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Old 2011-11-14, 07:42   Link #7681
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@zero: Can't I just say they have a lot of back-ups to take over representative status? I was thinking of introducing another one too.
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Old 2011-11-14, 07:42   Link #7682
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Correction, the I.S. Cadet Rep of USA is Iris Calling, and her I.S. is [Fang Quake], now that clears things up.

And yes, there's more than one cadet rep for each country, but only one has the rights to use personal I.S., the best amongst them in certain factor (not always combat performance), for example Cecilia has highest [BT] unit aptitude, even though technically wise she's crippled in close combat.
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Old 2011-11-14, 07:45   Link #7683
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@ Zero - Wait, if there's only one who can use a personal unit, how come the other pilot also has an IS?
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Old 2011-11-14, 07:53   Link #7684
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@ Zero - Wait, if there's only one who can use a personal unit, how come the other pilot also has an IS?
Exception: Special, dire circumstances.

Such as Ichika, the only guy, him not having I.S. is, in fact, RIDICULOUS. He's goldmine for both corporation and Japan as a whole, he has talent and connection backing him up.

(Said corporation even sacrifice the development of the Personal I.S. for the next Cadet Rep of Japan, Kanzashi, just so ByakuShiki can be completed)

And Houki getting her I.S. obviously from Tabane who can do as she please.

Maybe it can be justified that Fillia was there as Rong's escort/ handler.

But adding another Cadet Rep from USA with ANOTHER Personal I.S. is plain mind-blowing. Remember that Personal I.S., unless used for competition, is mostly testbed platform for new technology.

And Research of 'new technology' aren't cheap (BT type was so expensive entire Europe joined their effort funded it), hence one Personal, one sister unit was unwritten rule.
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Old 2011-11-14, 07:58   Link #7685
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Exception: Special, dire circumstances.

Such as Ichika, the only guy, him not having I.S. is, in fact, RIDICULOUS. He's goldmine for both corporation and Japan as a whole, he has talent and connection backing him up.

(Said corporation even sacrifice the development of the Personal I.S. for the next Cadet Rep of Japan, Kanzashi, just so ByakuShiki can be completed)

And Houki getting her I.S. obviously from Tabane who can do as she please.

Maybe it can be justified that Fillia was there as Rong's escort/ handler.
Technically, Japan doesn't have two IS'. Kanzashi's IS was scrapped in favor for his so they didn't make more than one; they just ditched the actual representative and gave it to the more popular albeit less experienced user.

Also, Fillia doesn't have a personal. Just a test unit I think.

EDIT: So the Silverio is the test bed while the fang quake is the sister unit?
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Old 2011-11-14, 08:01   Link #7686
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Actually it was supposed to be the other way around.

Spoiler for Fillia's circumstances:


can that work?

@eratas: Yeah, Arke-Progenita is a test unit for mass produced IS. I think a similar situation can be found with Laura and her Schwarzer Regen. Though to test the full capacity of Arke-Progenita as a test unit, the personalization and optimization functions were all disabled. So she's at factory settings with some special tuning by Rong.

@zero: The other USA rep is like Fillia, not really a rep, just someone who is recognized with a lot of potential to be one. She is the US military and IS research center's test pilot for the Astra Exodus while Rong was still locked up and or not in a state to help them. She is sent along with the Astra Exodus.
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Old 2011-11-14, 08:05   Link #7687
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An bit of Chapter 9's draft that I want to share:

Spoiler for Scene:


All from a minor, accidental trip on a fallen tree branch
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Old 2011-11-14, 08:10   Link #7688
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@ Demino_Hellsin - That kind of sounds like stockholm syndrome actually. Why would she get so attached to Rong after he kidnapped her in the first place? Most people would maybe defend someone who kidnapped them and had a chage of heart, but not spend a lot of their time making sure they stayed alive.

@ Stratos - Sounds like he's going to be sore tomorrow
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Old 2011-11-14, 08:10   Link #7689
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Technically, Japan doesn't have two IS'. Kanzashi's IS was scrapped in favor for his so they didn't make more than one; they just ditched the actual representative and gave it to the more popular albeit less experienced user.

Also, Fillia doesn't have a personal. Just a test unit I think.

EDIT: So the Silverio is the test bed while the fang quake is the sister unit?
There's also Combat Optimized unit, in that it use much more refined technology to create a near-perfect I.S. without flaws, but the technology used in it is mostly what's left from previous generation.

Technically, Gospel has no sister unit, since it's already perfected in that way, but Americans planned to give it a new type of weapon, revert it back to Testbed Platform (albeit very strong one). Too bad Tabane basically put Gospel to comatose before those new perks can be implemented.

