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Old 2011-11-16, 21:24   Link #7941
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@ Eratas: As stated before, he hides a stash of kemonomimi ero-books under his bed.

So yes, he does. Only if it has either heterochromia or kemonomimi or both in it. But he's a closet pervert, and will not admit it, even when he's caught.
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Old 2011-11-16, 21:31   Link #7942
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@ Rain - Can I make a scene where Kyuukai straps down Irish and Ichika to make them watch porn. Both are dense idiots and they keep saying nobody likes them (which annoys Kyuukai since he's probably the only one actually actively trying to get a girlfriend while the other two already have options but ignore them).

Besides, it'll be a learning experience for them
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Old 2011-11-16, 21:35   Link #7943
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@ Eratas: Sure go ahead.

I can imagine it more like a Saw Jigsaw kind of scene though...

Like this: Have Kyuukai lock them in a dark room, locked to chairs. Then have him put on a voice changer that turns his voice more creepy. Then have him force the two to answer questions about girls and dating and relationships.

If one get's a wrong answer, they'll have to watch a loop of some kind of porn. If you really wanna get torturey, then make that porn two girls one cup.

...

I think we'll end up breaking the protagonists one way or another.
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Old 2011-11-16, 21:39   Link #7944
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@ Meister - Oh God, it's tenchu all over again!

@ Zero - So its like a child mentality wise? The more it "grows" the better it's performance and it's evolution. Am I getting that right?

Side note - For the plan you and Blitz have, is it really plausible? She'd probably program it to self destruct when it was intercepted. Remember, this is the woman who sends Golems after her own sister in a populated area.
She would, but Tabane was counting on the interception. Remember, her intention is have the world be a more interesting place, if there is a power balance or chaos, it would achieve her goal regardless.
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Old 2011-11-16, 21:44   Link #7945
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@ Rain - Perfect! Then while he's monologueing about dating he gets a call from Tabane that gets broadcasted over the mike . Irish and Ichika look at each other then say they're killing Kyuukai once he breaks out.

Side note - What's two girls one cup? I don't watch porn so I don't know.
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Old 2011-11-16, 21:46   Link #7946
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@ I don't know much about it either, but it's infamous. Wiki it, since I don't think I can get away with typing about it now.

I'll be back in half, got to get some small chores done.
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Old 2011-11-16, 21:55   Link #7947
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Origins to The IS
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Old 2011-11-16, 22:01   Link #7948
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@ Rain - Lastly, is it alright if I put in a date peepers segment? Irish and Laura leave together to go to the city so Tatenashi and Kyuukai follow them around to see what they're doing.
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Old 2011-11-16, 22:47   Link #7949
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@ Eratas: Go ahead.

@ Jak: Skimmed through that fic. Seems interesting-ish, but the mention of a First Conflict caught my attention.

It's probably a different thing, but the basis is there, some sort of severe war down the line of the author's fabricated IS history.
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Old 2011-11-16, 23:03   Link #7950
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@ Zero - So its like a child mentality wise? The more it "grows" the better it's performance and it's evolution. Am I getting that right?
I can't see a child being very obedient, rare example perhaps?

Just kidding, as I said, more like idiots/ mentally retarded. Unlike I.S. core they have no emotion or hearts, they had no drive to rebel, they are true computer with absolute obedience.

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Side note - For the plan you and Blitz have, is it really plausible? She'd probably program it to self destruct when it was intercepted. Remember, this is the woman who sends Golems after her own sister in a populated area.
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She would, but Tabane was counting on the interception. Remember, her intention is have the world be a more interesting place, if there is a power balance or chaos, it would achieve her goal regardless.
Blitz was right, it was staged by Tabane herself.

Tabane for example expect PT to attack during Mondo Grosso Junior, she quickly responded by calling a pack of Golems which she used to wreak havoc and holding security force at bay.

