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Old 2011-10-30, 23:04   Link #1081
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It's rather unclear to me how conscious is she. She is evidently conscious enough to tell Killua to make a wish. But it seems her own wishes are entirely driven by her power, so she has no control over it.

And when is she conscious? Her power has only two modes. There doesn't seem to be an idle phase in her life. But she also does not activate her power in front of her family. There are so many questions about her ability. Hopefully Togashi will clear them in coming weeks.
I got the impression that when she told Killua how to make a wish and all that, he was using up his wish by asking for information. The wish was to know "how can I make you go back to normal".
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Old 2011-11-01, 07:58   Link #1082
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Spoiler's out. Text hasn't been translated yet, but there are a few pics around.

Spoiler for 323:
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Old 2011-11-01, 08:34   Link #1083
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Wow. early spoilers.

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Old 2011-11-01, 09:43   Link #1084
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It's rather unclear to me how conscious is she. She is evidently conscious enough to tell Killua to make a wish. But it seems her own wishes are entirely driven by her power, so she has no control over it.

And when is she conscious? Her power has only two modes. There doesn't seem to be an idle phase in her life. But she also does not activate her power in front of her family. There are so many questions about her ability. Hopefully Togashi will clear them in coming weeks.
we don't really know if she has a time limit to her request though. She could sort of just go through life without asking for favours. Or wait on her requests till she meets a bad person to kill the person. Although I wonder what happens if her pesterings are spread among 4 pple instead of just 1 person.

btw there was a previous topic about how old Netero was. while not indicative, Mr egghead had previously mentioned sometime in the hunter exams that netero had told him he was already a century old for 20 over years. This likely meant he was at least 120 if not more when he died. In fact if we factor in how he tends to under-rate stuff, he might be nearer to 200...
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Old 2011-11-01, 10:06   Link #1085
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Okay, so I found a summary that's related to those above spoiler pics:



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Old 2011-11-01, 12:41   Link #1086
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Wow. early spoilers.

Spoiler for 323:
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I think this is all going towards her trying to find a way to control her powers(of course after they saved Gon and Killua paid that price,we don't want to make things easy,do we ?),possibly joining Gon's and killua's crew.
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Old 2011-11-01, 14:16   Link #1087
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I'm thinking the payment will be long term things, that will be paid back over the course of other things happening.
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Old 2011-11-01, 17:38   Link #1088
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Okay, so I found a summary that's related to those above spoiler pics:



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Old 2011-11-01, 18:02   Link #1089
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Alluka is very sweet and moe as expected (maybe we can see her in Japan Saimoe 2013), and Killua making jokes is quite obvious makes me remember a certain movie that would air next year. I expect an Edward Elric final and not Madoka Kaname final style of payment as its equivalent exchange for Killua's wish to save Gon.

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Old 2011-11-02, 06:13   Link #1090
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I think you all forgot that Alluka is a guy. Hunter X Hunter guide book stated all zoldyck family's children are male.

I don't know why Killua called Alluka "younger sister" tho.

The reason that Alluka looks like a girl could the same reason as Kalluto - their Mother's preference.
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Old 2011-11-02, 06:31   Link #1091
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Okay, through this chapter it seems we learned a bit more about Alluka. It seems he is indeed a boy and Killua just likes to call him his sister. Second it seems the pesterings doesn't actually have to be fulfilled, Alluka just needs to think it happened.
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Old 2011-11-02, 07:11   Link #1092
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Since the requests are based on the last wish the current requests should be based on a wish for a high end pc system. The person after Killua would have to deal with the cost of healing Gon unless the last chapter was mistranslated.
Thats what i thought too. So why is Killua at risk of 'messing up' if the pester are suppose to be small in contrast to the wish his brother made for a high end PC?

This is more mind f**king than whether alluca is male or female lol.
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Old 2011-11-02, 07:27   Link #1093
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Alluka's a boy after all? Well, whatever. He's still cute anyway.

