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Old 2011-10-26, 14:48   Link #1961
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MM's author is long dead though. What a shame! I've noticed that many authors of popular LNs don't have good health. MM, Reord of Lodoss Wars, Haruhi, Zero no Tsukaima, IS.
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Old 2011-10-26, 18:59   Link #1962
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Well, a novelist lifestyle is not exactly that healthy since they might have to pull some all-nighter near deadline. Add the fact that the room they use in Japan is usually much smaller than US due to extremely high land price, authors usually cooped up in their room thinking of material for their work, and unhealthy diet then you'll get the ultimate recipe for bad health.
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Old 2011-10-26, 19:00   Link #1963
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The problem here in HnA. No matter how hax Hysteria mode is. Bullet can't pass through wall of fire or ice or even hit shadows
There was the special bullets professional Butei use, each comes with a special ability. For example, one of them engulfed Sherlock in a giant ball of flames when Kinji fought him (and he didn't know the bullet can do that - just that it'll do something), and Kinji got sent a entire set of those special bullets (with a variety of abilities) from Rome after Kaname kicked the rest of Team Baskerville's backsides.

Or the rest of the team pulled some strings and gave him those bullets without him having a say; my memory's a bit hazy on that part.


On the topic of things going downhill in HnA... I thought it was still alright, until they introduced a new little sister that curbstomped most of the other main heroines.
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Old 2011-10-26, 19:47   Link #1964
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On the topic of things going downhill in HnA... I thought it was still alright, until they introduced a new little sister that curbstomped most of the other main heroines.
Exactly stuff like this...it's overly jarring. Suddenly, she's invaded the home and.....yeah INVADED THE HOME. I know she's yandere max and all but still to have such a powerful foe do this instead of fight normally....It's becoming too plain...weird.
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Old 2011-10-26, 20:13   Link #1965
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My qualms with both series? Everything gets stronger around the protagonist while the protagonist himself reduced from someone with potential to be great into a dunce who can't do anything but watch the girls fight. I happen to like a hero who's a badass. Denseness doesn't bother me, but being a weakling does. Someone like Sagara from FMP or Touma from Index is the kind of harem protagonist I like(well, FMP's technically not a harem since only 2 girls like him, but it fulfill all the requirement with protagonist who's dense as a log and 2 girls who can't straightforwardly said they like the protagonist, at least until the plot moves forward).

IS used to be good since Ichika has a great potential to be bad-ass with a "black-horse" type of IS, but he's been reduced into spectator in later volume, just like Kinji in HnA(the HSS used to be so bad-ass ><).

If it's about protagonists, I have a problem with too powerful as well as too weak. Too powerful and you wonder what's the point of the side characters, too weak and you're watching a pokemon trainer.

Actually there are stories that with the right kind of set up, can allow for a weak hero to defeat a strong enemy, which is more impressive than say a strong enemy being defeated by a stronger force.

I can't say for Ichika because I never read Infinite Stratos, but my beef with Kinji is his monologues... Even from the beginning it was the one thing that bugged me.

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Exactly stuff like this...it's overly jarring. Suddenly, she's invaded the home and.....yeah INVADED THE HOME. I know she's yandere max and all but still to have such a powerful foe do this instead of fight normally....It's becoming too plain...weird.
It's all about execution, and from what I've heard- it wasn't very well done at all.
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Old 2011-10-27, 10:32   Link #1966
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If it's about protagonists, I have a problem with too powerful as well as too weak. Too powerful and you wonder what's the point of the side characters, too weak and you're watching a pokemon trainer.

Actually there are stories that with the right kind of set up, can allow for a weak hero to defeat a strong enemy, which is more impressive than say a strong enemy being defeated by a stronger force.

I can't say for Ichika because I never read Infinite Stratos, but my beef with Kinji is his monologues... Even from the beginning it was the one thing that bugged me.



It's all about execution, and from what I've heard- it wasn't very well done at all.
so saying that the quality of the meat is well and good... its only how you cook it... right?

as for the guy.... well.... he needs to work being a cynical and reluctant hero because... he cant even have the balls to just man up and stop the girls. he was ballsy enough to do just that when the second Aria vs. Riko on the rooftop when HS mode kicked in.
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Old 2011-10-27, 18:21   Link #1967
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as for the guy.... well.... he needs to work being a cynical and reluctant hero because... he cant even have the balls to just man up and stop the girls. he was ballsy enough to do just that when the second Aria vs. Riko on the rooftop when HS mode kicked in.
Well, any one of the four girls in team Baskerville (Aria, Riko, Shirayuki and Reki) can pretty much curbstomp him if he's not inside HSS mode - I don't hold it against him for having enough brains to know not getting into a (painful) fight he can't win. Unless it's one of those situations where his comrades is hurt, then he steps up regardless of odds.
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Old 2011-10-27, 23:27   Link #1968
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Well, any one of the four girls in team Baskerville (Aria, Riko, Shirayuki and Reki) can pretty much curbstomp him if he's not inside HSS mode - I don't hold it against him for having enough brains to know not getting into a (painful) fight he can't win. Unless it's one of those situations where his comrades is hurt, then he steps up regardless of odds.
I believe that the cause of him being a total wussy when facing girls is due to the use 'n abuse trauma the past girls did to him. also, he only faced FEW males, that counting Holmes, a brief encounter with his brother, Vlad, and the newest GIII guy.

meanwhile, he already has faced:
Riko for a short time
Patra
the Cao-Cao sisters
Jeanne
a short moment with Kaname

also, MOST of his personal strike team members I mean teammates/friends are females... that counting
Aria
Shirayuki
Riko
Jeanne
Elle
Fuuma
Aya
Jeanne
Reki
Misaki
Kaname
Meiya (ally, needs pic)
Tamamo (ally, needs full pic)

his friend Muto cant cure his zomgwfimtooinepttofightagirl, and Shiranui just likes to stay in the sidelines.

yeah... pretty much.
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Old 2011-10-28, 01:01   Link #1969
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Who's Muto?

Kinji's friendship with Muto is like Naruto's friendship with Shikamaru.
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Old 2011-10-28, 05:10   Link #1970
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^ You know, that's actually a pretty damn good comparison.
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Old 2011-11-23, 02:51   Link #1971
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Who's Muto?

Kinji's friendship with Muto is like Naruto's friendship with Shikamaru.
i think that's one should be compare with shiranui ~
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Old 2011-11-23, 05:07   Link #1972
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^ Perhaps, but then I wouldn't know where to put Muto.
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Old 2011-11-24, 11:12   Link #1973
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missed something, what is this AA?
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Old 2011-11-24, 11:57   Link #1974
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missed something, what is this AA?
A side story starring a girl who is Aria's apprentice to say the least.
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Old 2011-11-25, 02:39   Link #1975
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Is it a manga?
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Old 2011-11-25, 03:30   Link #1976
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Is it a manga?
Yeah. I didn't see a manga section for this series, but I'll remove it just in case.
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Old 2011-11-25, 03:36   Link #1977
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Ah, I see, thanks.
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Old 2011-11-28, 17:59   Link #1978
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BTW, anyone's impressions of the upcoming novel (not announced yet though)?
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Old 2011-11-29, 23:14   Link #1979
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New hna should be out already IIRC. It's either nov 25th or around Des 20th. Won't buy it though so I can't give impression... Yet.

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Old 2011-12-02, 06:30   Link #1980
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Vol 11 comes out on Dec 22. Riko is most likely gonna be on the cover since she's next after Aria and Shirayuki.

Apparently the light novel series sold quite well this year. It ranked 10th for most sold copies per light novel series (http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=370533).
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