceptable condition" Ichika said while pointed at Motemitsu "now there's no need for rope right, senpai?" The older guy just said "Aw shit" "So what are we watching?" Len asked curiously, not like he's really excited, merely curious. Just like always, he kept his blood pressure down for this kind of thing unlike the hedgehog-boy that is Rito. "BDSM" Saruyama replied flatly "SCREW YOU!" everyone is set on that opinion firmly. "I'm just kidding damn it" __________________ "I.S. Fandom is highly volatile domain filled by jaded readers tired of cliche. They're also especially skeptic to OC, especially male OC" "Why do you ask? Imagine this: look at those, those are a bunch of character you like, bunch of characters you identified well. Then there's that machine, singlehandedly flipped the social order, where females become more dominant, and boost the advancement of technology." "Then suddenly you look at him, he appeared out of nowhere, with no convincing background or relation to other character, cooler than male main character squared despite just as flat in personality, stomp the heroines and stole their heart (and possibly body) with his uberwank machine" "How do you NOT feel angry again? Oh wait, you create him" Last edited by ZeroXSEED; 2012-06-08 at 01:07.

2012-06-08, 02:24	Link #32030
Eratas123 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011	Yeah, that definitely seems more comedic. I have a problem. Can you help? __________________

2012-06-08, 02:35	Link #32031
ZeroXSEED Jackass Cat Lover Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: SPARTAAAAA!!!!!!	Go ahead __________________ "I.S. Fandom is highly volatile domain filled by jaded readers tired of cliche. They're also especially skeptic to OC, especially male OC" "Why do you ask? Imagine this: look at those, those are a bunch of character you like, bunch of characters you identified well. Then there's that machine, singlehandedly flipped the social order, where females become more dominant, and boost the advancement of technology." "Then suddenly you look at him, he appeared out of nowhere, with no convincing background or relation to other character, cooler than male main character squared despite just as flat in personality, stomp the heroines and stole their heart (and possibly body) with his uberwank machine" "How do you NOT feel angry again? Oh wait, you create him"

2012-06-08, 02:42	Link #32032
Eratas123 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011	@ Senpai -Black Comedy's funny as long as it's not happening to you. Anyway, I think I whiplash the mood too much when I write. Example: The start of an arc has Irish and Ichika having to deal with an.....eccentric rich family and being tasked to go to an island to get something. Then the "Insanity" draft picks up on what happens there. __________________

2012-06-08, 02:46	Link #32033
ZeroXSEED Jackass Cat Lover Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: SPARTAAAAA!!!!!!	Nah, the Shadow cover both the light side of youngster's life and the crapsack world they're in. Besides, its was mostly Irish' segment, who is dark to begin with. __________________ "I.S. Fandom is highly volatile domain filled by jaded readers tired of cliche. They're also especially skeptic to OC, especially male OC" "Why do you ask? Imagine this: look at those, those are a bunch of character you like, bunch of characters you identified well. Then there's that machine, singlehandedly flipped the social order, where females become more dominant, and boost the advancement of technology." "Then suddenly you look at him, he appeared out of nowhere, with no convincing background or relation to other character, cooler than male main character squared despite just as flat in personality, stomp the heroines and stole their heart (and possibly body) with his uberwank machine" "How do you NOT feel angry again? Oh wait, you create him"

2012-06-08, 02:52	Link #32034
Eratas123 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011	I meant that it seems formula now. In every draft I do it tends to be: "Wacky event starts, plot happens, dark segment, the end." I'm copying the novels in cliche setup:/ __________________

2012-06-08, 02:56	Link #32035
ZeroXSEED Jackass Cat Lover Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: SPARTAAAAA!!!!!!	^ D'oh How about having a recovery arc, as in, a realistic transition between the dark moment to the normal situation. So, no "Well Cecilia is injured, let's return back to harem antic", __________________ "I.S. Fandom is highly volatile domain filled by jaded readers tired of cliche. They're also especially skeptic to OC, especially male OC" "Why do you ask? Imagine this: look at those, those are a bunch of character you like, bunch of characters you identified well. Then there's that machine, singlehandedly flipped the social order, where females become more dominant, and boost the advancement of technology." "Then suddenly you look at him, he appeared out of nowhere, with no convincing background or relation to other character, cooler than male main character squared despite just as flat in personality, stomp the heroines and stole their heart (and possibly body) with his uberwank machine" "How do you NOT feel angry again? Oh wait, you create him"

2012-06-08, 02:59	Link #32036
Eratas123 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011	How do I do that? __________________

2012-06-08, 03:12	Link #32037
ZeroXSEED Jackass Cat Lover Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: SPARTAAAAA!!!!!!	Hmm, I dunno, it's really how you put it. I can give some pointer though First, Irish was greatly injured by that point, and Ichika would be very cautious, the girls will wonder what happened (assuming they don't know) and of course is worried about Ichika. This situation will go until Irish recover, and the whole situation settled down. __________________ "I.S. Fandom is highly volatile domain filled by jaded readers tired of cliche. They're also especially skeptic to OC, especially male OC" "Why do you ask? Imagine this: look at those, those are a bunch of character you like, bunch of characters you identified well. Then there's that machine, singlehandedly flipped the social order, where females become more dominant, and boost the advancement of technology." "Then suddenly you look at him, he appeared out of nowhere, with no convincing background or relation to other character, cooler than male main character squared despite just as flat in personality, stomp the heroines and stole their heart (and possibly body) with his uberwank machine" "How do you NOT feel angry again? Oh wait, you create him"

2012-06-08, 03:46	Link #32038
Eratas123 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011	Both of them are injured since the two of them are the one who went. They had to do it to get Ichika out of his arranged marriage (long story). Side note - Would a club of Yaoi fangirls be a legitimate club? __________________

2012-06-08, 03:54	Link #32039
DarkJak2050 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2011	Here come some more! IS Byakuya no Tsubasa Phantoms of the Past Fata Morgana (Crossover with Naruto)

2012-06-08, 04:05	Link #32040
ZeroXSEED Jackass Cat Lover Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: SPARTAAAAA!!!!!!	@ Eras Nah, probably disguised as manga club or something __________________ "I.S. Fandom is highly volatile domain filled by jaded readers tired of cliche. They're also especially skeptic to OC, especially male OC" "Why do you ask? Imagine this: look at those, those are a bunch of character you like, bunch of characters you identified well. Then there's that machine, singlehandedly flipped the social order, where females become more dominant, and boost the advancement of technology." "Then suddenly you look at him, he appeared out of nowhere, with no convincing background or relation to other character, cooler than male main character squared despite just as flat in personality, stomp the heroines and stole their heart (and possibly body) with his uberwank machine" "How do you NOT feel angry again? Oh wait, you create him"