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Old 2011-02-11, 06:56   Link #181
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The numbers are enjoying their screentime in Vivid, (Different planet actually but hey) so no there will be not (admittedly awesome) Numbers reinforcement.
Desperate measure: Since the Bureau loves their Penal Batallion, bail Sette and Tre. At least unlike the Forwards they can fly (and unlike the others they have no Vivid screen time to enjoy)

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Sides, its a story with conflict, a body count, and a poison that will destroy the world. They have no intention on being nice, holding your hand, or using kind words. thats why its concurrent with Vivid.
I would have believed all the "this is war!", "it's supposed to be darker", "there's WAR in the title" sentiment, had the writers screwed every protagonist.

Instead, they spared just Nanoha and Fate. Oh, look, another NanoFate moment! Tehee! (War my a**)

Now don't take me wrong. I love Nanoha and I don't really care about shipping(no personal preference besides NanohaxJob, anyway, but I don't hate any pairing), but I do care when the plot got stupid because of it. Nanoha (she's supposed to be a hot shot instructor, remember?) got handed the Idiot Ball of chasing Touma, ignoring DeVille hot on her tail, just so plot-wise Fate can get her Prince-to-the-Rescue moment.

If this is how all TSAB elites operate, I fear for the future of the organization and the people they've sworn to protect.

Spoiler for Maybe this is what was inscribed in their War Memorial:


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And I miss Chrono. Is there a chance for him to be demoted so he can return to the field? IIRC it happened to Kirk, right? Having him snark on the whole situation seems nice...

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So you'd rather see the good guys come out on top when they're facing foes with abilities they've never encountered before, are ill prepared for, using equipment they aren't used to, that pretty much goes against the way they've fought for over 15 years...
I prefer that the protagonist know their limit and ditch that "We can end this today" attitude. Know your enemy, know yourself. They should have learn from what happened to Signum, not repeat them.

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Maybe a series about Fate's children adventures where she goes and randomly saves kids from their situations in life.
I myself prefers a Nanoha's rise to glory, anyway (but considering how badly tactics were handled in Force, maybe not anymore )

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And instead of that movie *grumble grumble*, I, personally, would have LOVED a SSX OVA.
Now this is something we can agree on.

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The complaints about Touma were as much about him being a guy ("Waaaaaah! We want our lesbians baaaaaaaack!") as anything else.
I'm gonna have to agree with this. Had Touma been female (and Isis and Lily remains so, too) I doubt the backlash would have been that intense.

Hmm, I wonder what the reaction would've been had this been a two-guys and a girl situation instead?

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The latest battle feels choppy at best. Subaru's hesitation to act is understandable but a bit awkward, Nanoha's 'Fortress' felt badly named, Fate's participation as of late feels incredibly underwhelming, etc.
I still blame the mangaka's inability to make good action scenes (as was the case of Shina Dark). He can make cool still poses, but not combat scenes.
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If Tsuzuki really wanted a bloody magitech War Story, he should have made an entirely new series instead. And do some decent World Building so he won't have to make up things afterwards.

PS: Page claim for Tsuzuki to do more research beyond playing SRW.
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Old 2011-02-11, 10:08   Link #182
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Hmm, I wonder what the reaction would've been had this been a two-guys and a girl situation instead?
75% of the fanboys would have dropped the show like a searing hot brick, and would have been replaced by an equal number of squealing fangirls.

The only difference we'd notice would be the pitch in the fans' voices.
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Old 2011-02-11, 10:10   Link #183
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*Imagines Touma as a girl, Lily and Isis as guys and sweats*

Oh dear.

The doujin-ka would be all over that in a heartbeat!
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Old 2011-02-11, 10:20   Link #184
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I'm surprised we haven't seen any genderbends yet.
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Old 2011-02-11, 10:21   Link #185
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I'm surprised we haven't seen any genderbends yet.
No clue.

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*Imagines Rule 63 Forwards* ...

Oh dear.
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Old 2011-02-11, 12:01   Link #186
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Hm, genderbent Force characters?

... Fortis would look exactly the same
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Old 2011-02-11, 12:03   Link #187
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Old 2011-02-11, 12:07   Link #188
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Hm, genderbent Force characters?

