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Old 2012-08-19, 05:56   Link #35741
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No, I mean one's role in society

Honestly, until I saw her do her job OUTSIDE I.S.A., IN GREAT DETAIL, I'll just use that justification.

Considering Izuru? Never.
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Old 2012-08-19, 05:59   Link #35742
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She says that her family's "A Secret organization who fights another evil secret organization". That gave me the impression that she does work outside ISA. Well, that and her ridiculous repertoire of skills.
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Old 2012-08-19, 06:06   Link #35743
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Government don't want to do the dirty job, which mean technically illegal but get a free pass.

If not that, then mafia, which mean working under the radar, then it's vigilantism organization scale.
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Old 2012-08-19, 06:08   Link #35744
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Spoiler for testing:
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Old 2012-08-19, 06:10   Link #35745
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@ Demi - When are you gonna post that?

@ Senpai - Personal question: Do you believe in the Pay Evil Unto Evil trope?
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Old 2012-08-19, 06:12   Link #35746
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No, I believe in karma.
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Old 2012-08-19, 06:18   Link #35747
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Until I am happy with it. I've been writing and rewriting it since forever. >.>

Most stuff I write only finish in one sitting. Sometimes 4 hours and sometimes the whole day. But I don't know why I find this so difficult to express.
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Old 2012-08-19, 06:18   Link #35748
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Karma doesn't always come (Hence Karma Houdini). Anyway, how rich is the cast? I know Laura has thousands, if not millions, of Euro's on her and that Tatenashi/Kanzashi and Cecilia are well off, but nothing else.
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Old 2012-08-19, 06:25   Link #35749
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I dunno, but average Japanese is far richer than people everywhere else.
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Old 2012-08-19, 06:26   Link #35750
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How much do they make as reps anyway?
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Old 2012-08-19, 08:54   Link #35751
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@ Demi & Stratos
...actually, since there's gravity, it's even worse.

Assuming Minerva is 200 kg with PIC active, to accelerate at 2 g (very conservative number) you will need 500 kW x 10 x 200 = 200.000 kW, more than most large Nuclear Powerplant can give, that includes theoretical fusion reactor.
Okay... Now I see why you don't include numbers in stories...
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Old 2012-08-19, 09:16   Link #35752
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I use handwave sometimes as well, don't let tech interfere. Hell, even Index author took liberties in a lot of things in his new light novel, Heavy Object, in spite of it being a hardass man-on-real robot action in the vein of Bolo.

In mine, all I.S. are using hybrid engines. The mostly inert fuel is made excited by injecting certain amount of electricity, then sprayed in gas form where it'll react with oxygen violently and resulting far higher thrust than conventional engines of same model. The idea is embraced by Gundam Seed writer forum as the most likely explanation of long-endurance propulsion.

I did use number, but even the basic theory is all bullshit.
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Old 2012-08-19, 10:23   Link #35753
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Guess I'll resort to that then. At the very least, I want to make the Minerva almost completely different from an IS.

While the IS uses invisible propulsion, the Minerva(if animated) would have dense particle streams spewing out of its thrusters (ala Gundams in Gundam 00)
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Old 2012-08-19, 10:39   Link #35754
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Why not just say it's flying off particle accelerators?
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Old 2012-08-19, 10:45   Link #35755
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Not sure... Guess I didn't really know the name of the equipment that propels the particles.

Now I do, though. Linear particle accelerators, powered by the fusion reactors themselves which also generate the particles used for propulsion.
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Old 2012-08-19, 10:59   Link #35756
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Then it's really plasma propulsion, BTW, nuclear turbojet is horrifically powerful propulsion in itself. Nuclear propulsion superheating the air (or propellant when in space) with waste heat vented form the reactor rather than igniting fuel. It use the heat to it's advantage (never 100% efficient though).

Too bad no visible particle if you use non-gundam reactor.
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Old 2012-08-19, 11:17   Link #35757
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But the reactors and the accelerators are separate. As in, the reactors generate the charged particles that would also be used as the propellant as well as the energy to power the accelerators.
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Old 2012-08-19, 11:18   Link #35758
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Hmm, I see... well, just consider it if you want to be more real-robot-ish.



Basically like this, but with smaller reactor (yes it's real)

1. Nuclear reactor (in this picture, fission)
2. heat exchanger pipes
3. whatever engine you wanted to use (in this picture, turbojets)
3a. Reaction mass injector if necessary.
4. profit

Project documentation for great justice

Running out of juice, call it a nite guys.
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Old 2012-08-19, 11:34   Link #35759
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I briefly looked through the documentation, guess ramjet type seem to be the closest there is.

Thing is there'll be no visible inlet on Minerva's armor (except those used for ventilation) since all the stuffs (particle propellant, power source, particle accelerator) are built in and is connected to the network of reactor in other parts of the Minerva.

Also, turning in for now. Need a clearer mind before writing things out.
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Old 2012-08-19, 20:07   Link #35760
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Okay then, as I said there's no limit in taking liberties, that includes tech wise.

The same system is used by virtually all [Supreme Packets] (Dendrobium-esque addons for I.S.)in Crossover verse, since reactor heat is more valuable than the power output itself. The engine can be anything, from plain old rocket to multi-atmospheric SABRE.

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A slight change of topic: a supercarrier or several small carrier, which one is better?
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