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Old 2012-06-30, 23:24   Link #33361
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Anybody here?
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Old 2012-07-01, 00:16   Link #33362
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*Age hiding from Laser Sight from Eratas*

Damn Turrets.... trying to trick me again.....

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Btw, I need a manly unisex name.....

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Making him not human, but an IS in human form. She is intrigued by the fact he can pilot an IS.
Guess I will have to up the ante.....

*Age shurgged*

Yea.... and I love irony too....

Moar edit:

Should I make an extremely complicated hidden sub-plot/conspiracy? Complicated enough to reach mind-screw level?
(Complicated enough that I have to draw up a chart to show how each is link to each other...)

Excuse for it: gambit pileup due to multiple people plotting against each other behind the scene.
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Old 2012-07-01, 00:45   Link #33363
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Refer to type-moon and arksys for mindscrew levels of plot. Well when you get to the good products anyway. There's also the makers of SMT for that too.
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Old 2012-07-01, 00:50   Link #33364
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@ Manly unisex name: Alex. Sam. Etc etc.

Side note - Looking at specs, I think Fighter planes can take out 2nd gen IS'
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Old 2012-07-01, 00:51   Link #33365
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Yes, they very well can.
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Old 2012-07-01, 01:14   Link #33366
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Ace Combat in particular is making me have second thoughts about IS strength.
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Old 2012-07-01, 01:27   Link #33367
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the greatest advantage of IS is the ability to make crazy sharp turns. try with ace combat and you should notice the limited turning angle
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Old 2012-07-01, 01:43   Link #33368
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Not in Assault Horizon you don't Also, Zero has you do Air Jousting, which takes a high level of skill.
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Old 2012-07-01, 01:55   Link #33369
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how tight is the turn?

if you talk about air joust, you need to take down the IS in that instant. Because the IS can turn a 180 and start return fire immediately
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Old 2012-07-01, 02:01   Link #33370
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Once again I refer to their impotent weaponry, and their fragile chassis. As Demi said it's impossible to out-turn I.S.

I'm not a fan of "I.S. curbstomp everything and is unstoppable by conventional weaponry" stuff, but neither the easy path.

In case of planes, try those of Ace Combat 3 (Jet fighter refitted with 2030s tech), watch hell poured down by planes that can go supersonic in less than 15 second. And that still not enough for 1 vs 1 combat, more like 1 vs 20 or something.

Air jousting in Zero? that took literally TWO kilometers combat radius, which borderline impossible in real life, but still no match for I.S.

The planes from Macross plus onwards will have better chance (They have similar mobility and maneuverability of I.S., at least)
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Old 2012-07-01, 02:07   Link #33371
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The only 2nd gens with long range capabilities are the Rafael, and even then those aren't very good for high speed chases. Every othe 2nd gen is shown to be pure mlee. 3rd gen's are too strong to take.

SIde note - Form some of the video's, I've seen some do near 180's.
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Old 2012-07-01, 02:13   Link #33372
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Nah, I play almost all series except 4 and Assault Horizon (yes I play the pathetic excuse of Ace Combat Advance as well), and being a maniac of aviation I do know how that works.

(It's really problematic to fight that god forsaken Pixy in 'ordinary' Su-37, but I somehow manage it)

Still, 20 Morgan against single I.S. will be living hell for the latter, because laser weapon range of that size is hundreds of kilometers. I'll refer again to Laura's description that Panzerkannone's 20 km effective range is considered remarkable, that's BELOW real life artillery's capability.
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Old 2012-07-01, 02:17   Link #33373
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Pixy was damn ridiculous in that final fight:/ The music and quotes took off the annoyance, though. Still, Air Jousting is suicidal in real life.
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Old 2012-07-01, 02:26   Link #33374
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real life jets winning against IS aren't that farfetched. You just need a really well coordinated team of fighters or the IS pilot is a complete noob in combat
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Old 2012-07-01, 02:31   Link #33375
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Except that modern AAM and vulcan is useless.

What you'll use against them again? Antitank missile? Too slow and unreliable. large autocannon? Nah, you can't mount that in a fighter.

If I.S. pilot is a noob however, just ram straight and kill her with resulting impact to the ground. Sacrifice is optional (you always have that ejection system)
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Old 2012-07-01, 02:32   Link #33376
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In real life, the IS would be so damn impractical and outlandish that they wouldn't exist.

Senpai - Is turning Autumn into a complete monster plausible?
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Old 2012-07-01, 02:39   Link #33377
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I don't see any reason why she CAN'T be one. Being Insane Card Carrying Villain and all.
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Old 2012-07-01, 02:50   Link #33378
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Yeah, the card carrying bugged me. As the sayng goes, "Evil men never see themselves as evil". The only one's who say they're evil are saturday morning villains and people who are "born of evil".
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Old 2012-07-01, 02:56   Link #33379
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There are also cases of heroes who decide to stop being heroes you know.
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Old 2012-07-01, 02:56   Link #33380
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That's why I add Insane in the front.

Taken to a hilarious extent in TLR Stratos, Madoka of all people, said that Autumn and Squall is untrustworthy. This in spite of Phantom Task being Anti-heroes, not a terrorist but secret Mobile Force work directly under the order of United Nations (at first, until the reveal that it's been conquered by FNC, harsher in hindsight indeed)
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