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Old 2011-02-20, 14:20   Link #381
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Heh, who knows? All things are possible - the Forward Air Controller with the callsign Widow Six Seven might well find your Coach to be a man after his own heart. Those who have been following the goings-on in Helmand and the British AOR in Afghanistan may recognize just who Widow Six Seven is... or is he?

And assuming that this is a world that follows our world fairly closely, Widow Six Seven would have seen action and called in airstrikes of his own, and would therefore be less that pleased with prima donna grandstanding...
Well, Coach is former SAS and Royal Commando. He is rumored to be one of the few people alive to have gone up against an IS on foot and scored a kill during the National Dismantlement War.

Was not pretty. Nasty situation. Had to snatch and hold a Tier 1 asset. Bad guys did not want 'em getting away, so they just sent in waves of mooks to wear down the boys, before sending in the heavy hitters, and finally, the End Boss. The whole detachment plus a company of Royal Marines got annihilated, but they made the bastards pay in blood.

Now, Mecha is the norm here in the IS: For Answer-verse, thanks to key technologies derived from IS development. Mecha comes in three flavors, from roughly 3 to 4+ meters tall to man-sized: Muscle Tracers, progenitor powered exoskeletons, utilitarian, function over form, can be weaponized on the fly, and very common in civilian sector. Next, Armored Troopers, real mecha derived from MTs, cheap, "squishy" humanoid armored tin cans armed with a 30mm autocannon at the very least typically, very versatile and effective when used correctly. Last but not least, power armor, referred to as Personal Troopers, is a must-have item for any infantry man, mechanized or not, in a battlefield where overkill levels of ordinance and killing power is the norm.

The last piece of mecha, if you can call 'em that, is a post-War concept called Arms Forts, megaweapons on a massive scale that are many times larger and much more powerful than any single Infinite Stratos.

Deployed in matters where IS are neither available nor sufficient, the existence of these fantastical mobile battle fortresses, bristling with weapon batteries, heavy armor, experimental arms and technologies, and veteran troops, replaces the reliance of IS in military operations, effectively. Just by their presence alone, they can cow an entire despot country into submission.

One such example is The Spirit of Texas, a huge walking Arms Fort commissioned by the US. Presently deployed in the East African Special Administrative Zone (or Area 8), it is designed like a gargantuan aircraft carrier and is bristling with several VLS launchers, long-range bombardment cannons, a plethora secondary batteries, and many auxiliary mechanized and airborne units. Heavy laminated armor makes this AF virtually indestructible from the outside.

Being a FAC in this kind of highly mechanized, and mobile battlefield is challenging work to say the least, I assure you.
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Old 2011-02-20, 14:46   Link #382
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So nana will be voicing two chars at the same time.. XD
I already made her voice this yandere some time ago:

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Mizuki Nana is nowhere near a yandoru VA. Her voice is too dramatic, emotionally deep and nowhere near sadistic or blatant with a sense of calm.

Natsuko Kuwatani, Rina Satou, Kana Asumi maybe? Or Chiaki Takahashi (Litchi from Blazblue) who is sharp in her moves and attitude....I can't think of many VAs who are yandere inclined.

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Well, Coach is former SAS and Royal Commando. He is rumored to be one of the few people alive to have gone up against an IS on foot and scored a kill during the National Dismantlement War.
SBS you mean. Most RMCs don't like much about the paperwork to jump to the air-insertion side of UKSF, they could be easier streamed into the SBS with the same amount of challenge but less document redos.

Nonetheless they are still badass, other than the occasional screw-up when dealing with PIRA.
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Old 2011-02-20, 15:06   Link #383
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Well, Coach is former SAS and Royal Commando. He is rumored to be one of the few people alive to have gone up against an IS on foot and scored a kill during the National Dismantlement War.

-snip-

Now, Mecha is the norm here in the IS: For Answer-verse, thanks to key technologies derived from IS development. Mecha comes in three flavors, from roughly 3 to 4+ meters tall to man-sized: Muscle Tracers, progenitor powered exoskeletons, utilitarian, function over form, can be weaponized on the fly, and very common in civilian sector. Next, Armored Troopers, real mecha derived from MTs, cheap, "squishy" humanoid armored tin cans armed with a 30mm autocannon at the very least typically, very versatile and effective when used correctly. Last but not least, power armor, referred to as Personal Troopers, is a must-have item for any infantry man, mechanized or not, in a battlefield where overkill levels of ordinance and killing power is the norm.

