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Old 2012-01-04, 20:49   Link #16361
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Strike the joints directly, that's usually how Tri disables me (not like she could use anything else considering my build).

If done at full power, you can even broke their arm or feet easily. The point is that the joints being center of movement, if disabled, then the entire limb is helpless.
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Old 2012-01-04, 20:51   Link #16362
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Does this work if the person has a gun anf you're untrained? Do you need specific techniques for this?
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Old 2012-01-04, 20:55   Link #16363
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No specific techniques, the essential philosophy is 'strike fast and hard'.

(though the point of less-friendly Martial arts is increasing combat efficiency, hurting enemy while keep yourself safe)

As for the gun, well, your concern is having to disable the gun first (or have the enemy unhand it).
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Old 2012-01-04, 20:57   Link #16364
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Once again I can't watch.
Tagging a grenade on their back!

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Now, as for the other problems I need help with; it's how should I go about the parents/blood-related family of my guys and who (except Eric) would be a tattoo artist.
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Old 2012-01-04, 20:59   Link #16365
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@ Jak - What's the tatoo artist thing for?

@ Senpai - So just strink the limbs? Does striking them with a knife to temporarily paralyze them work as well?
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Old 2012-01-04, 21:02   Link #16366
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They can endure that pain and shoot you....unless you cut their tendon....

Sliverback is at the most going to appear as a movie if they are going to feature in my story.....

It will give them the freedom to use any tactic against IS....

Edit: Come to think of it... human fighting IS is almost like a magical girl fighting a nerfed down Walpurgisnacht.....

why?
IS can float
IS can take lots of hit due to energy barrier (conventional weapons are useless unless they are overpowered)
IS has technology that is advance enough to be considered as magic....(I think Ichika describe it as magic in the novel)

To fight IS, humans need to have technology at the same level (hence almost like magic)
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Old 2012-01-04, 21:03   Link #16367
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Then you need a grenade than can stick to surface and can't be easily taken off.

As for approaching I.S. from the back itself was SAID to be impossible since I.S. visual sensor covered 360 degrees, yet Ichika could easily caught Rin in the back. This means that while the pilot can see in their back, the rules of peripheral visions still apply (meaning that if the pilot see what's behind them, their front side is blind).

The problem is whether you can out-accelerate I.S. or not, Stealth simply is not an option considering their extensive sensor.

(Then again that's if we consider Silverback being conventional and not exotic on it's own)

As for familial problem, I couldn't really comment.

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One, super hard strike (multiple strike isn't really feasible). As for using knife, well... that's going to be lethal...

EDIT: If anything, a single metal pipe can work....
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Old 2012-01-04, 21:10   Link #16368
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@ Senpai - Alright, is there anywhere you can stab that'll cause the person to faint?

@ Treme - You might wanna settle on which plot you're using first
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Old 2012-01-04, 21:12   Link #16369
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working out on that...... Might work on two at the same time...
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Old 2012-01-04, 21:13   Link #16370
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What's the tatoo artist thing for?
I'm thinking of giving one of my guys a tattoo or two.

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Then you need a grenade than can stick to surface and can't be easily taken off.

As for approaching I.S. from the back itself was SAID to be impossible since I.S. visual sensor covered 360 degrees, yet Ichika could easily caught Rin in the back. This means that while the pilot can see in their back, the rules of peripheral visions still apply (meaning that if the pilot see what's behind them, their front side is blind).

The problem is whether you can out-accelerate I.S. or not, Stealth simply is not an option considering their extensive sensor.

(Then again that's if we consider Silverback being conventional and not exotic on it's own)
They have other ways.

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As for familial problem, I couldn't really comment.
I already have some ideas about it, it's just a matter of when to add it into the story. I thought about it after reading Ch. 3 of Athena Sabre.

If you guys want, I'll post what I have so far...
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Old 2012-01-04, 21:18   Link #16371
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@ Jak - Post it, maybe I can help.

@ Senpai - A metal pipe, huh? Is that easy to get at a hospital?
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Old 2012-01-04, 21:20   Link #16372
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Not necessary metal pipe, anything that would be good as blunt instrument.

Side note - Why are you insisting on 'hack and slash' if I could ask? Fighting is not all about sharp edge.
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Old 2012-01-04, 21:24   Link #16373
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@ Senpai - Not really insistent on it. it's only because Irish knly knows hack and slash I dropped his sniping and he doesn't know unarmed CQC. He's the weakest main fighter in the cast.
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Old 2012-01-04, 21:32   Link #16374
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@ Senpai - Almost forgot: Is there anything you can't add to your uniform per the dress code?

Side note - What's fear of Ghosts called?
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Old 2012-01-04, 21:34   Link #16375
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What's fear of Ghosts called?
Phasmophobia.
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Old 2012-01-04, 21:35   Link #16376
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Still Irish was smart and pragmatic, and being fragile speedster, not giving enemy's chance to counter is his first priority: usually by throw something first (sand, stone, rubble, hell, a beer bottle or coke can can work. Anything he could find, including unknown chemical) then strike later, or strike while throwing something, or use the environment advantage to him (such as using chair, table, stretcher)....

Seriously, Irish is supposed to be the one that fight dirty, not a knife-wielding duelist, especially if his enemies are fellow human, not I.S. (were his JK is very crucial)

As for stab that knock out.... no, unless you somehow managed to strike the sternum without broke it. And your enemy will either faint or got a cardiac arrest due to incredible pain.

Considering how liberal custom uniform in I.S.A. are... well, I can't think any. Probably sunglasses or hat.
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Old 2012-01-04, 21:40   Link #16377
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@ Jak - Thanks By the way, tatoo's usually aren't allowed in school.

@ Senpai - He is a dirty fighter The original plan was for Irish to tackle him then slit his throat. Even the plane chapter has him playing extremely dirty and trying to throw her out the plane. Does Ansthesia knock someone out?

Do you think glasses count as a disguise?

Side note - Is giving Irish a fear of ghost's possible?
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Old 2012-01-04, 21:45   Link #16378
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Then have him throw something at the gun, tackle him THEN kick at the sternum several times. I'd say nobody will be able to stand after that (unless the enemy in question is made of iron).

As for anesthesia, depending on what kind. What's the plan?

Yes, it counts, but seriously, not effective...

Side note - I dunno, but for what reason?
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@ Thanks By the way, tatoo's usually aren't allowed in school.
Won't do any harm if you can't see it, right?
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Old 2012-01-04, 21:48   Link #16380
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@ Jak - How small we talking about here?

@ Senpai - Plan was that he grabs a syringe of anesthesia since he's at a hospital. Allows for non-lethal takedown and is less of a hassle.

Side note - He says you can't attack or kill a ghost so he's scared of them. This shows up later when he takes a test of courage with the rest of the cast later and he starts shivering.
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