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Old 2012-11-24, 07:28   Link #38321
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^ *Shrug*

Not my specialty, maybe Hawke knew.

Though, RPG protagonist hardly forgiving sometimes.
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Old 2012-11-24, 07:38   Link #38322
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How loud are silenced guns in real life anyway?
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Old 2012-11-24, 08:20   Link #38323
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Ever heard of punctured tires?
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Old 2012-11-24, 09:14   Link #38324
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I.S. has aerodynamic properties of a blimp, which means... well...
I suppose that means anti-grav and PIC magic won't help at all? Let alone weaponry effectiveness...
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Old 2012-11-24, 09:26   Link #38325
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Nah, it was backwards actually, PIC made it worse because it reduce unit's inertial mass so much that it's possibly as heavy as the surrounding air, hence I equated I.S. to a blimp.
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Old 2012-11-24, 20:16   Link #38326
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How loud are silenced guns in real life anyway?
- Depends on the type of gun, ammo used, ETC. Most are not really silent, just reduced in sound. Most people who have never fired a real gun in their lives have no idea how LOUD they are. Silencers generally work best if it's in a loud area (like a battlefield or there's a lot of ambient noise), or if you want to give the illusion that you're further away than the bad guys think you are (why else put silencers on rifles?).

IMHO the quietest SMG is the MP5SD series, but that's because the silencer is part of the gun. And even then you can hear it go "TACK-TACK-TACK" loudly enough. It's not like you can go MGS/Splinter Cell on someone in real life. Also, most silenced weapons usually require subsonic ammunition--no point in silencing the shot when the bullet cracks the sound barrier (and depending on the quality of the silencer).

I think most legally owned silencers in the US are mainly purchased to reduce gunfire sounds to bearable levels--EG it won't let you sneak around, but at least you won't make a horrible racket when shooting for fun.
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Old 2012-11-24, 21:14   Link #38327
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^ to give you idea, eras, the most silent, weakest gun for assasination use sounded like a frickin oxford dictonary falling from the top of it's rack.

That is, *THUD*
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Old 2012-11-24, 21:41   Link #38328
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Being a guy from the military, I have seen and heard a silenced rifle being fired before. It's not quite silenced as people would think.

Given the user's proximity, you can even hear the gunshot from behind a wall.


EDIT: Changes, changes everywhere... And I keep coming up with strange names o.O
Spoiler for 105:
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Old 2012-11-24, 22:14   Link #38329
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Lulz at the refurbished unit

I was thinking which is better between two-barrel 18mm rifle or single 30mm cannon for Rito's replacement weapon. 127mm recoiles gun sure are overkill, but being a single shot weapon and having low ammo capacity made a lot of problems.
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Old 2012-11-24, 22:28   Link #38330
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Then what's the point of a sileneced gun if it sounds like a thrown brick?
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Old 2012-11-24, 22:31   Link #38331
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What wave said duh.

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Silencers generally work best if it's in a loud area (like a battlefield or there's a lot of ambient noise), or if you want to give the illusion that you're further away than the bad guys think you are (why else put silencers on rifles?).
Thrown brick is FAR better than sound of full gunfire.

The sound also will not 'echo' if you're in a cramped room complexes, such as inside mafia HQ....
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Old 2012-11-24, 23:24   Link #38332
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Can you survive a pistol shot to the chest and not be impeded at all?
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Old 2012-11-24, 23:29   Link #38333
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Old 2012-11-24, 23:38   Link #38334
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Lulz at the refurbished unit

I was thinking which is better between two-barrel 18mm rifle or single 30mm cannon for Rito's replacement weapon. 127mm recoiles gun sure are overkill, but being a single shot weapon and having low ammo capacity made a lot of problems.
It may not be so amusing being a rebuilt unit and all but eeh, the concept and loadout will remain. If anything's going to change, it'll most probably be just the name.

Then again, there is a reason why I picked "105" in the first place.
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Old 2012-11-24, 23:40   Link #38335
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Really? No matter the gun?
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Old 2012-11-24, 23:44   Link #38336
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Unless the bullet somehow weak enough to bounce without breaking a bone or two and traumatized internal organ in process, nope.

This is the principle of nonlethal bullet BTW, and they still kill people if hit the right spot at close range.
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Old 2012-11-25, 04:59   Link #38337
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is one stab from a small blade enough to kill?
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Old 2012-11-25, 05:22   Link #38338
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If it hit major artery, or god forbid, heart, even a pen knife is enough.
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Old 2012-11-25, 05:32   Link #38339
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hey guys... what if IS were beaten by a cat?
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Old 2012-11-25, 05:54   Link #38340
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Super neko!

@ Senpai - How about the lower back?
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