The last piece of mecha, if you can call 'em that, is a post-War concept called Arms Forts, megaweapons on a massive scale that are many times larger and much more powerful than any single Infinite Stratos.

Deployed in matters where IS are neither available nor sufficient, the existence of these fantastical mobile battle fortresses, bristling with weapon batteries, heavy armor, experimental arms and technologies, and veteran troops, replaces the reliance of IS in military operations, effectively. Just by their presence alone, they can cow an entire despot country into submission.

-snip-
I think you mean SBS... naval equivalent to SAS, they are, and operations on land they've done as well. (Also, to a certain extent, there's a rivalry between the two groups - nothing overt or out of hand, but a Royal Marines Commando would rather go to SBS rather than SAS, apart from the various paperwork issues.) SBS were active in Helmand when the Royal Marines Commando was given responsibility for the AOR in 2007.

Not quite what I was thinking, to be honest - IMO this is all proceeding a little too fast, given that IS deployment is only 10 years old (and the series is circa 2020). What I had more in mind, as per Widow Six Seven's quick bio, was the British Army wanting to quietly steal the thunder on everyone else and develop several things:

1) IS Combat Doctrine

2) IS Interoperability With Other Assets Doctrine

3) FAC Doctrine For Using IS

4) More Doctrine

5) Yet More Bloody Doctrine

6) Fucking Doctrine Again?!

7) Good Gods Man, Haven't You Had Enough Bloody Doctrine For One Lifetime?


(Yes, I have spent the last 8 months on-off writing up previously non-existant doctrine for my call centre. Why do you ask?)

To an extent, I'd think that powered armor would still be in its infancy, given that the various nations are trying to reverse engineer IS - though apparently someone can do it, given the UCAV IS we see in the show... this is my way of saying, "Slow down, dude. Less is more."

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Being a FAC in this kind of highly mechanized, and mobile battlefield is challenging work to say the least, I assure you.
Quite - FACs would have to be fairly mobile themselves, though it also depends on what they're doing and where they're doing it from - during his combat time, Widow Six Seven operated out of a bunker in Garmsir, Helmand Province, Afghanistan, calling in airstrikes based on live surveillance imagery, as well as foot patrols to scout out and get the lay of the land.
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@Goose:

IS: For Answer. A.D. 2120. Ditto.

Cannon... A.D. 2020. Ditto.

Certainly, IS deployment and doctrine has only been around for 10 years. But what about actual development? It could be a year, decades, or a whole century for all we know. That's part of how I justify the existence of spankin' cool mecha, plus some Black Technology / EOT doesn't hurt. ...I would not be surprised if IS itself gets revealed to be some kind of black tech, once the author gets around to it.

Besides, it's 2020 and we already have full on holographic displays with haptic interfaces? Linear lines? Super cool directed energy weapons? Fin Funnels? Anti-grav? Energy shields? Etc.

Come on, Goose, you gotta lighten up, bro.

...but, hey, you can always create your own AU that's very gritty and hardcore, too.
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Old 2011-02-20, 17:34   Link #385
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@Goose:

IS: For Answer. A.D. 2120. Ditto.

Cannon... A.D. 2020. Ditto.

Certainly, IS deployment and doctrine has only been around for 10 years. But what about actual development? It could be a year, decades, or a whole century for all we know. That's part of how I justify the existence of spankin' cool mecha, plus some Black Technology / EOT doesn't hurt. ...I would not be surprised if IS itself gets revealed to be some kind of black tech, once the author gets around to it.

Besides, it's 2020 and we already have full on holographic displays with haptic interfaces? Linear lines? Super cool directed energy weapons? Fin Funnels? Anti-grav? Energy shields? Etc.

Come on, Goose, you gotta lighten up, bro.

...but, hey, you can always create your own AU that's very gritty and hardcore, too.
Well, if you have lots of death, I'll read the fic. xD
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Mizuki Nana is nowhere near a yandoru VA. Her voice is too dramatic, emotionally deep and nowhere near sadistic or blatant with a sense of calm.

Natsuko Kuwatani, Rina Satou, Kana Asumi maybe? Or Chiaki Takahashi (Litchi from Blazblue) who is sharp in her moves and attitude....I can't think of many VAs who are yandere inclined.
I mostly picked Mizuki Nana due to a few things....

