AnimeSuki Forums

Register Forum Rules FAQ Members List Social Groups Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Go Back   AnimeSuki Forum > Anime Discussion > Older Series > Nanoha

Notices

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 2012-03-03, 12:58   Link #5781
Keroko
Adeptus Animus
*Author
 
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Age: 26
What, Signum befriending Cypha? And you're honestly surprised? Just what series have you been following?
__________________
Keroko is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2012-03-03, 14:19   Link #5782
Akiyoshi
The Flame Crussader
 
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
If anything, it's Cypha the one who befreinded Signum since she's the one who delivered the first asskicking xDU

....still in school, i'll post the thing in about 6 hours xD
__________________
May 29 2010-2014

...4 yeargo, the day after never would be the same

~The ASFB~
Akiyoshi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2012-03-03, 14:28   Link #5783
LostSome
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Canada
Quote:
Originally Posted by Justin_Brett View Post
Incompetent probably isn't the right word, yeah, since it wasn't really their fault. It just got decided that they had to lose. The Raptors, though - even if somebody tells you they're a civilian, you shouldn't just leave them be, guys.
What`s lamer ?
That the Raptors can`t make the different between a civilain and an enemy or...
they can be short-circuited by a taser ?
So much of working in extreme conditions...

I don`t see why everyone is so surprised that their equipments is failing...
They used it two months ago, more than enough time to come up with countermeasures.(The danger of showing your prototypes.)
And they even showed them how to do it... Subaru`s breaking of Thoma`s Divider and Thoma`s cutting the Forteress to pieces...
The Grandels are just using the same stategies.
__________________
Nyohohohoho ! It`s the law of the universe that only wizards die as virgins.
You can`t let yourself die as a virgin, right ?
-Old geezer.
LostSome is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2012-03-03, 15:17   Link #5784
00-Raiser
Burst Mode
*Author
 
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Windsor, Ontario
Age: 27
Send a message via AIM to 00-Raiser
Not like they'd be indestructable under any circumstances anyways.
__________________
00-Raiser is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2012-03-03, 16:37   Link #5785
Justin_Brett
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Canada, Sault Ste. Marie
Quote:
What, Signum befriending Cypha? And you're honestly surprised? Just what series have you been following?
Yeah, I kinda am, given the events that transpired in 6 and 7 and the many hours of being in a coma and intense rehabilitation that happened off-panel. And Signum being a different character from people who have done that.

I mean, did Nanoha decide to befriend Quattro after all the shit she pulled? No. The only interaction Signum has with Cypha is her being a horrible bitch, same as there.
Justin_Brett is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2012-03-03, 16:50   Link #5786
Rising Dragon
Goat Herder
*Author
 
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: The middle of the Middle of Nowhere
Age: 26
The difference between Nanoha and Quattro was that Nanoha was never a horrible bitch.

Signum, once upon a time, was a horrible bitch too who killed people. There's nothing here that says she can't sympathize with Cypha's situation, even if she doesn't condone it.
__________________
Rising Dragon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2012-03-03, 17:19   Link #5787
Justin_Brett
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Canada, Sault Ste. Marie
I dunno about that: the situation's similar, but the characters themselves are pretty different.
Justin_Brett is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2012-03-03, 17:43   Link #5788
Keroko
Adeptus Animus
*Author
 
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Age: 26
Vita was a horrible bitch who punted Nanoha nearly into a coma. Look how that turned out. Seriously, the only reason Quattro wasn't befriended was because Quattro chose to say no and stay a bitch (and even to most of her family she was a bitch. Bitch-lite, but still not a really nice girl. She saw most of them as tools), since we know Cypha can be nice, shes a potential befriending target same as anyone.
__________________
Keroko is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2012-03-03, 17:44   Link #5789
Nanya01
Left for TFF
*Author
 
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Frozen Hell of the North
Age: 31
Send a message via AIM to Nanya01
So...

