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Old 2013-05-24, 04:46   Link #561
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This ought to be mentioned already, but I'll mention it for myself:

"He/she is not my boyfriend/girlfriend," "We're not going out" and any variants. Even if there's a reason to justify the use of this cliche I just can't take this, ever.
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Old 2013-05-24, 04:54   Link #562
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Well, people do that in real life most of the time.
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Old 2013-05-24, 12:41   Link #563
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Well, people do that in real life most of the time.
Plus it's cute.
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Old 2013-05-24, 18:28   Link #564
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A boy

A girl

Both have feelings for each other

Both are about to confess their feelings towards each other

The result? Annoying silence (sometimes stupid melancholic music) for loooong time with none of them can even open their mouth

Out of the blue, something completely random occurs and breaks the silence, so does their confessions

CONFESS THE FUCK OUT ALREADY, DAMMIT!
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Old 2013-05-24, 18:40   Link #565
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1. The thing is, unless you have REAL guts, confessing love to somebody is easier said than done.

2. You know a person doesn't love you enough when s/he can say "I love you" so easily. Odds are, s/he's just screwing with you.

3. It's a plot device. The surprise is no longer there once characters confess right away.
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Old 2013-05-24, 18:54   Link #566
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If it happens one time then I'm with Judas. But, if it happens more than a few times than yeah, Confess the FUCK already!!
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Old 2013-05-24, 19:23   Link #567
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I find the character about say something important then being cutoff by background noise kind of annoying.
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Old 2013-05-24, 19:51   Link #568
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Again, plot device. In those cases, they simply don't want to spoil something yet, but a perceptive enough viewer can know what it is ahead of time.
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Old 2013-05-24, 20:06   Link #569
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I won't argue it's a standard plot device...but when you are a shipper, it's frustrating as hell.

.........but that also means the director is doing their job, because if you're frustrated, that means you really care about the characters.
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Old 2013-05-24, 20:43   Link #570
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I am a shipper myself, but I don't really go that nuts when my ship doesn't sail through. If the build-up is slow, I take it to mean that the author/director is taking time. If my ship doesn't end up as canon, that's fine with me as long as they develop the canon ship well.

But yes, frustration over a seemingly failing ship means you really care about that ship,
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Old 2013-05-24, 21:08   Link #571
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I had given up on shipping on couples in shounen romance since ancient time. Because I know the MC will end up with the wrong girl in the end and the girls who like him who actually have likeable characters will be hurt in the end.
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Old 2013-05-24, 21:26   Link #572
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Well, that's the sad reality, and that happens in real life, too. You don't always end up with the best girl out there.

As for characters more likeable than the MC himself, I attribute it to either poor writing or the producers' need to make money.
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Old 2013-05-25, 09:54   Link #573
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a naked girl fell out of the sky with her assets landed spot on the main guy's face
same with the female demographic version with bishounens for you otome-shoujo fans

& somebody without a military background is capable of standing toe to toe with a war veteran
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Old 2013-05-25, 13:42   Link #574
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I had given up on shipping on couples in shounen romance since ancient time. Because I know the MC will end up with the wrong girl in the end and the girls who like him who actually have likeable characters will be hurt in the end.

Odd...I feel exactly the opposite.
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Old 2013-05-25, 15:14   Link #575
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'Not too foreign'

It seems that every other foreign character turns out to be half Japanese. While anime is hardly the only medium to do this, it gets ridiculous that every foreigner we see is actually 1/4 Japanese.
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Old 2013-05-25, 18:04   Link #576
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Odd...I feel exactly the opposite.
I was talking about Love Hina, Toradora, ZnT and the like. You know? MC who always end up with dominatrix while the genuinely kind and sincere girls just gotten hurt in the end. It's just unbearable and irritating to watch
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Old 2013-05-25, 20:18   Link #577
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I was talking about Love Hina, Toradora, ZnT and the like. You know? MC who always end up with dominatrix while the genuinely kind and sincere girls just gotten hurt in the end. It's just unbearable and irritating to watch
Well, I happen to like tsundere characters. Besides, everybody knows the tsundere's passion is the absolute strongest.
And characters who have no social problems from the start like the "perfect, kind sincere" ones are complete snoresville. It doesn't work if the lead is also a completely nice person...because nice, perfect guy+nice, perfect girl=boring x infinity.
The only exception I make for this is if the two characters seem to have a bond that is superior than the rest of the cast. Which is why I'm Team Eu instead of Team Haruna for Zombie Desuka? All the way.
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Old 2013-05-30, 17:23   Link #578
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I know it's supposed to be because she's supposed to be relatable to the audience(women) but how come we can't have a smart female MC when it comes to otome/male harem type of series? I mean, Haruka is quite intelligent enough that she can compose pop songs in UtaPri, but she basically looks stoned whenever one of the Starfish confesses their feelings to her. I liked Chizuru in Hakuoki, but all she does is basically serve as fodder for rescue mostly(though she did spy for the Shisengumi). And the chick in Amnesia is as smart as a box of cathair.


I'm sure most women want to see a buttkicking, smart woman who also gets any man she wants. Saiunkuoku is the only series like this where the female MC was as smart and terrific as the males were....


And this applies to reverse harems too: Most leads of these type of series are even dumber than a Kardashian.
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Old 2013-05-30, 18:49   Link #579
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I think it has to do with the social environment that one grows up in. The author obviously will have a bias one way or the other - stupid females or stupid males. NANA is the drama anime I have seen that doesn't have more than a couple of naive characters.

Like this(sorry, I have GOT to rant on this). Shirou(from F S/N) telling Saber(a Knight) that a girl shouldn't be swinging a sword about AFTER she saves his ass. So, yeah...the biases developed when growing up are kind of hard to get rid off I guess. Doesn't mean its not annoying (I swear to Kratos, I will kill Shirou if he was a real person).
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Old 2013-05-30, 18:54   Link #580
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I know it's supposed to be because she's supposed to be relatable to the audience(women)...
Bingo. You answered your own question before even raising it.

And really, it's no different than most male leads in harem shows. So why would you expect female leads in reverse harem shows to be any better?

The true star of the harem shows (including reverse harems) are typically the harem members, not the character they revolve around.
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