- Moka Akashiya (That would be Sophia's Normal Side)
- Hinata Hyuga (Another softy...)

- Pandora (Saint Seiya:The Lost Canvas) = HADES-SAMA
- Alois Trancy (Even though he's a boy, there's that... VERY DISTURBING SIDE)


She can be pretty scary at times...


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IS: For Answer. A.D. 2120. Ditto.

Cannon... A.D. 2020. Ditto.

Certainly, IS deployment and doctrine has only been around for 10 years. But what about actual development? It could be a year, decades, or a whole century for all we know. That's part of how I justify the existence of spankin' cool mecha, plus some Black Technology / EOT doesn't hurt. ...I would not be surprised if IS itself gets revealed to be some kind of black tech, once the author gets around to it.

Besides, it's 2020 and we already have full on holographic displays with haptic interfaces? Linear lines? Super cool directed energy weapons? Fin Funnels? Anti-grav? Energy shields? Etc.
I do believe most of the advanced tech came from the IS? Everything seems pretty normal in the canon world EXCEPT for the IS that is.
Speaking of the Spirit of Texas... how is it supposed to ford oceans? If its the same as the Spirit of the Motherwill... It's mobility should be restrained to the US continent. Unless that you gave it amphibious powers then.

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Here's the picture I was inspired to from Terminator's work.
Took my only 5 days to complete...

Spoiler for Pic is heug:


I tried to make the characters look as close to thier descriptions/character pictures/ "other stuff that was mentioned here" as possible, sorry if I messed them up.
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I do believe most of the advanced tech came from the IS? Everything seems pretty normal in the canon world EXCEPT for the IS that is.
Speaking of the Spirit of Texas... how is it supposed to ford oceans? If its the same as the Spirit of the Motherwill... It's mobility should be restrained to the US continent. Unless that you gave it amphibious powers then.

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Please, do clarify what you mean by "pretty normal", or I'm going to be inclined to believe you're having an A.D.D. moment.

As for the Spirit of Texas, well, they assembled it in Africa, after the major "components" were shipped over. This might seem a little absurd, but considering the US Military has a base in the horn of Africa, namely Camp Lemonnier, which is owned by the US Navy last time I checked, the logistics is possible. It's a pretty big facility covering about 2-square kilometers of turf in present day, but when you extrapolate for fiction's sake, well, it makes for the awesome.

That said, as far the Spirit-class of AFs are concerned there is a refit underway that will allow them to ford "small" bodies of water, e.g. the Red Sea, Gulf of Aden, Persian Gulf, Baltic Sea, and the Mediterranean. Of course, they are rather ponderous and vulnerable to attack during transit, being unable to use their distinctive long-range bombardment cannons to add to their weight of fire. An Amphibious or Sea going AF, or a whole pack of hunter killer submarines would be a bad day in the making.

Hence, they are given the same due as aircraft carriers with plenty of escorts, when they have to wade into the water.
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@Goose:

IS: For Answer. A.D. 2120. Ditto.

Cannon... A.D. 2020. Ditto.

Certainly, IS deployment and doctrine has only been around for 10 years. But what about actual development? It could be a year, decades, or a whole century for all we know. That's part of how I justify the existence of spankin' cool mecha, plus some Black Technology / EOT doesn't hurt. ...I would not be surprised if IS itself gets revealed to be some kind of black tech, once the author gets around to it.
The fact that ten years on nobody knows how to make IS cores suggests that it is a black technology of some kind; I'll grant that.

Regards to research and all - again, I'm setting this germ of an idea in canon, where things are still getting off the ground. Why?

My own personal interest - in the last 3 years I've found myself involved n various settings up of first things (one of my most recent jobs was to conduct OPEVAL on Domino's US Pulse software and determine if it was suitable for Malaysian use) means that I'd prefer to play in this era, rather than IS:FA which is 100 years later and more your kinda thing.

IIRC linear rail lines exist today, though they're still not yet into mass deployment - something about cost issues and the like. Granted, I tend to be a more down to earth focused kinda person.

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Besides, it's 2020 and we already have full on holographic displays with haptic interfaces? Linear lines? Super cool directed energy weapons? Fin Funnels? Anti-grav? Energy shields? Etc.

Come on, Goose, you gotta lighten up, bro.