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Okay, through this chapter it seems we learned a bit more about Alluka. It seems he is indeed a boy and Killua just likes to call him his sister. Second it seems the pesterings doesn't actually have to be fulfilled, Alluka just needs to think it happened.
Hmm, I'm not entirely sure about that. The "die for me" request might just be a game they used to play when they were kids, therefore he didn't expect Killua to truly die. He even asked him to wake up afterwards. Furthermore, the other two pesterings were very trivial (wake up and play shiratori) so it doesn't really make sense for the first one to be so "deadly".

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Thats what i thought too. So why is Killua at risk of 'messing up' if the pester are suppose to be small in contrast to the wish his brother made for a high end PC?

This is more mind f**king than whether alluca is male or female lol.
Have you read the chapter? It's all explained in there.

Killua's already fulfilled Alluka's pesterings since her eyes turned black at the end of the chapter. He can now make his wish and get the hell out... but that's not when he intends to do. The problem as Illumi explained is that Killua will most likely refuse to let someone else pay the price for his wish, so he will try to shoulder the pesterings himself. If he fails... every character in the series that has ever met him will die, if Illumi's estimated number of victims is correct

I loved the dialogue between Hisoka and Illumi. Illumi's indeed quite a piece of work himself
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Old 2011-11-02, 08:12   Link #1094
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so not only Alluka's gender is variable, we also don't know where s/he came from

wtf?

so Alluka was adopted? what/which Alluka did Illumi refer to when he said "we just don't know where he came from"
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Old 2011-11-02, 08:32   Link #1095
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Ok so from what i get here

If someone refuses Alluka's pestering 4 times
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So in the case of Killua, based on what Illumi said, if Killua took the burden of the pestering from his wish of having Gon back to normal but failed to do it.
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Correct me if i'm wrong there..

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Old 2011-11-02, 09:05   Link #1096
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I love how the translators had to make a note saying that they weren't intentionally f**king with us when they translated Alluka's gender.
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Old 2011-11-02, 09:54   Link #1097
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At the same time, their wordings are confusing, at least to me who just woke up.

From what I understand, Killua will do 2 sets of pestering. The first one to get Gon's wish, and the other to pay for that grand wish.
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Old 2011-11-02, 10:05   Link #1098
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I'm getting a headache....

But the way I understand it Killua actually did die (though it also appeared to be faked) but the second request was for him to wake up and the final request was that game. Thus he completed them all. Would it not be possible for Alluka to request something and then negate that same request with the next request.
To explain:
Request 1: Die
Request 2: Wake up
In order for Killua to wake up he needs to be alive, thus the request made by Alluka made him come back to life and negates the 1st request...

Ofcourse he could have faked it, however it didn't look like he activated god speed.

There's also the matter of this being his sibling. Alluka may be compelled to ask something horrible, but because they share a close connection the next request could be beneficial to Killua because Alluka doesn't want to see Killua hurt. This would be possible only for them, because of their love for eachother.
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Old 2011-11-02, 10:09   Link #1099
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LOL, so Togashi's basically trolling us by purposely making Alluka's gender ambiguous?! Well whatever, I'll stick to calling her a girl, anyway.



And now I feel more certain than ever that Pariston will find out about Alluka and take advantage of her power. I mean, Killua is amongst those who didn't vote, right? So now we've learned that there's going to be a mandatory meeting between the zodiacs and all of the licensed hunters, which may give the vice-chairman the opportunity to gain info that would be most advantageous for him.....
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Old 2011-11-02, 10:24   Link #1100
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Or maybe some of the family doesnt know that Alluka's true gender, given the fact that most of them is out on assignments for long periods in time (maybe) or maybe Togashi wants us to rack our brain about this. To me, Alluka is a girl.

I have to agreed with marvelB, that Pariston is going to find out about Alluka's powers and try to use it for himself.
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