... Fortis would look exactly the same
Don't understimate genderbent doujins, just watch what they're able to do to Nagato xD(i swear i thinked that a genderbent version of her will be nearly identical just less curvey and having a more male eyes, but instead we got Kyouya Otori from Ouran with purple hair xD).
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Old 2011-02-11, 12:38   Link #189
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Sheesh, guys, when I checked in here and saw 87 new posts since yesterday, I thought the latest chapter was translatated. But no, it was just you again bitching about the new villains and about bitching about the new villains.

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No clue.

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*Imagines Rule 63 Forwards* ...

Oh dear.
Isaac Egret: "I'll definitely protect you, Thomako! No matter what happens to you, I'll be your friend!"
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Old 2011-02-11, 12:45   Link #190
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Isaac Egret: "I'll definitely protect you, Thomako! No matter what happens to you, I'll be your friend!"
Scary xDU

...and for some reason i realy doubt the mangaka has drawed Lily's naughty bits if she was male xD.
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Old 2011-02-11, 12:56   Link #191
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...and for some reason i realy doubt the mangaka has drawed Lily's naughty bits if she was male xD.
Actually, I still fail to imagine Male!Lily despite my sincerest efforts. The other two were easy, seeing how Isis is by far the most GAR person in their group, anyway.
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Old 2011-02-11, 15:23   Link #192
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*shrug*

I'm not apologizing for bitching about poor writing.
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Old 2011-02-11, 15:47   Link #193
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I think they having a few pages less each month which is constraining their talent a bit.
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Old 2011-02-11, 21:23   Link #194
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Sheesh, guys, when I checked in here and saw 87 new posts since yesterday, I thought the latest chapter was translatated. But no, it was just you again bitching about the new villains and about bitching about the new villains.
Nah, all the bitching of poor writing was just us practicing for when the actual chapter gets translated, MWAHAHAHAHA

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75% of the fanboys would have dropped the show like a searing hot brick, and would have been replaced by an equal number of squealing fangirls.

The only difference we'd notice would be the pitch in the fans' voices.
I must admit, after a goodnight sleep the idea now sounds less silly than I thought :

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Don't understimate genderbent doujins, just watch what they're able to do to Nagato xD(i swear i thinked that a genderbent version of her will be nearly identical just less curvey and having a more male eyes, but instead we got Kyouya Otori from Ouran with purple hair xD).
Yeah, that surprised me too

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Scary xDU

...and for some reason i realy doubt the mangaka has drawed Lily's naughty bits if she was male xD.
Oh no, that would be BatNipples all over again

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Actually, I still fail to imagine Male!Lily despite my sincerest efforts. The other two were easy, seeing how Isis is by far the most GAR person in their group, anyway.
It's because Lyle has absolutely no boyish features . Touko has a girlish face and Isaac is indeed the most GAR of all three
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Old 2011-02-11, 21:29   Link #195
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I feel sorry for Touko...

Then again...
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I don't see anything in Force that I'd count towards poor writing.
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Old 2011-02-11, 23:24   Link #197
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Well, as just an example, Raiser, at least in my mind: the Huckebeins are largely in this story to serve as threatening antagonists to Section Six, yeah? Well, why are Section Six the ones going after them? ...because they can serve as a major threat to Section Six, and people around their level of power.

Because even if you make a big deal about a new guy being this story's antagonist, Nanoha still has to appear. If they were just normal mercenaries, they could probably serve as fine antagonists for -just- Touma, but that's not marketable.
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Old 2011-02-11, 23:42   Link #198
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So you're saying bringing back the old cast was poor writing? If they were brought back in some contrite way I'd agree with you, but seeing as how Hayate is in a pretty high position with plenty of experience under her belt, it's pretty natural that she'd be assigned to such a case.
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Old 2011-02-11, 23:56   Link #199
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No, no, no - I'm saying that making a villain really strong purely so you have an excuse to bring back the old cast is bad writing.

I was personally looking forward to a cast of characters outside the Bureau. I was...disappointed a bit.
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Old 2011-02-12, 00:04   Link #200
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And how exactly do you know the author's intent? Did you peer inside his head and see that the Huckebein are that strong only so the old cast have people to fight? Hell, it's shown that Thoma can take them all down single handedly if he wanted to.

Besides, having people the heros can fight are the sole reason villains exist in the first place!
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