...but, hey, you can always create your own AU that's very gritty and hardcore, too.
To be honest, part of the reason I want Widow Six Seven - who, I'm thinking, I need to revise to be a 35-year old Major - to be observing and building doctrine is so that I can let off steam at the various shit that's happening at my workplace - get it out into the open, change the names to protect the guilty, and then mock mercilessly as a form of stress relief. The IS doctrine crap is just periphery to Widow Six Seven's endless slog through the bureaucracy - some things won't go away, no matter who you are, even despite Widow Six Seven's distinguished birth.

Again, he's the only person who Cecilia Alcott would feel she is a social inferior to. With the callsign and other hints, it should be easy to figure out who this is.

Basically, he's going to end up making similar comments to this Gunny:


Mind, I totally feel the same way as Gunny Hitler:

"It's like every day I come to work a piece of my soul dies."

Edit: Further thoughts - when I think about it, IS may well be the only platform shared by all 4 branches of the US Military - the Army may well want a few to supplement the Apaches, especially since the Comanche got canned. Air Force will want to be able to intercept enemy IS, remembering how White Knight soloed 207 5th gen fighters. Navy will want the same, recalling that White Knight savaged 7 carrier groups. Marines will appreciate having more firepower to support the rifleman on the ground.

And since it's not fixed wing, the Key West Agreement doesn't apply. At least until USAF starts the politicking again (a year ago, a leaked USAF briefing document identified the Army, Navy and Marine Corps as the enemy).
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Old 2011-02-20, 23:52   Link #391
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Please, do clarify what you mean by "pretty normal", or I'm going to be inclined to believe you're having an A.D.D. moment.

As for the Spirit of Texas, well, they assembled it in Africa, after the major "components" were shipped over. This might seem a little absurd, but considering the US Military has a base in the horn of Africa, namely Camp Lemonnier, which is owned by the US Navy last time I checked, the logistics is possible. It's a pretty big facility covering about 2-square kilometers of turf in present day, but when you extrapolate for fiction's sake, well, it makes for the awesome.

That said, as far the Spirit-class of AFs are concerned there is a refit underway that will allow them to ford "small" bodies of water, e.g. the Red Sea, Gulf of Aden, Persian Gulf, Baltic Sea, and the Mediterranean. Of course, they are rather ponderous and vulnerable to attack during transit, being unable to use their distinctive long-range bombardment cannons to add to their weight of fire. An Amphibious or Sea going AF, or a whole pack of hunter killer submarines would be a bad day in the making.

Hence, they are given the same due as aircraft carriers with plenty of escorts, when they have to wade into the water.
The beam stuff, missiles, AIC, and all that magical gundam crap... only IS have access to that if I do remember correctly. The Shields on the arena's side are retrofitted IS shields I guess.

The rest of the armament is pretty much our current weapons.
As for the holograms and all, don't we already have some sort of stuff like that?
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You know what, if you could come up with a picture of your IS, it'd be awesome, i plus, how heavy is your IS gonna be? it has like a huge amount of weapons.
It does have quite a amount of weaponary but,it can't carry all of them.It like different gear for different situation.

Even if it's REALLY heavy(though I don't think IS can be that heavy...surely it would weight less than 20 ton)IS is anti-gravity aircraft,or...a man made UFO.
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I am already thinking of having Marina Inoue voicing Rachel's handler. Still on the storyboarding stage though, because I got into a mess in school regarding my projects (thus the reason I hate group projects without any cloud or BBS elements).
Just so you know, Marina Inoue is the voice of Laura Bodewig. Some people would prefer that OCs don't repeat a CC voice.

How about Maaya Sakamoto?

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And I just realised that you added the "slacker" trait to Karon - exactly what I wanted because Rachel is her direct opposite. I forsee that Rachel will always be the one cleaning their dorm in the future.
You proposed the idea, and I thot it was great, so I took it.

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And the VA for Kari is decided. Mizuki Nana - motherly (to that lazy wolfgirl), supportive and friendly (towards Rachel when she doubts herself), and the DMZ (between Rachel and Karon), also that she has a brilliant voice for singing too. Atashi no uta wo kike!
Argh. I assigned her Kotobuki Minako! And I think I prefer that to Nana, considering my plans.

Well, I could always put it down to "Anime Director changing the Voice Actress" like they do for some anime while transiting from one medium to the next.
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Though I haven't decided who for that little kuudere.
I thot it was... um... that other choice I didn't really recognize?

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Having a guy that's a badass normal like Mwu La Flaga isn't bad... My own char has this recorded in his bio. He pwned an IS with a modified F-22 raptor. XD
I dreamed up a guy like that, but with a Eurofighter.

