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Old 2012-04-19, 12:24   Link #741
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I don't believe that she had orgies either, she seems changed from that at least. But I find it hard to believe that she did not have had sex with other guys, with romance dinner or a simple one-night banging when in the morning you dont remember the others face all that much. The story did not change the perception of her character that much to imagine that she went on the 3.5 years of celibacy. Its more possible with Nitta, but I am not sure either.
I don't understand why you are dwelling over this. Kano has become a much more mature person compared to the start of story. That's really all the story is getting at. Whether she had one-night stands with someone during the time gap is, frankly, not really the point.
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Old 2012-04-19, 13:44   Link #742
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After what has happened between the two: even if Kano is in need of some physical love, I think she would just have paid a visit to Nitta instead of spending the night with some "random person" who may not be able to satisfy her.
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Old 2012-04-19, 15:05   Link #743
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Your reading "comprehension" astounds me. Never before have I seen someone use a detail completely absent from the story to interpret the plot.

I appreciate your value in wholesome sex with love or whatever, but when you bring in something like a one-night stand that isn't even hinted in the story, you're no longer discussing the story but asserting and imposing your own values.
I am mostly commenting on the way the character portrait was created and presented and while Kano is indeed showed to have grown more mature (thus the orgy are much more unlikely, her character was still presented with such strong sex drive that its hard to imagine that she indeed went through all these years 'staying faithful Nitta' particulalry when there was no obligation for it to begin with.
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Old 2012-04-19, 15:55   Link #744
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I am mostly commenting on the way the character portrait was created and presented and while Kano is indeed showed to have grown more mature (thus the orgy are much more unlikely, her character was still presented with such strong sex drive that its hard to imagine that she indeed went through all these years 'staying faithful Nitta' particulalry when there was no obligation for it to begin with.
Yeah i totally agree she probably slept around more then a thousand times since we think 3.5 is long , people doesnt change that easily .
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Old 2012-04-19, 19:07   Link #745
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Okay granted that people don't change that easily, but to me, Kano's look at the epilogue, showed us a sign of her "closure" of her past, and how she was able to move on from what happened in her life.

I suppose it goes without saying that the "things that happen once, will happen again" but to me, it showed that Kano was able to face her "demon" and start over with a new change and a new look.

Plus, she's managing a business and broadening her horizons by going to a foreign country she's unfamiliar with, and waiting to return to the arms of a man whom she's obviously in love with. If that's not starting over, then I don't know, there's just no please some people.
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Old 2012-04-19, 19:36   Link #746
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Okay granted that people don't change that easily, but to me, Kano's look at the epilogue, showed us a sign of her "closure" of her past, and how she was able to move on from what happened in her life.

I suppose it goes without saying that the "things that happen once, will happen again" but to me, it showed that Kano was able to face her "demon" and start over with a new change and a new look.

Plus, she's managing a business and broadening her horizons by going to a foreign country she's unfamiliar with, and waiting to return to the arms of a man whom she's obviously in love with. If that's not starting over, then I don't know, there's just no please some people.
I dont think there is even a possibility that they will be together since she took her fathers business , if they married after her aunt arrested that was the right time but after 3.5 years it only seemed nitta was worried abaut her thats all . I dont think nitta will be able to marry kano anymore since she is rich young and future president of the company what will nitta do araund her , be her thropy husband ? The moment kano went to her fathers side their relationship was finished , i just wanted author to give nitta a happy family since he could have married in these 3.5 years but that didnt happen too .
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Old 2012-04-19, 20:53   Link #747
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You have to consider that Nitta is quite happy with his ordinary life. So a return to his normal life is a good ending in some sense. He just isn't the type of man to marry the heir of a big corporation. Nitta and Kano belong to different worlds. So this really is the more realistic and sensible outcome.
It definitely is. And after some time, Nitta could gain enough business experience and all to be a better fit. And Kanoko had some things to learn about the real world since her aunt made sure she was sheltered.

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I'd say she's loved him longer than he's loved her. She wanted him to come with her, but he said he'd wait for her. I'd say that even now this is a one-sided love, with Kano loving Nitta the most.
Kano definitely has stronger feelings but Nitta is still partial to her. He may not love her, but there is a soft spot for her.

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After what has happened between the two: even if Kano is in need of some physical love, I think she would just have paid a visit to Nitta instead of spending the night with some "random person" who may not be able to satisfy her.
Yeah, it was never said that they didn't see each other during the time skip. Plus the reasons she had for having promiscuous sex are gone and she cut off all ties with her fake friends. And honestly... it doesn't matter.
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Old 2012-04-19, 22:54   Link #748
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I am mostly commenting on the way the character portrait was created and presented and while Kano is indeed showed to have grown more mature (thus the orgy are much more unlikely, her character was still presented with such strong sex drive that its hard to imagine that she indeed went through all these years 'staying faithful Nitta' particulalry when there was no obligation for it to begin with.
A flawed argument.

1) A strong sex drive does not guarantee more casual sex. One word: masturbation.

2) This is not just porn. The characters are not hedonistic. Remember that this is a Harumi Chihiro manga. Considering how tame her manga are, chances that she would will Kano to relapse into having casual sex and one-night stands are low.