The new bad guys have...

A Not!Vivio...

A happy Not!Vita...

And a Not!Saber...

Err, wait...

Olivie was Not!Saber...

So, they have a Not!Vivio and a Not!Olivie on their side?

...

Sheesh!
__________________

My fics Due to certain things, I am not here, find me over on TFF.
Nanya01 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2012-03-03, 18:56   Link #5790
Justin_Brett
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Canada, Sault Ste. Marie
I was talking about Signum, not Vita. And yeah, she was certainly the most rude and antagonist of them, which still carried into her role as a good guy somewhat, but she didn't do anything villainous besides trying to beat up the protagonist. If that was all Cypha did with Signum, I'd have far less of a problem with her.

Does that other girl really look like Saber? I didn't really see it - that might have been because of Not!Vivio though.
Justin_Brett is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2012-03-03, 18:59   Link #5791
Keroko
Adeptus Animus
*Author
 
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Age: 26
We knew the Hucks were villains right from the start. We also knew they were going to get befriended the moment Stella popped up. We also know that having a kill count does not disqualify you from befriending (even if you won't accept the Wolkie kill count, there's still Cinque).
__________________
Keroko is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2012-03-03, 18:59   Link #5792
Rising Dragon
Goat Herder
*Author
 
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: The middle of the Middle of Nowhere
Age: 26
Quote:
Originally Posted by Justin_Brett View Post
I was talking about Signum, not Vita. And yeah, she was certainly the most rude and antagonist of them, which still carried into her role as a good guy somewhat, but she didn't do anything villainous besides trying to beat up the protagonist. If that was all Cypha did with Signum, I'd have far less of a problem with her.
Yeah no. In that first fight, Vita was about to kill Nanoha, rule or no rule. Nanoha was already down for the count; she could've easily called in the others to harvest her Linker Core. But no, she was lifting up a spiked weapon again to strike her again.

Over a friggin' hat.

And look how she turned out. Cypha's in that same boat.
__________________
Rising Dragon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2012-03-03, 20:48   Link #5793
Akiyoshi
The Flame Crussader
 
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Quote:
Originally Posted by Justin_Brett View Post
I dunno about that: the situation's similar, but the characters themselves are pretty different.
Yup, while Signum was indeed a cold blooded killer, she was never a bitchy character like Cypha. Even Vita has more logical reasons to be like that than eye-patched psycho.

Vita near-killed Nanoha(and we didn't even know how that would be turned if Fate wasn't appeared, maybe Vita's comrades themselves would stop her from killing Nanoha, remeber that Signum and Shamal entered the scene very shortly after that) because she lost control of herself after seeing the gift of the most important person to her being destroyed by her prey. That don't justify her behavior by any means but still makes much more sense than Cypha's "lol, i'll kill you cuz i'm awesome" behavior xDU

Vita was rude cause she was a traumatized child-like girl holding deeply on the object of her affections. Cypha was a bitch just for the hell of it and also to leave the message of "we rulz, you suck, lol".

Quote:
Originally Posted by Justin_Brett View Post
Yeah, I kinda am, given the events that transpired in 6 and 7 and the many hours of being in a coma and intense rehabilitation that happened off-panel. And Signum being a different character from people who have done that.
That and the fact that Signum is really bad at befriending xDU The last time she attempted to do that ended up with her spine snapped on a hospital bed. And the time before that the "soon to be friend" died on her hands xDU

Signum needs to attend an intense befriending course with Nanoha to learn how it's done, it worked wonders for Subaru and Teana xD!

And now, the traditional half-baked summary of Ch. 21 xD!