So the fight is mostly between PT force and Ichika's harem + Yamada, Charles, Laura and Tatenashi. Madoka, Chifuyu and Yoshi is fighting Squall and Autunm at separate place. While Ichika and Houki go for Gospel hunt.
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Old 2011-11-16, 23:22   Link #7951
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Just read Origins of the IS, it seems....rushed. Cecilia felt OOC and the fact that she goes from angry to crying seems way too odd given her usual level of pride.

Side note - Retarded machines Wait, what chapter will Mondo Grosso junior take place?
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Old 2011-11-16, 23:25   Link #7952
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Just read Origins of the IS, it seems....rushed. Cecilia felt OOC and the fact that she goes from angry to crying seems way too odd given her usual level of pride.

Side note - Retarded machines Wait, what chapter will Mondo Grosso junior take place?
Shortly after VT system Rampage, it takes place in June or July, since it replaced bech episodes, so about chapter 16 or 17. We also have to introduce Sarashiki sister kinda early.
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Old 2011-11-16, 23:34   Link #7953
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Got back from smaller chores.

@ Zero: Isn't when PT attacks during the Cannonball Fast competition in canon?

Of course if you've got the Junior Mondo Grosso thing going on instead of that, ignore that question.
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Old 2011-11-16, 23:39   Link #7954
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@ Zero: Isn't when PT attacks during the Cannonball Fast competition in canon?

Of course if you've got the Junior Mondo Grosso thing going on instead of that, ignore that question.
Hell, I actually hat that sort of dillema currently, if PT attacked again during Cannonball, that would be idiotic for both Protagonist and Antagonist.
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Old 2011-11-16, 23:45   Link #7955
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@ Zero - Then have a re-purposed PT drone attack them instead of M. Think of it as a test drive.

@ Rain - Concerning the chapter 5 fight between the two. Do you know a way for Kyuukai to be injured heavily during the fight? No eyes or anything please.
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Old 2011-11-16, 23:48   Link #7956
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@ Zero - Then have a re-purposed PT drone attack them instead of M. Think of it as a test drive.
Umm, Madoka already 'kidnapped' by the time V6/ V7 rolled out...and return as M, as in, Evil Yandere Twin Sister....

Fear not, ichika already strong enough to take her out, using ByakuSHiki Setsura and Seven sword he pull from his ass (just kidding, Seven Sword Module already inferrred as early as chapter 8 anyway)

I'm out for about 30 minutes, wait for it guys.
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Old 2011-11-16, 23:52   Link #7957
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@ Eratas: I'd say having Kyuukai getting injured at the beginning, when his guard is lowered at the sight of Irish being a kid and at the bomb site.

Irish can get in a long slash to Kyuukai's chest before Kyuukai gets into the fighting mood. Kyuukai can still fight, but he'll need to get a hospital, and soon. He'll be struggling a bit to keep the blood in his body though as he fights.

Now I'm going to take a small break. Be back within the next hour, I have to just close my eyes for a bit.
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Old 2011-11-16, 23:57   Link #7958
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@ Rain - Alright, so Kyuukai gets a slash to the chest while Irish gets a slash to the neck. I guess they're even then.

See ya two in a few, I'll be here
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Old 2011-11-17, 03:27   Link #7959
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I have a few problems with AE and Rong's background....

Firstly about AE:

>AE has no close form (because there is no pocket dimension to store the power suit)

> AE can not store weapon in pocket dimension and has to carry them around.

>IS core is not just the power supply of the IS, it is also the brain of the IS.

>Without a "brain", AE is inferior to IS due to lack of learning ability. It means it
get struck in initial shift forever.

>AE has no One-off ability (it came from the core, not the body)

> It also means that AE has no Absolute barrier or one that activate when it detect a certain level of force, without the ability to determine whether the force is dangerous enough to warrant a Absolute Barrier.

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Problem with Rong:

> If he is a terrorist.... why would USA give him an experiment weapon that is as good as a super weapon?

>It's like giving the terrorist a nuke.

The only reason that I could think of is: The technology is extremely unstable and dangerous. It has a 40% chance of instantly killing the pilot and every time it activates, it shorten the pilot's life expectancy. Rong is just a sacrificial lamb so that USA can improve on the technology.