3) Even in the case that Kano somehow does relapse and satisfy your preconceived notions, she is responsible enough to make sure she doesn't get knocked up. Even in your favorite orgy chapter, there was no evidence that she let any of them ejaculate bareback inside.


I do agree however that it's very possible for Kano and Nitta to find different lovers. Nitta did mention in the final chapter that he would have to get married eventually.
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Old 2012-04-19, 23:36   Link #749
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I do agree however that it's very possible for Kano and Nitta to find different lovers. Nitta did mention in the final chapter that he would have to get married eventually.
Well as they say "time/love waits for no one" so the ending justified those means.
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Old 2012-04-20, 00:18   Link #750
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I thought it was a good ending for what it was. Kano grew up from being a party girl rich kid to a responsible adult getting into the family business. She gained a friend in Nitta that had more meaning than her other friends in the past.

The only thing I wish I got to see was a comeuppance for Yuki and that fake girlfriend, Yuka. I guess for Yuki to not get the girl he wanted and end up being used as a tool by Kano's mom is something, but I wanted to see that living an irresponsible life would get you nowhere. Where Kano grew up and is working for herself and becoming successful, I would want to see the opposite for Yuki who just relies on daddy's pocketbook. As for Yuka, I guess she served her purpose and she was just doing a job but still I don't like the feeling that she got away with what she did to Nitta.
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Old 2012-07-11, 17:28   Link #751
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Look what I got in the mail today!

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The first few pages are color and it's a nice size book. I'm quite impressed. My only complaint is categorizing it as hentai (they have it on the back of the book). I think that word has a poor stigma... mature or something similar would be better.

Now... where do I put it so no one finds it...
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Old 2012-07-11, 18:53   Link #752
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Old 2012-07-11, 19:11   Link #753
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^ Put in under your bed like what most shounen will do
lol you know I think every adult male will forever find this amusing as they must have done this when they were a kid as well, cause I sure did
Now I just put everything up on the shelf even the questionable stuff but atm only questionable thing I have is probably my colour edition of HotD but even then I got that wrapped up, don't won't any dust getting to that.

Which brings me to this as just a a little while back I saw pre-orders going up but I'm actually 2 minds on whether I should get it.
I liked this series and all but I really wonder if it's worth it tbh.
Nothing quite outstanding about it apart the art(altho not to say art alone hasn't sold a manga before) but there are alot of other stuff I would prefer to sink my teeth into other than this(most of all wanting to get more of Spice and Wolf atm)
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Old 2012-07-11, 19:24   Link #754
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Look what I got in the mail today!

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The first few pages are color and it's a nice size book. I'm quite impressed. My only complaint is categorizing it as hentai (they have it on the back of the book). I think that word has a poor stigma... mature or something similar would be better.

Now... where do I put it so no one finds it...
Good god Kano is fantastic. I kind of want to read it again just from seeing that picture.
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Old 2012-07-11, 20:00   Link #755
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lol you know I think every adult male will forever find this amusing as they must have done this when they were a kid as well, cause I sure did
I never did. Hell, this is the first 18+ anything that I've ever had. I ended up putting it on my shelf. There isn't anything that makes the spine stand out and no one really goes in my room, let alone look at my bookshelf.

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Now I just put everything up on the shelf even the questionable stuff but atm only questionable thing I have is probably my colour edition of HotD but even then I got that wrapped up, don't won't any dust getting to that.
How do you wrap it?

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Which brings me to this as just a a little while back I saw pre-orders going up but I'm actually 2 minds on whether I should get it.
I liked this series and all but I really wonder if it's worth it tbh.
Nothing quite outstanding about it apart the art(altho not to say art alone hasn't sold a manga before) but there are alot of other stuff I would prefer to sink my teeth into other than this(most of all wanting to get more of Spice and Wolf atm)
I love the art and enjoyed the story plus I want to support the author. I only buy what I truly love and what I would read again and again.
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Good god Kano is fantastic. I kind of want to read it again just from seeing that picture.
Yes, she is superb. Such a great cover.
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Old 2012-07-11, 22:48   Link #756
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Dragon where did you order that from? I have had it on preorder ever since it was announced at amazon and they sent me an email a few weeks ago saying it was pushed back to next year. Even now on their website it still says its not released. I am just going to cancel and get it where you got it from.
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Old 2012-07-12, 17:09   Link #757
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Dragon where did you order that from? I have had it on preorder ever since it was announced at amazon and they sent me an email a few weeks ago saying it was pushed back to next year. Even now on their website it still says its not released. I am just going to cancel and get it where you got it from.
I ordered it from FAKKU when it was first available for pre-order.
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Old 2012-07-12, 17:15   Link #758
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I ordered it from FAKKU when it was first available for pre-order.

Actually Fakku doesn't allow DL right? I've encountered Velvet Kiss there. Too bad when I decided to read it, its already done or I say gone...
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Old 2012-07-12, 18:15   Link #759
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Actually Fakku doesn't allow DL right? I've encountered Velvet Kiss there. Too bad when I decided to read it, its already done or I say gone...
Yes, they and the scanlator took it down to promote the purchasing of the official release.
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This got a live action and seems like it has already been released on dvd.
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