Spoiler for Alpha, we need teenagers with attitude!:


PHEW! Big giant Wall of Text xDU! Lot's off stuff to comment but i'll wait a little since my brain is almost overheated, enjoy and wait for the more realiable english translation team to do their magic xD
__________________
May 29 2010-2014

...4 yeargo, the day after never would be the same

~The ASFB~

Last edited by Akiyoshi; 2012-03-03 at 21:00.
Akiyoshi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2012-03-03, 22:37   Link #5794
WarpObscura
Bibliophile
 
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: There's this dot on the world map...
Quote:
Originally Posted by LostSome View Post
What`s lamer ?
That the Raptors can`t make the different between a civilain and an enemy or...
they can be short-circuited by a taser ?
So much of working in extreme conditions...
Maybe an Eclipse combat-grade taser is far above a civilian/police grade one, just as you aren't supposed to use civilian-grade rounds for military action.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nanya01 View Post
So...

The new bad guys have...

A Not!Vivio...

A happy Not!Vita...

And a Not!Saber...

Err, wait...

Olivie was Not!Saber...

So, they have a Not!Vivio and a Not!Olivie on their side?

...

Sheesh!
So I herd you liek Vivio...
__________________

Yo dawg, I heard you like QB...

Thanks MAEt for the av!
WarpObscura is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2012-03-03, 23:01   Link #5795
Justin_Brett
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Canada, Sault Ste. Marie
Quote:
But Signum promises tohma that she'll "deal" with "his informant" if she can "convince her". Tohma thanks Signum, Isis is angry at Tohma and Lily hopes things will be fine.
That sounds a little less friendly in context.

And Touma needs to listen to Isis more.
Justin_Brett is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2012-03-03, 23:08   Link #5796
Akiyoshi
The Flame Crussader
 
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Quote:
Originally Posted by Justin_Brett View Post
That sounds a little less friendly in context.
Actually is very ambiguous since Signum's face isn't visible at the time of saying that xDU

But i agree with you that Signum should think her approach to Cypha very carefully, she must be aware by now that approaching Cypha with an "let's be freinds xD!" attitude more likely will end with another divider on her guts xDU

People like Cypha can only understand one way...
__________________
May 29 2010-2014

...4 yeargo, the day after never would be the same

~The ASFB~
Akiyoshi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2012-03-03, 23:10   Link #5797
Justin_Brett
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Canada, Sault Ste. Marie
Well I dunno, when one of the only cast members with a confirmed, on-screen kill says she's going to deal with someone, the conclusions one can draw aren't all that pleasant.
Justin_Brett is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2012-03-03, 23:14   Link #5798
Akiyoshi
The Flame Crussader
 
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Quote:
Originally Posted by Justin_Brett View Post
Well I dunno, when one of the only cast members with a confirmed, on-screen kill says she's going to deal with someone, the conclusions one can draw aren't all that pleasant.
One of the very last things i think could be cool for a rematch is that Signum, now councsious of Cypha's level of threat as also her seemingly immortal body, pull out all the stops and fights Cypha with a true killing intent. She know already that Cypha can withstand that and much more.
__________________
May 29 2010-2014

...4 yeargo, the day after never would be the same

~The ASFB~
Akiyoshi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2012-03-04, 01:16   Link #5799
Craxuan
Crax
*Author
 
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: MY
I'm sorry Justin, I really don't see how Signum meant to slaughter Cypha when she says to 'deal with her'. It's more like stating a fact: Depending on the situation, if we can convince Cypha then everything's fine; if not I'll fight her and keep you guys out of the way. It is definitely not the 'I'll kill her' kind of tone (I've read the chapter, just clarifying).
__________________
Craxuan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2012-03-04, 01:29   Link #5800
Akiyoshi
The Flame Crussader
 
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
^ Yeah, i know, specially since Tohma is worried for her, that's enough for Signum to reconsider things. And that plays into Cypha's advantage cause as she said, you must be prepared to kill if you're going to face her in battle, otherwise you'll end like ...well... like Signum. Oh the irony xDU
__________________
May 29 2010-2014

...4 yeargo, the day after never would be the same

~The ASFB~
Akiyoshi is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
manga, nanoha force

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 13:57.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
We use Silk.