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Old 2013-05-19, 01:14   Link #43601
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I'm guessing Laura's rich because of both being a pilot and a soldier. Money adds up.
- You forget to factor in other things, though:

- Cost of Living? How much of her salary goes to funding her lifestyle? Laura probabyl doesn't own a lot, but if her enrollment in ISA funded by the Government or is it something she's paying for? I'd imagine that Rep Candidates would have some (or all) of their expenses covered by their governments, but how much depends on the Government in question.
- IS Maintenance costs? Is she paying for upkeep on her IS, or is that covered?
- Bookkeeping? Who has say on what the money gets used for? In some cases (Cecilia) there's no restraints or monitors on how much is spent or what it's spent for. But if you're a Rep Candidate there's probably a limit to how much you can spend and what you can spend it on. I'd imagine that you may have a large salary but the actual cash-on-hand you can use may be little more than an allowance.
- And that's not even taking into account graft and corruption. A savvy Government official can possibly argue that they're 'safekeeping' the money earned by a minor (Rep Candidates are under 18 still) -- you know what happens next.
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Old 2013-05-19, 02:04   Link #43602
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Suppose pilots actually have to pay for their lfestyle... Then it'd be rough?
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Old 2013-05-19, 02:18   Link #43603
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Cecilia do have limited access to her bajillion inheritance (for a certain value of limited), and Laura had full control on her money.

The rest follow Hawke's post above, you are given allowance (larger than most, but smaller than real wage). Your wage will pile up in bank account until you're declared legally adult, while government harvesting what little interest it gave.
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Old 2013-05-19, 02:33   Link #43604
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Laura probably counts as an adult all things considered.
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Old 2013-05-19, 02:36   Link #43605
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Your wage will pile up in bank account until you're declared legally adult, while government harvesting what little interest it gave.
...and if you're one of those REALLY dirty two-faced politicians, you might just put in a motion to never allow your Rep Candidate to claim their salary on the following grounds:
  • That the Representative Candidate has sufficient enough finances to not need the salary as provided by Government
  • That the Representative Candidate has been entered or nominated by illegal, unfair, or dishonest means
  • That the Representative Candidate can be argued to not be a citizen of the Government she represents
  • That the Representative Candidate is mentally or emotionally unable to take the responsibilities of handling the finances
  • That the Representative Candidate has taken actions in conflict of interest with the country she represents
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Old 2013-05-19, 02:47   Link #43606
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I doubt it. Remember: Their societal views got flipped over. So if a male politician tried that, he'd be legally castrated. A female politician wouldn't do so since it gimps them. Of course all humans are different, but IS verse seems to run on the basis that the entire cast are caricatures.
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Old 2013-05-19, 02:49   Link #43607
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Laura probably counts as an adult all things considered.
Exactly

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...and if you're one of those REALLY dirty two-faced politicians, you might just put in a motion to never allow your Rep Candidate to claim their salary on the following grounds:
  • That the Representative Candidate has sufficient enough finances to not need the salary as provided by Government
  • That the Representative Candidate has been entered or nominated by illegal, unfair, or dishonest means
  • That the Representative Candidate can be argued to not be a citizen of the Government she represents
  • That the Representative Candidate is mentally or emotionally unable to take the responsibilities of handling the finances
  • That the Representative Candidate has taken actions in conflict of interest with the country she represents
By that order
* Cecilia
* Charlotte
* Tatenashi
* Cecilia again
* Chifuyu

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I doubt it. Remember: Their societal views got flipped over. So if a male politician tried that, he'd be legally castrated. A female politician wouldn't do so since it gimps them. Of course all humans are different, but IS verse seems to run on the basis that the entire cast are caricatures.
It's a 'what if' scenario, maybe very rare, but not impossible. Hell, it's plausible because it's a caricature of politics.
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Old 2013-05-19, 03:07   Link #43608
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Check out the season 2 PV on youtube Does full intro for characters and even shows which accesorry is their IS.
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Old 2013-05-19, 03:12   Link #43609
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Okay

*prepare ten foot pole*
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Old 2013-05-19, 03:13   Link #43610
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Mmm... So does not apply for non-government IS companies
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Old 2013-05-19, 03:15   Link #43611
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There aren't any non-government:/ All the corporations make IS PARTS, and they're given cores under government watch and sanction. A company that makes its own IS would be branded illegal.
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Old 2013-05-19, 03:16   Link #43612
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You think a company that do research and development on WEAPON OF MASS DESTRUCTION will be let loose like that?

Think again
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Old 2013-05-19, 03:21   Link #43613
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I doubt it. Remember: Their societal views got flipped over. So if a male politician tried that, he'd be legally castrated. A female politician wouldn't do so since it gimps them. Of course all humans are different, but IS verse seems to run on the basis that the entire cast are caricatures.
- Not necessarily. Remember the saying "politics makes strange bedfellows"? Thus political parties that are diametrically opposed will join forces--to get additional shares in the budget/votes/whatever.

The argument here isn't for ideals or pet projects. This is about budget and finances. Governments and politicians will try anything up to (and sometimes including) outright murder to get the finances for whatever they're planning. And since money doesn't appear out of nowhere (despite what the Reserve Bank will have you believe), that usually means cutting the finances from other projects/funding.

So, if you could argue that the current Representative Candidate isn't worth the money being spent on her and that you have a cheaper alternative...
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Old 2013-05-19, 03:26   Link #43614
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Don't think so. Maybe in REAL LIFE, but Rin specifically says that politicians BEGGED her to take the IS rep position, and she even notes that she feels smug about it. Needless to say, politics is the IS' bitch in this world.
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Old 2013-05-19, 03:30   Link #43615
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Well... everything beyond V2 seems to think otherwise, from Gospel being detained, worldwide terrorist, covert attack on I.S.A. etc

Can't win against politics, if you win you'll just cause total anarchy. Just look at Tabane, who's above mortal law.
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Old 2013-05-19, 03:32   Link #43616
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Yes, because the fact that ISA has more holes in its security than Swiss cheese and yet doesn't get a single slap on the wrist by the government says that they're still on top.
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Old 2013-05-19, 03:36   Link #43617
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Can't argue against that

Time for subversion then
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Old 2013-05-19, 03:38   Link #43618
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In all seriousness, the times IS academy gets attacked would make students run out of there and drop out. Not to mention that their security detail seems to always be on break.
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Old 2013-05-19, 03:38   Link #43619
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But companies are pretty much non-gov. They have partnerships yes but I doubt they are directly under.

Maybe that's why some companies are desperate for testers :-?
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Old 2013-05-19, 03:41   Link #43620
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In all seriousness, the times IS academy gets attacked would make students run out of there and drop out. Not to mention that their security detail seems to always be on break.
Yes

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They have partnerships yes but I doubt they are directly under.
"Sukhoi began to compete with General Dynamics regarding which one of them will provide best service to Neo-Taliban government"

"F-35 sold at sale price of 75M USD everywhere, including Russia"

News like this certainly happened in your verse
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