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Old 2012-07-16, 08:06   Link #34121
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Alright, that means law enforcement won't be changed much.

Side note - Does Charlotte have a dark side? Two guys were flirting with her and she immediately starts imagining killing them with the Revive at least 4 different ways in her head. Seriously, WTF.
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Old 2012-07-16, 08:07   Link #34122
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Can he even hit that speed if he's packing that much heat? O.o?
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Old 2012-07-16, 08:13   Link #34123
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@ Eras
It's already present ever since V2, when Laura kissed Ichika. Anime of course, omit that scene, which result in the Char-worship we know today.

@ Demi
Yes, he can. There's... problem with stability, but the route itself wasn't that complex and that's where raw power of the unit came handy.

(In allusion to a scene above, Ichika and Charles made Rito struck midway, stalling him for several minutes instead of destroying him)
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Old 2012-07-16, 08:19   Link #34124
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It did? Lemme read that scene again.

Going to catch some zzz's now. Catch ya laters.
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Old 2012-07-16, 08:20   Link #34125
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so he has no problem in cornering at mach 1-1.2? Well considering he did train for years >.>
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Old 2012-07-16, 08:31   Link #34126
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Well, the unit does have problem in cornering, as judged by it's 150 meter (?!) turn radius, as opposed to less than 30 meter for normal I.S.es. That's where size and mass does matter, PIC be damned.

EDIT: Though at the cost of speed, it can be reduced to 75 m in humanoid form.

Still, it has far larger room to move in the sky, compared to 300-500 meter enclosed arena.

Rito himself doesn't want to use that unit altogether in the first place (He wanted to use the smaller one), it's because of Tatenashi urging him that he just gave up and play along.
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Old 2012-07-16, 08:41   Link #34127
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Problem is all the units can turn the corner that much faster than him then. If you do apply this then nobody would notice except those with intimate knowledge on exactly what these guys are piloting.
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Old 2012-07-16, 08:49   Link #34128
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Exactly, which is the reason he stuck on the ocean as Charles and Ichika do a feint maneuver and smack him downward (Charles is far inferior pilot, but he is smarter), and thus continue the race 'naked' after dematerializing his damaged armor as his I.S. is designed with modular armor in mind (so stripping them mid battle is no problem)

Mind you, this won't happen if only the race happened at high altitude. The route is made so even ground-type I.S. has a chance.
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Old 2012-07-16, 09:11   Link #34129
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In a scenario in my head, why do I feel like I'd be making Gentarou too much of an unsung hero?

M's rampage causes damage to the city as her shots at Cecilia end up becoming stray fire. Gentarou protects the civs who are caught in the collateral. He's trying to get close to M to engage in close combat and she starts concentrating on him in full earnest when she notices that he's taking her shots but not going down despite clearly being effective. Then Ichika swoops in and distracts her enough so Gentarou can quickly close the gap. Ichika tends to Cecilia while Gentarou is probably having his ass handed to him since he hasn't figured out that distance works against him in a fight against IS.
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Old 2012-07-16, 09:18   Link #34130
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*Shrug*

From what I saw in your concepts, Gentarou get the most action, but Ichika granted most of the credit in universe. This put both of them in a bad place to be honest, since that makes your fic "Kamen Rider Fourze and his new gang"

I know you really want to avoid that, just think something that doesn't discredit the larger cast.
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Old 2012-07-16, 09:24   Link #34131
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I was thinking whether Ichika would prioritize fighting M or getting Cecilia help first. If the former then he'd be alongside Gentarou, kicking butt! Or getting their asses handed to them. Maybe even mistake Gentarou for an enemy and start a 3-way fight. Either which way really
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Old 2012-07-16, 09:29   Link #34132
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Knowing Ichika, he will help Cecil first and THEN ask Gentarou if he's an enemy too, Gentarou will reply just straightforwardly. Whatever the answer determine the result.
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Old 2012-07-16, 09:39   Link #34133
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So would Ichika take her away from the battlefield first?
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Old 2012-07-16, 09:41   Link #34134
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Highly probable.
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Old 2012-07-16, 09:43   Link #34135
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Hmm...

So overall the plot I can still keep this initial fight stable, but it's more in favor of showing off Fourze because the opening initially follows the actual story. And I remember most of the cast thrashed pretty badly. Within the week, an Infinite Cosmos is activated so... crud

Cecilia and Rin would probably be the only ones out of commission though.
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Old 2012-07-16, 10:12   Link #34136
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Up to you.

I sidelined some character in less important fight, or making a new one if it's important. For example, Dan and Saruyama taking over the fight against Golem I. During Silver Gospel, another alien attack occurs so the gang has to split.
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Old 2012-07-16, 18:26   Link #34137
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Does Charlotte have a dark side? Two guys were flirting with her and she immediately starts imagining killing them with the Revive at least 4 different ways in her head. Seriously, WTF.
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It's already present ever since V2, when Laura kissed Ichika. Anime of course, omit that scene, which result in the Char-worship we know today.
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It did? Lemme read that scene again.

Going to catch some zzz's now. Catch ya laters.
Here. It's to save you the trouble of looking.

Spoiler for Light Novel Vol 2 Ch. 4:
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Old 2012-07-16, 18:37   Link #34138
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That's, gentlemen. Char are more than meets the eye.
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Old 2012-07-16, 18:46   Link #34139
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And that's not all!

Spoiler for Light Novel Vol. 5 Ch. 1:
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Old 2012-07-16, 18:50   Link #34140
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Yeah, I knew, this part apparently pissed off few of her dedicated fan, such as Blitz
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