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Old 2011-10-31, 09:29   Link #241
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You're right that he clearly didn't think this all the way through. (I like the two choices! ) But actually, I think there's something in Episode 4 that tips us off here too -- at lunch, he was surprised that she took the promise seriously. So I guess he probably didn't actually think that far ahead, and thought only that it'd diffuse the current tension and that she'd either forget about it or he could brush it off later by making some excuse. I guess he thought it through about as well as when she invited him over to her house in front of everyone (getting closer to that option 2 already! ).
Option two would have been refreshing but a little too mature, maybe. I don't think he meant it seriously either, as I said, I thought it was a bluff but it was a really bad/shortsighted/perplexing bluff from someone in his position and given what he told us about himself in Ep.4. You're right that it was a fun little duality that both he and Airi made these offers without thinking about what they were saying, and that were very easily taken the wrong way. The only difference was that Airi had just found herself in a new atmosphere whereas Shingo did it in his usual stride (just without thinking about what he was getting himself in, apparently).

Maybe we can still hold out hope for another such series of not-thought-out events ending up in Option2?


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Cheers to that! If I were to make a list of "cutest VN heroines of all time", Airi would definitely make the list (along with Sana). Truthfully, if they gave me nothing but lots of that in this anime, I'd probably be totally satisfied -- I'm not that hard to please.
Cheers to that.
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Old 2011-10-31, 11:49   Link #242
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Reading your posts Vena and Flame i'm in a loss to see how is his proposition of having her tutoring him could turn thing for worse? It was merely a very simple tool to give her an excuse to leave.

What came to my mind if Shingo is person who avoids tensions how he gonna deal with Sana who is an obstacle to get to Miu? Would not it be more reasonable for him to keep distance from Miu all together. He doesn't seem to suffer from typical "gotta save damsel in distress" syndrome. I would be very surprised if he stirs some problems up to resolve problems instead of avoiding frictions.
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Old 2011-10-31, 12:39   Link #243
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Reading your posts Vena and Flame i'm in a loss to see how is his proposition of having her tutoring him could turn thing for worse? It was merely a very simple tool to give her an excuse to leave.

What came to my mind if Shingo is person who avoids tensions how he gonna deal with Sana who is an obstacle to get to Miu? Would not it be more reasonable for him to keep distance from Miu all together. He doesn't seem to suffer from typical "gotta save damsel in distress" syndrome. I would be very surprised if he stirs some problems up to resolve problems instead of avoiding frictions.
Well... I think that's sort of over-simplifying his motivation a bit. He's not trying to avoid conflict, he's trying to diffuse conflict. In the process, he puts all the burden on himself, goes out of his way to be helpful, and puts on a fake smile so people won't be mad anymore rather than express any frustration or anger. So if he remains true to form based on what he just said, we can assume that his next step might be to try to diffuse the conflict with Sana in a similar way to how he diffused the situation with Airi, which is sort of "kill them with kindness". Basically, he does put himself in situations where conflict will arise, but he doesn't attack or retaliate, which eventually forces the other side to back down ("if they're itching for a fight I won't give them one", or sort of "turn the other cheek").

As for how the study session could have gone bad... well, if they were still as "high tension" as they were before Airi's secret was revealed, but she still insisted on following through with her promise and tutoring him, I imagine it wouldn't not have been a very "pleasant" study session. It probably still would have worked out, since Shingo could still follow his "kill them with kindness" technique, but if something had gone wrong it could have made things that much worse between them. So it was a bit of a gamble on his part that she probably wouldn't take him up on it seriously and would just use the excuse to leave, since he figured an excuse was what she was looking for but couldn't give herself due to her pride.
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Old 2011-10-31, 15:14   Link #244
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After watching four episodes I realized that I felt like Miu has been a seriously big driving force. Well, somewhat offscreen, that is.

I had some inquiry on it so I'll tag spoilers.

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I might have remembered something wrong but I am definitely interested to see which direction Manglobe decides to do. I originally thought Miu fits great as a supporting senpai but that's a lot more offscreen pro activity than I expected now that I think about it.

