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Old 2011-08-14, 21:26   Link #1181
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You know, there's one more chekov's gun here that people haven't considered: A few episodes back Kotetsu described how he choose the name "Wild Tiger" has his superhero identity to the other heroes…
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Old 2011-08-14, 21:58   Link #1182
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You know what`s the best part of this episode and in fact of the whole series: Things can go anywhere and twist anyway and it will still feel logical or well done.

People complain about Maverick`s plan full of loopholes, but come one people!!! Jake`s terrorist assault also was full of holes and missing threads, and personally I think Maverick actually underated Jake and was very close to loosing everything. The same can be said about his plan to convice Barnaby`s parrents not to give him away to the police. So Maverick`s plan-making abilities aren`t that good from the beginning.

Now, many people say that Lunatic will help Kotetsu, but I disagree. I can imagine Lunatic having a small talk with Kotetsu about what is going on and figure out what happened. Then Lunatic will go back to his base, and make a plan to destroy Maverick, Hero TV, and all the hero system.

About Kaede, I think Maverick is going to go and capture/kill Kotetsu`s family. In fact, I can see poor Kaede hearing his dad`s phone call about how he is innocent and got framed, when the MiB pops and kill her family while she holds her mom`s funeral picture in her dad`s room. And suddenly Kaede goes Rogue`s mode and get away!



Now, with all this said, I am giving away the crazy theory of the week for the last 5 episodes:
1) Kotetsu will be in a pinch. And out of desesperation, goes red mode and defeat/incapacite all heroes.

2) Kotetsu will then say that he is willing to give himself in if he is defeated in a duel against Wild Tiger and Bunny!

3) Maverick has to accept, but instead of a duel it becomes a Royal Rumble. Somewhere along the line the heroe`s mind will pop back and realize what`s going on (my bet is Blue Rose will be the first to notice). Kaede will pop around to give courage to his dad.

4) Maverick see that everything is about to collapse, and Lunatic pops to judge him and make everything public. Yet Ouroboros top brass makes an appearance and kills Maverick before he spoils everything.


6) A very injured Kotetsu is captured by Ouroboros and taken away.


And next season (5-10 years time skip), it will be Dragon and Tigeress/Kaede. XD And somewhere midseason, it will be Kaede vs a Cyborg/Terminator Kotetsu.
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Old 2011-08-14, 22:00   Link #1183
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Albert Maverick really deserves the family name "Maverick":-

One who does not abide by rules.
One who creates or uses unconventional and/or controversial ideas or practices.


Or you can take Urban Dictionary's definition:

A shameless pandering liar. One whose ambition is fueled by an angry sense of entitlement.

He's sorta become an another Albert Wesker (Resident evil). I mean he doesn't gave a damn for himself.
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Old 2011-08-14, 22:27   Link #1184
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Maverick's plan is full of loopholes - of course it is. It's the plan of a complete megalomaniac who thinks he can manipulate the world and anyone in it to his own ends. Those guys are always brought down by overreaching, especially in superhero comics. In short - it's perfect.
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Old 2011-08-15, 00:42   Link #1185
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No comments about how incredibly shoddy some of the animation was in this episode? Some of the scenes were so off model I was laughing at how bad it was. Surely Sunrise could give this show a little more budget now that it's been shown to be a hit?
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Old 2011-08-15, 00:53   Link #1186
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I tried not to mention it but yeah, this episode may have been one of the worst in that regard. And I'm usually extremely tolerant in that area. I have this bizarre idea that it's exactly because Tiger & Bunny is doing so well that we keep getting these shoddy looking episodes (that get a subsequent touch-up for DVD/BR release). I guess Sunrise feels that less popular series, like Sacred Seven, can use all the help they can get.
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Old 2011-08-15, 03:14   Link #1187
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Maverick has always been a high risk player. He could have easily wiped the memories of Bunny's parents but killed them instead.

But this was one great twist. Tiger now has everybody on his ass. He's also in a weakened state as well.

Wait doesn't that taxi driver guy (Tiger's former manager) know who Tiger really is? That's an enormous loophole.

Normally I hate amnesia plot twists but the way Maverick went about this, I can't hate it.
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Old 2011-08-15, 04:20   Link #1188
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So will the finale episode it's gonna be a full length movie (because it will show in theaters as well) then?

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Old 2011-08-15, 07:06   Link #1189
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So will the finale episode it's gonna be a full length movie (because it will show in theaters as well) then?
last-tiger-and-bunny-episode-to-run-in-theaters-in-japan

It seems it will be a normal episode, yet they want to make a "all night" special after that. My bet is that they will run the whole show again with director`s comments.
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Old 2011-08-15, 08:42   Link #1190
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So what happened to the Ouroboros sign on the hand of Barnaby's parents' murderer? It is proven to be Maverick, but he is not part of Ouroboros.

