Hanasaku Iroha - Episode 4 Discussion / Poll

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[dark998]

About time the romantic drama made its entry in the series. Though there isn't really competition between Yuina and Minko, the former is clearly superior.

[ReddyRedWolf]

Know what Yuina knowing much about Ohana means one thing... Touru talks about her.

Now what if the reason Yuina talked to her was to scope her out? Potential love rival and all that.

[spawnofthejudge]

Nah; the fact that they're in a somewhat similar situation, though Ohana's quite new to it and Yuina's not, is the likely reason Yuina sought her out. As to how she knew that, blame Tohru, naturally.

Maybe she was/is also afraid of her being a love rival, but if so, her attention is on the wrong girl. What with Ohana's outspoken opinion of Tohru, I doubt that misunderstanding would last long.

[ReddyRedWolf]

Ohana would wonder what the hell do they see in that guy.

[Blaat]

Originally Posted by spawnofthejudge

Maybe she was/is also afraid of her being a love rival, but if so, her attention is on the wrong girl.

She has the right girl, except it's a bit too early. The writers seem to be insisting on the Ohana/Tohru pairing.

[ReddyRedWolf]

So a brief relationship charting.

Minko/Yuina likes --------->Touru likes?---------->Ohana

Ohana hates--------> Tohru

Ohana likes?--------->Kouta

[spawnofthejudge]

Originally Posted by Blaat

She has the right girl, except it's a bit too early. The writers seem to be insisting on the Ohana/Tohru pairing.

...I don't see it. Could happen, but we haven't seen any good evidence.

Remember: just because a character dislikes someone doesn't mean they'll like-like them later.

[ttdestroy]

Ohana x Tohru is definitely a real thing.

[Haak]

I still don't see it. I just don't see any chemistry with them whatsoever on either side.

[Triple_R]

Originally Posted by Haak

I still don't see it. I just don't see any chemistry with them whatsoever on either side.

Tohru likes teasing Ohana, so I think that he has some fondness for her. There's some romantic potential coming from his side of the equation at least.

But I don't get a sense that Ohana likes Tohru that way. But then, this could be due to how she's still focused on Kouta. If that changes, who knows?

[revive4563]

At least, there is no Ko-chan route already.
Ohana is hating Tohru in the first place, then this is the flag that she come to like him gradually.

btw according to preview, seems he was hired away from rival inn though.

[ReddyRedWolf]

Originally Posted by revive4563

At least, there is no Ko-chan route already.
Ohana is hating Tohru in the first place, then this is the flag that she come to like him gradually.

btw according to preview, seems he was hired away from rival inn though.

Words of wisdom from Keima?

So are we comparing Tohru as MC of a dating sim?

[Guardian Enzo]

Originally Posted by Haak

I still don't see it. I just don't see any chemistry with them whatsoever on either side.

Me 2. Don't see it happening.

Ohana-Kou is a central dynamic to the entire storyline. Even if they don't end up together, it has to be resolved before she's serious with anyone else - and I don't see it resolved before the end of the series or close to it.

Besides - I think Minchi will end up with Tohru.

[frodonk]

It still amazes me how amazing and consistent the animation on this thing is, i suppose having a big budget helps, but still..

as for the pairing, I still can't see the ending on how minko will resolve this situation, maybe she'll call everyone balut from this point on

[VentAileron]

Originally Posted by frodonk

as for the pairing, I still can't see the ending on how minko will resolve this situation, maybe she'll call everyone balut from this point on

And nobody will complain; all she has to do is yell 'Die!' and 'Balut!' everytime Ohana talks to her and everyone will love her.

[DragoZERO]

Is the end "reverse NTR?"

[germanturkey]

i cannot piece together in my head what reverse ntr is.

[DragoZERO]

Originally Posted by germanturkey

i cannot piece together in my head what reverse ntr is.

Like a reverse harem. The genders are reversed.

[Deconstructor]

Freud was pretty much the holy grail for unlikely relationships. You can interpret some of his ideas as "when you hurt someone, either physically or mentally, you actually really care for them." From what I see, Tohru is unintentionally spewing out minor insults to Ohana, like she's underdeveloped or small. Unfortunately Freud works both ways here; if he's intentionally putting Ohana down, then he's making a conscious effort to avoid her. If he's unintentionally mean, then he's subconsciously expressing some of his repressed feelings toward Ohana, which may or may not involve love.

Problem is, Tohru's mean to Minko as well; Tohru's might just be a mean person. And to further hurt the case of Tohana shippers (improvised combining naming scheme) I see he's harsher on Minko than he is on Ohana. So yeah... more abuse, more love?