[Fang Quake] is a testbed platform for 'multiple boost' unit (Most, if not all units can only use Ignition Boost ONCE for each long interval because of the strain it caused), too bad ByakuShiki got the concept first by sheer miraculousness of Fold-Out Armor.

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Actually it was supposed to be the other way around.

Spoiler for Fillia's circumstances:


can that work?

@eratas: Yeah, Arke-Progenita is a test unit for mass produced IS. I think a similar situation can be found with Laura and her Schwarzer Regen. Though to test the full capacity of Arke-Progenita as a test unit, the personalization and optimization functions were all disabled. So she's at factory settings with some special tuning by Rong.
...........................

So basically it's USA playing rich again for having three Testbed unit. They did the same in mine, though those are not REAL I.S. per se
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Old 2011-11-14, 08:17   Link #7690
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@ Stratos - Sounds like he's going to be sore tomorrow
Yeah, poor him...
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Old 2011-11-14, 08:20   Link #7691
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@eratas: Fillia has a personal reason(she wasn't all there when she made the request), and the time she spent with Rong is significant(not shoujo romance time D. But yeah, you could say it's stockholm syndrome.

@zero: *shrug* It's america, they do what they do. Plus Arke-Progenita isn't too radical. All its weapons and special functions are taken from battledata of existing units. Scwarzer Regens AIC is reverse engineered to Active Inertia Amplifier and the Rafael Revive's specialization in carrying multiple equalizer is changed to carrying whole load outs, in the form of the dress system, in each equalizer slot than just a single weapon.
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Old 2011-11-14, 08:21   Link #7692
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@Eratas

Kanzashi's personal I.S. isn't canceled in favor of ByakuShiki's completion, DELAYED was the exact word used.

Uchigane Mk.II is just a stopgap measure so they can develop the Image-Interface controlled missile system before the REAL test platform rolled out.
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Old 2011-11-14, 08:22   Link #7693
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@ Zero - Did Tabane not even count on the fact that Natasha would be in an "and I must scream"? The unit was moving on it's own and the pilot was fully conscious.

Delayed despite the fact that Byaku-shiki's complete and it can't accept new gear? I think they just ditched her in favor of Ichika.

side note - Sent ya a PM.

@ Demino_Hellsin - Good luck then, hope you can continue writing.
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Old 2011-11-14, 08:26   Link #7694
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thanks, just wanted to check whether I was going into loony territory.
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Old 2011-11-14, 08:31   Link #7695
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@ Zero - Did Tabane not even count on the fact that Natasha would be in an "and I must scream"? The unit was moving on it's own and the pilot was fully conscious.
Why Tabane even care? The fact that White Knight Incident cost no live is borderline miraculous! Were talking about destruction of 2000+ ballistic missile and a shitload of naval force here.

EDIT: Natasha is UNCONSCIOUS, that's what kicked the AI to take control of Gospel, Tabane tampered with said AI and made it berserk.

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Delayed despite the fact that Byaku-shiki's complete and it can't accept new gear? I think they just ditched her in favor of Ichika.
Indeed, that's exactly what happened, priority put on Ichika > Kanzashi, just like that. They JSUT started to put their Project related to Kanzashi very recently...
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Old 2011-11-14, 08:38   Link #7696
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Why Tabane even care? The fact that White Knight Incident cost no live is borderline miraculous!
Not in my story though....
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Not in my story though....
Neither in my story....but mostly Tabane's fault is indirect and it was Chifuyu who feel responsible (causing the organization to kill Orimuras and Squall's family)

See you guys tom, I still have exam for this entire week and late sleep is a no-no!
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Old 2011-11-14, 08:42   Link #7698
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@ demino_hellsin - What do you mean loony?

@ Zero - I bet she threatened Chifuyu since Ichika also lives in the city right? I doubt she'd let him burn in missile fire.

side note - Sent ya another PM.

@ Stratos - Same in Shadow, the negative effects of the IS are shown in people like Irish.
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Old 2011-11-14, 08:57   Link #7699
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About Equalizer:

Weapon Equalizer can be switch quickly in battle but a Package is not something that can be switch easily on the field and actually take some time to install into the IS (because lots of equalizers involved?).
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Old 2011-11-14, 09:01   Link #7700
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About Equalizer:

Weapon Equalizer can be switch quickly in battle but a Package is not something that can be switch easily on the field and actually take some time to install into the IS (because lots of equalizers involved?).
The only one that can switch is the Rafael Revive, and that's only because it had it's main equipment replaced with all the equalizers.

Side note - Sent a PM with some questions.
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