He was due for an appearance later in Shooting Star, not sure when, probably quite late, but some time.

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So nana will be voicing two chars at the same time.. XD
I already made her voice this yandere some time ago:

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I mostly picked Mizuki Nana due to a few things....

- Moka Akashiya (That would be Sophia's Normal Side)
- Hinata Hyuga (Another softy...)

- Pandora (Saint Seiya:The Lost Canvas) = HADES-SAMA
- Alois Trancy (Even though he's a boy, there's that... VERY DISTURBING SIDE)


She can be pretty scary at times...


I could go with this Nana choice. Saves me the effort to go make a Nana.

That just leaves me with teacher and STE test pilot Kazehaya Sawako (Yes she's married ) for my Noto character. Oh and [Shooting Star] sponsor Chao Ryumei for my evil Chiwa Saito fix.

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There's a certain bit of crack that can be found with this OC. Consider it my little in-joke at Cecilia's expense. XD
I'm probably missing the significance to Yukana-tan unless its anything to do with a certain Zwei, or a certain submarine captain?

(meanwhile goes PFFFFFFFFFFFFT at discovering that Yukana voiced CCS Lee Meiling)





EDIT:

It has come to my atttention that some parts of the old fanon existed in Karon's biodata still, so I went back and scrubbed those out. So no weird buying out of Australia (though right now the ASX is owned by a Singapore GLC) and no flood.

However, Rachel Hirasawa (my adaptation of Saintess' OC, though did I spell the name correct?) continues to enjoy her status of spacenoid. A crack world has to have some mindbending parts after all.

It allows for the Metropolis to be home to "political exiles" as well, and that would again fit her, given that her father's name was involved with the Halycons and the One Year War.
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I'm really disappointed that no one has found Widow Six Seven's crack. Or his actual identity. Does nobody do research anymore?

I'll repeat again: as of 2020 he's 35 years old and a British Army Major; he was commissioned as a Coronet into the Blues and Royals; he first trained as a tank commander but did not join the Blues and Royals when they deployed to Iraq, as he is a bullet magnet for insurgents; subsequently in 2007 he served with deep secrecy as a Forward Air Controller in Helmand province, Afghanistan (which is where he picked up the callsign Widow Six Seven); after leaving Afghanistan he transfered to the Army Air Corps and trained as an Apache pilot.

Now, at the ripe old age of 35, the British Army Major known by his callsign of Widow Six Seven is an observer at the IS academy, monitoring the performance of Cecilia Alcott and IS in general, conducting preliminary work that will form the foundation for British IS doctrine.

He will not be cowed by Cecilia's social status or upper class; rather she would be cowed by him. Because while she's apparently posh and an IS pilot, he has her beat in the family pedigree.

Should I spell it out?
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Should I spell it out?
Sorry never actually thought much about it until your post...

but... are you talking about that guy perhaps?

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At last, someone gets it.

To be honest I've been half-amused, half-aghast that nobody's called me out on it.

Perhaps if Widow Six Seven was female, i.e. genderbent, perhaps then people would have called me out on it?
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Actually, I fail at stuff like that Wild Goose. Sure, the prince would make a funny appearance... I'm already smelling tea time ahead... XD Or cecilia being HUMBLED.

All hail britania. Too bad I can't bring De Gaulle as a ninja zombie robot pirate.



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Why would we bother with the prince of a country "whose only strength is its ancient culture"? At least if she were a princess we'd have a bit more concern. And that's just a little bit.

I'm featuring Princess Tatsumiya Aiko of the Crysanthenum Throne as a side character pilot in Shooting Star, wholesale and without much changes. She's a moeblob, she can fly an IS, and with the voice of Iwao Junko (if Maaya is taken) I think more people will notice. And she's be just the right age come 2021!
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Old 2011-02-21, 08:38   Link #399
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Wow, Alex really is a pervert...
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Wow, Alex really is a pervert...
Accidental Pervert.

Sadly, this will often fall on him... when we're not in a serious situation (well, even in serious situations, we might have one of the girls hit him due to a misunderstanding...)

There's a high chance that he might get his own Harem... But we're not sure for now.

As for a potential opening for my own side of the story... I think I got a nice song:



Moar seriousness.


EDIT: P.s Meister... How often does Karon switch form between imouto and her true-self?
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