It's killing two bird with one stone:

First they technically sentenced a terrorist to death (without being condemned by other countries because they can shift the blame to the experimental nature of AE for his death).

Second: They get research data to perfect an otherwise flawed technology.
Most of the problems of the AE I am well aware of and actually planned for it to be that way. The first weakness however has a very absurd system to cover for it. The AE is composed of individual remote bits that will obey the designated pilot's mental commands(um gundam inspired). Because of the energy source they run on, this gives AE virtually unlimited operational time. The only one I didn't really think about was how the machine would lose reactive absolute defense

The thing with the AE is that Rong wasn't given the AE without strings attatched. Fillia and the american test pilot for the AE(at least I plan to add her.) are watching over him. The AE's engine is actually strapped with a limiter on its powerplant so it can't perform at its best. Half the weapons are actually inoperable while the limiter is on(somewhere about output only at 40%?). Another issue that they could not absolutely ignore was that he saved an IS pilot of the americans and that he single-handedly destroyed the terrorist organization he was part of. Though you are right about the Americans using him as a guinea pig.

I am under assumption that the neural systems that connect an IS to the pilot are initially set by engineers but fine tuned by the IS. In the AE's case there is no AI that will set the neural systems properly so anyone who pilots it wil either move sluggishly or not move at all. Rong and (probably, not sure if I will make her yet) the american test pilot bypass this by moving the AE with the bits system integrated in each piece of the AE. Because Rong had been the pilot of the AE the longest and because of his good behavior, he was offered a chance to help in developing the neural systems.

As said before, Rong was a part of the AE development team and kept trashing whatever progress was made during his time in the terrorist group so the neural system is non-existent when america captures it.

Just in case questions on why Rong is knowledgeable on IS, it's because he was not part of the AE project as just a pilot. He was also the direct assistant to the AE's head developer. He knows basic IS theory, why his AE works the way it does and general engineering knowledge. He has amazing calculative and analytical ability. Mostly because problem solving is all he did in his free time when not on missions for the terrorist group.
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Old 2011-11-17, 04:43   Link #7960
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Most of the problems of the AE I am well aware of and actually planned for it to be that way. The first weakness however has a very absurd system to cover for it. The AE is composed of individual remote bits that will obey the designated pilot's mental commands(um gundam inspired). Because of the energy source they run on, this gives AE virtually unlimited operational time. The only one I didn't really think about was how the machine would lose reactive absolute defense
Umm....."unlimited operational time"?

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The thing with the AE is that Rong wasn't given the AE without strings attatched. Fillia and the american test pilot for the AE(at least I plan to add her.) are watching over him. The AE's engine is actually strapped with a limiter on its powerplant so it can't perform at its best. Half the weapons are actually inoperable while the limiter is on(somewhere about output only at 40%?). Another issue that they could not absolutely ignore was that he saved an IS pilot of the americans and that he single-handedly destroyed the terrorist organization he was part of. Though you are right about the Americans using him as a guinea pig.
The Limiter may also act as beacon so Rong can't run with the machine.

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I am under assumption that the neural systems that connect an IS to the pilot are initially set by engineers but fine tuned by the IS. In the AE's case there is no AI that will set the neural systems properly so anyone who pilots it wil either move sluggishly or not move at all. Rong and (probably, not sure if I will make her yet) the american test pilot bypass this by moving the AE with the bits system integrated in each piece of the AE. Because Rong had been the pilot of the AE the longest and because of his good behavior, he was offered a chance to help in developing the neural systems.
Please elaborate this part, I somewhat can't understand.

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As said before, Rong was a part of the AE development team and kept trashing whatever progress was made during his time in the terrorist group so the neural system is non-existent when america captures it.

Just in case questions on why Rong is knowledgeable on IS, it's because he was not part of the AE project as just a pilot. He was also the direct assistant to the AE's head developer. He knows basic IS theory, why his AE works the way it does and general engineering knowledge. He has amazing calculative and analytical ability. Mostly because problem solving is all he did in his free time when not on missions for the terrorist group.
Wait what?
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