Did Maverick create a false image in order to drive Barnaby to this conclusion? And now at this point, decides that Barnaby should believe Ouroboros is history?
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Old 2011-08-15, 09:25   Link #1191
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Maverick created and planted the false memories into Barnaby so he would become a Hero and so that Maverick could make more money.
He now wiped Barnaby's memory about discovering the truth and Barnaby believes that he killed his parent's killer and that there is no more Ouroboros.
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Old 2011-08-15, 10:48   Link #1192
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I stayed out of this thread until I saw episode 20. Boy, am I glad I did. I wasn't expecting how things turned out in the least. Kotetsu is now wanted for murder? Never expected that to happen. I think Maverick has tried to change too much too quickly. He's got to hope that the Kotetsu will be killed soon before his plans start to unravel. This elaborate widespread memory change scheme needed to be carefully planned to be successful. I don't think he's thought it through thoroughly enough for it to hold up as long as Kotetsu remains alive.
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Old 2011-08-15, 12:05   Link #1193
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after the reveal i actually guessed the framing plot twist was coming still it all went down quite fast.

As for maverick, his ability seems to have a touch head only limitation so I'm assuming he killed them in the heat of the moment as they were already calling the cops because he couldn't just reach over and glow hand them in the face.

Anyone else expecting tiger to pull out his old costume at some point?

As a side note we do know that the mind screw can be undone by contradictions in memory, so it's possible he could free people that way.
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Old 2011-08-15, 15:52   Link #1194
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All I could think of after seeing the latest episode is:

YOOOOOOO DAMMMMMMNNNNN!
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Old 2011-08-16, 00:06   Link #1195
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Kaede should take over her father's spot as a Hero!



Spoiler for That's my girl! - Kotetsu:

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Old 2011-08-16, 00:22   Link #1196
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Wait, does Kaede find out about him and Wild Tiger next ep?

I think that might be her holding the magazine with Wild Tiger in the preview.(?)
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Old 2011-08-16, 02:35   Link #1197
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Dammit Maverick, you surpassed Jake for being worse a**hole this episode. Now I want to pop that acne of yours...

Still not sure what will Yuri do about Koutetsu. I vaguely remember on the episode when Koutetsu cracked his Lunatic mask, he saw Koutetsu file later that night. So I think thanks to his position he know Heroes secret identity. So yeah, I can see he helps Koutetsu in future episode but maybe with his own way ^^
I wonder if Maverick also plan to take care Ben and Koutetsu's family.

The preview is hilarious. I always like when Koutetsu does the narration and how he avoids to speak english XD
And the final scene where we can see Blue Rose's shadow on the sewer is awesome.


Btw, some fanfics I got
Spoiler for Poor Antonio always hugged by Nathan on group pics:

Spoiler for So his beard is two cats? XD:

Spoiler for Dragon Kid is scaaary:



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Thanks for the info and spoilers. It makes the wait feels heavier XD

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Old 2011-08-16, 06:28   Link #1198
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Well, I almost literally just found out about this series (and that the character design was by Masakazu Katsura, one of my favorite artists) and I did a nice marathon this past weekend - LOVE the series to bits. Kotetsu is a refreshing sort of protagonist (slightly older sort-of family man, as opposed to the regular teenager guys) and the rest of the characters are actually nice, instead of simply filling.

So, thanks for keeping this thread alive and let's see Wild Tiger kicking some butt and destroying more buildings next episode, shall we? Oh, and his daughter seems like one of the best bets for helping him, this time around. Would love to see a father/daughter duo over this.

Also, as a final addendum, they are managing the superhero genre way better than most guys at DC and Marvel, these days. Who would have thought?
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Old 2011-08-16, 07:14   Link #1199
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Ah ah ah, this one is great Poor Paolin When it comes to design, I think Paolin is one of my fav thanks to her Bruce Lee outfit and her hair (love the color).

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Also, as a final addendum, they are managing the superhero genre way better than most guys at DC and Marvel, these days. Who would have thought?

Me ! It's not surprising at all and not difficult at all. Right now, DC's and Marvel's comics are not good at all especially Marvel and it's mostly due to how comics work.
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You're probably right.

Also, anyone else really wants poor Karina to hook up with Kotetsu? Or do you prefer he stays with Bunny? I'm all for the young girl with the older guy, myself - but the subtle yaoi would be actually interesting, this time. No trolling, just genuine curiosity. Although, in all honesty, he should tend to his daughter's needs, first.
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