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Old 2006-09-16, 11:39   Link #1
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Creating Fansubs - Questions and Answers

iv started to use substation alpha and save a clear file and saved it into a ssa file format then used subtittle workshop and opened the ssa file and started to make the subtittles for the movie, afterwards when it was done, i saved the files still ass ssa on subtittle workshop then draged the files also with the movie avi into submux and it created another avi files with no subs!! what did i do wrong here? anyone point me out?
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Old 2006-09-16, 11:56   Link #2
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What you did wrong:
1. You put softsubs into AVI
2. You tried to watch softsubs without a softsub renderer

The solution for #1 is to use a better container format, like MKV. (you could also hardsub, but that requires reencoding and isn't as nice)
As for 2, install VSFilter (or just get CCCP). Or you could watch it in MPlayer, which can render subs by itself.
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17:43:13 <~deculture> Also, TheFluff, you are so fucking slowpoke.jpg that people think we dropped the DVD's.
17:43:16 <~deculture> nice job, fag!

01:04:41 < Plorkyeran> it was annoying to typeset so it should be annoying to read
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Old 2006-09-16, 12:30   Link #3
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i just wanted to enbed the subs into the avi file, what do i have to do?
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Old 2006-09-16, 12:44   Link #4
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just having the ssa file made with the texts and the avi u can emerge them together with submux can you?
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Old 2006-09-16, 12:53   Link #5
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i just wanted to enbed the subs into the avi file
No, you really don't want to do that. It's a bad idea, there's a reason noone uses it. Just because you CAN do it doesn't mean you SHOULD.

Er. Well. If you really HAVE to, the way to go is to use AviMuxGUI. But to view them, you STILL need vsfilter.
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17:43:13 <~deculture> Also, TheFluff, you are so fucking slowpoke.jpg that people think we dropped the DVD's.
17:43:16 <~deculture> nice job, fag!

01:04:41 < Plorkyeran> it was annoying to typeset so it should be annoying to read
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Old 2006-09-16, 13:15   Link #6
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Hey guy, what you need is the vobsub package from http://www.afterdawn.com/software/vi...ols/vobsub.cfm

I dunno if vsfilter is the same thing or better or what, but after you install this, you just use the textsub filter to hardsub the SSA file into your AVI. You can also do hardsubbing from within avisynth, but that's neither here nor there.

HE WANTS HARDSUBBED AVI, PEOPLE. NOT SOFTSUBS OR MKVs. >.>
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Old 2006-09-16, 13:34   Link #7
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Hey guy, what you need is the vobsub package from http://www.afterdawn.com/software/vi...ols/vobsub.cfm
No, that's actually not what you want either, even if you wanted to hardsub.

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I dunno if vsfilter is the same thing or better
VSfilter is basically the same thing but about 15 versions and 3-4 years newer. That VobSub version you linked to is an ancient bug-ridden evil that should NOT be used.

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HE WANTS HARDSUBBED AVI, PEOPLE. NOT SOFTSUBS OR MKVs. >.>
Cool, you're a telepath? Because that's certainly not what he makes it sound like.
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17:43:13 <~deculture> Also, TheFluff, you are so fucking slowpoke.jpg that people think we dropped the DVD's.
17:43:16 <~deculture> nice job, fag!

01:04:41 < Plorkyeran> it was annoying to typeset so it should be annoying to read
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Old 2006-09-16, 20:45   Link #8
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i just want the same type of avi other ppl fansub.
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Old 2006-09-16, 20:50   Link #9
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Use VirtualDub/VirtualDubMod and load the sub file using TextSub in the filter section...
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Old 2006-09-17, 02:43   Link #10
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Ah. Well, what Starks said. To elaborate a bit:
1. Get VSFilter 2.37 from http://sourceforge.net/projects/guliverkli
2. Rename the .dll to .vdf and put it in your Virtualdub plugins folder
3. Add TextSub as a video filter
4. Encode
5. ???
6. PROFIT!
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17:43:13 <~deculture> Also, TheFluff, you are so fucking slowpoke.jpg that people think we dropped the DVD's.
17:43:16 <~deculture> nice job, fag!

01:04:41 < Plorkyeran> it was annoying to typeset so it should be annoying to read
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Old 2006-09-17, 10:45   Link #11
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Use VirtualDub/VirtualDubMod and load the sub file using TextSub in the filter section...
thanx bro, u know at i had the program already thought it was crap so didnt touch it got it working ppl thanx! one last thing, can u adjust the size the format when saving the sub and avi on virtualdub?
also so what was submux used for anyways? iv downloaded soo many programs.

-edit, iv got the enbedded file, but theres a problem, why do i have a very slow framrate animation? movie runs very slow, what do i have to do in virtual dub?

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Old 2006-09-18, 11:43   Link #12
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Virtual Dub size and frame matter

i just encoded my avi file and subs together but the file is like 3-4gig after its done why? can you adjust the size when im encoding it?
also after my file is done the frame rate of the avi runs slow.... can it be fixed? plz reply in advance, thanx!
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Old 2006-09-18, 15:44   Link #13
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Decompressed encode? (Video->Compression)
2. Typically on 2-pass XVID on 2nd pass configure the calc accordingly
3. Avisynth( Fdecimate(23.976) ) though others like different decimators
4. I suggest using avisynth for all filtering if you don't already. via TextSub , Decimation, Smoothers, sharpen,( deen , edeen, convolution3d, FluxSmooth ) or something you like.

And yes it can be fixed. Read #1 and #2 and #3 - and should be helpful enough to guide you to where you want to be.
(Video->Compression->Scroll to XVID-> Configure->??? Do your stuff.
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Old 2006-09-19, 08:36   Link #14
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how to make the subs on top screen?

does anyonwe know how to make your words go on the top screen with substation apha and with virtual dub?? i did it with subtittle workshop and when opened it on virtual dub it was in the middle screen, played around still didnt work, any ideas?
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Old 2006-09-19, 09:43   Link #15
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...you mean {\an8}...?

I'm confused on what you mean/are trying to do...
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Old 2006-09-19, 10:16   Link #16
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In Advanced Sub Station files, it's alignment 8.

In Sub Station Alpha files, I believe it's alignment 6.
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Old 2006-09-19, 12:30   Link #17
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VSFilter doesn't care either way, you can use both the SSA-style {\a6} as well as the ASS-style {\an8} in both ASS and SSA scripts. Take care with what type of styles you have, though.
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17:43:13 <~deculture> Also, TheFluff, you are so fucking slowpoke.jpg that people think we dropped the DVD's.
17:43:16 <~deculture> nice job, fag!

01:04:41 < Plorkyeran> it was annoying to typeset so it should be annoying to read
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Old 2006-09-19, 13:20   Link #18
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oh I have a question

like there's a part when 2 people are talking at the same time and people do

-whatever this person said
-wahtever other person said

how do you do that...
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Old 2006-09-19, 14:24   Link #19
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I love how Fluff is so quick to pounce on the newbies...
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Old 2006-09-19, 15:52   Link #20
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Hmm let me think = time what person 1 says first
Then like you know - time what person 2 says 2nd
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If it's too hard to make out...ask The Tl - I'd suggest.
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