And on the flow thing, it's critical. I remember a friend I know who saw Hoshikaka thought it was weird to have a flashback with a character but not be the lead girl.
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Old 2011-10-31, 15:45   Link #245
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amoirsp: I don't think all of your questions have anime-based answers, so you might have to direct some of these questions towards the game thread if you want more information (though I think the answers will come in the anime if you give it time). I'll answer what I can though, only based on what we've seen in the anime...

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Old 2011-10-31, 18:22   Link #246
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Old 2011-10-31, 20:42   Link #247
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Alright, I'll just look forward to the upcoming episodes.
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Old 2011-10-31, 22:32   Link #248
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I am not sure what Miu is focusing on, whether she's focusing on the whole cast or on Shingo specifically. Some good points have been raised that I could see being taken to mean either one. She could definitely fit the role of caring senior who's out to get her underclassmen together and understanding one another. She could also be doing this all for Shingo because she saw through his facade.

You could easily argue that she is taking care of her underclassmen in the same way she is taking care of the injured animals. That she took in Shingo in order to give him a place to belong while she helped him find him place in the school and in a better atmosphere. Or... you could just as easily think she's just as enamored as Airi.
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Old 2011-10-31, 22:50   Link #249
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You could easily argue that she is taking care of her underclassmen in the same way she is taking care of the injured animals. That she took in Shingo in order to give him a place to belong while she helped him find him place in the school and in a better atmosphere. Or... you could just as easily think she's just as enamored as Airi.
Yup, and this is again where I'd simply say that it helps to remember the source. These are games where, based on a common foundation/base setting, many different possibilities can be explored. So the fact that it isn't all clear and we don't know it all yet simply means that there is more to be revealed and doors that have yet to be closed. And at this point in the story, I think that's a good thing. Time will tell...
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Old 2011-10-31, 23:57   Link #250
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I guess if I had to say what I think this series has been so far is mellow but a sizable dollop of Sappy slapped on

It certainly gives off a odd feeling, you can't mistake ithat it is a VN adaptation but not the usual kind we get.

It doesn't have many cliches in the typical sense concerning what this is yet has it's moments, that won't let you forget what this is as well.

Good stuff.

4 eps in now, gotta say really liking the ED, much more than the OP.

"Bring Bring Love, Bring Bring Spell~" <--it's soooooooooo catchy
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Old 2011-11-01, 08:58   Link #251
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Airi having some money issues, but working hard.
It's never easy living on your own.
Hanging out at her apartment was pretty fun ^^
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Old 2011-11-01, 09:02   Link #252
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I am not sure what Miu is focusing on, whether she's focusing on the whole cast or on Shingo specifically. Some good points have been raised that I could see being taken to mean either one. She could definitely fit the role of caring senior who's out to get her underclassmen together and understanding one another. She could also be doing this all for Shingo because she saw through his facade.
It would be interesting, if Miu has been able to see though Shingo's facade. It may not necessarily be a too important trait, but I would somehow like it to be true. She's obviously very good in providing relaxed atmosphere/tension-relieving atmosphere + is - at least a bit - attracted to Shingo (as seen by her blushing in the latest episode). From the existing sources, I think Shingo can be glad to have encountered Pannya which in turn lead him to meet Miu .
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Old 2011-11-01, 15:14   Link #253
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Old 2011-11-01, 15:15   Link #254
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Old 2011-11-01, 15:28   Link #255
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Old 2011-11-01, 17:06   Link #256
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Old 2011-11-01, 18:26   Link #257
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Old 2011-11-01, 20:12   Link #258
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Old 2011-11-02, 00:01   Link #259
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I don't know if it's the MASSIVE levels of dere being unleashed in every direction, but episode 4 has shot my interest in this show to new heights and despite what I've said in the last few weeks about Uryuu, he suddenly became alot more entertaining to watch in this episode, damn VN leads and their ability to say the right things...

The only thing I thought was strange was the sudden 180 with Sana, it's like now that Sena has accepted the guys they needed someone else to pick up her slack

(Looking back now, it was sort of mentioned in the synopsis right? But they certainly did a good job hiding it for the last 3 weeks... )


Time to jump into the 5th episode.
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Old 2011-11-02, 01:05   Link #260
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Just watched episode 3. I'm loving this series so far. Sena is SO cute. 8D

Both the OP and ED are so good.
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