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Old 2012-06-22, 23:38   Link #32821
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Rain already used it far before everyone else, and yes, though the character in question is Gary stu, the deep plot and characterization makes up for it.
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Old 2012-06-22, 23:44   Link #32822
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Okay, what is the regular age for high school in Japan? I know grade skipping isn't allowed, but anime varies this from 15-18.
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Old 2012-06-22, 23:49   Link #32823
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the one that ran a power armor?
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Old 2012-06-23, 00:07   Link #32824
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@ Eras
For the record, the first year is either 15 or 16, so your age range is correct.

@ Demi
They have barrier-generating armor, with flight capable wings, and wound healing nanomachines. No robotic super strength, sure, but still.
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Old 2012-06-23, 00:31   Link #32825
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I was thinking more along the lines of a SWAT team.

Basically they're only useful when they have the strategic advantage. In most other cases, they can work as a minor annoyance to semi-legit threat.
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Old 2012-06-23, 00:33   Link #32826
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A Swat team would get owned:/
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Old 2012-06-23, 00:40   Link #32827
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Remember all that infantry equipment I was working on about 50 pages back? They're armed with those :|

Or at least similar types of equipment
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Old 2012-06-23, 00:45   Link #32828
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As you claimed, their technical usefulness is questionable (can range from acceptable challenge to minor pest). As long as the unit is cost efficient (in both resources and manpower) I don't see them not deployed given the chance, at least until friendly I.S. came into rescue. They act more like a restraining web than anything else.
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Old 2012-06-23, 00:47   Link #32829
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In other words: Meat Shield.
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Old 2012-06-23, 00:51   Link #32830
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I'm thinking of developing it as a story element to future IS works. Basically the government already started this project since the founding of ISA. With Batman mentality, they feared the possibility of rogue IS so they began to create a countermeasure force. Due to the constraints in cash since this is supposed to be a confidential project, limited funds were allocated to it.

In current IS, it seems IS related incidents are occurring a lot. It comes to a point that the even the government can't ignore it any longer so they deploy these troops the next time an IS incident happens.

Their main concern is safety of civilians as well as repelling the rogue unit for proper IS to take down. However, if the attacker continues, they are to take it down at all costs.
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Old 2012-06-23, 00:57   Link #32831
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@ Eras
Exactly

@ Demi
Mina is a bit different that it applies to virtually any unit, police special forces, infantry platoon or squad of fighter jet has no difference. Hilariously, they ARE more effective than a bunch of cadet rep without their I.S. (Natasha, that means you). In spite of claim that one cadet rep equal to entire military unit (mostly truth but not always)

Army Corporal: "Dude, we're friggin armed forces, we learn from our defeat instead of being a bunch of idiots toting infantry peashooter uselessly without using tactic whatsoever"

A direct take that to the canon of course
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Old 2012-06-23, 01:00   Link #32832
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It really doesn't help that 9/10 pilots there are 15 on average.
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Old 2012-06-23, 01:01   Link #32833
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@zero: So they used standard ordnance?
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Old 2012-06-23, 01:06   Link #32834
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Yes, mostly upscaled and use what gained from I.S. research to improve their effectiveness

The smallest stuff is 20mm Incendiary, and that's mostly to distract enemy than taking it down. (because duh, that's their role ) All-directional explosive/shrapnel weapon is never used, since they are useless.

HEAT or HESH on vehicle cannon however still a viable choice since they tend to knock out I.S. unit by sheer impact alone.
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Old 2012-06-23, 01:15   Link #32835
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20mm indicates that's not a handheld weapon or useable by one hand if ever... or are you telling me they can tote 30mm rifles?

An intriguing thought. An IS that uses oldstyle guns and beats Cecilia in a shoot out... basing her defeat on relying too much on the weapon's advancement but not really knowing how to push its limits and use its strong points.
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Old 2012-06-23, 01:24   Link #32836
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No, I was talking about this guy

and his younger, bigger brother (25mm caliber)

Or you can just go straight to standard 40mm grenade.

And of course, shoulder launcher weapon

It doesn't always have to be Cecilia, though I do just that with Madoka's case in Sacred Twins (Chapter 5). She's using melee, land based Kurogane armed with Gen-2 weapon. In a subversion, as soon as Cecilia took it seriously, Madoka is utterly hard pressed
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Old 2012-06-23, 01:31   Link #32837
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Does everybody but Ichika have a roommate?
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Old 2012-06-23, 01:34   Link #32838
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Yeah, they did.
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Old 2012-06-23, 01:37   Link #32839
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They really have such big cartridges? O.o? Also... the first one is basically 2 guns put together? caliber and ammo types please?

I also considered it being 2 on 1 with Cecilia and Charlotte versus that guy.
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Old 2012-06-23, 01:38   Link #32840
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Can Kanzashi summon her IS?
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