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Old 2011-08-10, 01:45   Link #3461
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Speaking of Vivid, since we already saw a cameo of Vivio and Heidi in Force do you think Touma would make an appearance in Vivid?
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Old 2011-08-10, 04:22   Link #3462
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I personally don't know, because when the Vivid series runs, Thoma was still in his village before the massacre occurred. Even then Lily and Isis are still doing their own activities before the three of them met.

So, if he already know Vivio, Thoma, surely he is also known Heidi, right? And that's not including her school friends.
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Old 2011-08-10, 06:53   Link #3463
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No, Thoma's home town was destroyed 7 years ago, meaning 5 years before Vivid. He met Subaru long before the events of Vivid.
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Old 2011-08-10, 07:05   Link #3464
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Oh, I see. By the time of ViViD, he still 13 years old, isn't it? Maybe by the time of ViViD he still venturing from one place to another place to find to find the perpetrators who committed genocide in the village where he lived, that called Vaizen?

Now more and more obvious. Thanks for the information, Raiser.
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Old 2011-08-10, 07:37   Link #3465
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He only started to travel fairly recently when Force began, he should still be around during Vivid. Remember though, he's living at an orphanage, not the Nakajima's. The reason he was traveling was to get some closure before being adopted.
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Old 2011-08-10, 08:39   Link #3466
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I guess we might meet Tohma probably after DSSA in Vivid. By the looks of it, Subaru and her family looks free at the time they invite Tohma to join the family. We might see the rocess along the way probably after the tournament. This means that Vivio, Einhart and all their friends will meet Tohma. There might be even a high chance for him to meet Lutecia if she still hang around after DSSA.
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Old 2011-08-10, 11:08   Link #3467
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I get the feeling that any appearance Touma makes in ViVid, it'll be a brief cameo like Vivio and Einhart in Force.

And we're starting to blur the lines of which series we're talking about again. Why, oh why did the mods break everything up? That was such a stupid move...
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Old 2011-08-10, 11:37   Link #3468
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So all the bitching about Signum stays in Force thread and don't spill over Vivid talk.
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Old 2011-08-10, 11:42   Link #3469
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So all the bitching about Signum stays in Force thread and don't spill over Vivid talk.
Yes, because that's really stopped Aki from bitching in the image and FFT threads.
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Old 2011-08-10, 11:50   Link #3470
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You want the other explanation? What made Vivid so special that it got its own thread for weeks while Force had to wait?
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Old 2011-08-10, 11:52   Link #3471
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You want the other explanation? What made Vivid so special that it got its own thread for weeks while Force had to wait?
Someone asked for a ViVid thread and no one asked for a Force thread until the Mods forced it.
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Old 2011-08-10, 11:57   Link #3472
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The fact of the matter is, the Nanoha franchise is so entwined with itself that cross-media discussions are frequent--there've been times in these two manga discussion threads that we've gone on about the other series because we forgot we were in the wrong thread.

The generalized discussion thread was fine and nobody had problems with it. And IIRC, the person who requested ViVid have its own thread was xris. A mod who was unfamiliar with the franchise and figured that the Nanoha manga thread was for the manga for the first season. Y'know, the manga that doesn't exist.
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Old 2011-08-10, 11:58   Link #3473
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It may be easier for some people to keep track of what manga a thread is about.
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Old 2011-08-10, 12:53   Link #3474
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Actually, the real reason is that the people who weren't interested in Force got tired of wading through the lengthy Force debates in search of any information on Vivid. So now instead of that, we're dealing with the whole "ohcrap, this is off-topic, isn't it?" problem.

Out of the frying pan, into the fire.
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Old 2011-08-10, 18:52   Link #3475
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I myself have no intention of touching ViVid with a twenty-foot Zanber, so I'm rather 0kay with this.
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Old 2011-08-10, 19:22   Link #3476
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And I'd prefer to keep the over the top complaints as far as Force or Vivid goes in their respective threads myself. :P I don't mind it, since I don't feel the manga are really that connected. Plus any Vivid conversation was rapidly drowned out in Force talks when they were mixed, which got old fast.
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Old 2011-08-10, 22:33   Link #3477
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Well, as Aki said, Force criticized for the way the pace of story is slow, the enemy is too hax, more violent than predecessor, and the plot taken too seriously. And for ViViD, for me no problem. But that makes me feel uncomfortable is too sweet to be followed, fanservice that up to eleven, and so far lacks antagonist character.


Especially for ViViD, personally I like Einhart. It does not matter if he is a rival who tries to find her true identity, and make friends. But when viewed from a dream in which Claus must defeat Olivie, I myself was worried if the case towards the last chapter, she ...

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Old 2011-08-10, 23:32   Link #3478
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For me, Force is one of those major crisis stories in Nanohaverse. In the prologue itself, this is the third major case happening on Midchilda. I agree the pacing is slow but I guess the author trying to maintain the shounen aspect of the battle which takes along time. I don't mind if it is a weekly manga but as a monthly manga, I guess it will probably take another 5 to 10 years to end? I guess Tsuzuki probably wants the manga end when Nanoha reach 25 in real time.

Vivid on the other hand is an expansion of the series. It gives us a better background of the world they are in. It is a little too sweet but hey just enjoy it.
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Old 2011-08-11, 00:44   Link #3479
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Has Seven Arcs done any mangas before this? If not they haven't adapted terribly well.
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Old 2011-08-11, 00:45   Link #3480
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I don't think they have. Up until Nanoha, all they did was porn.
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