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Old 2012-04-11, 07:05   Link #23241
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BTW, I wanna ask in this chapter was his billingual improved??
I think so. But i'm not sure.
Anyway ,because will still have 9 day before vol 9 I think would be a good idea just collect all the theory and then see who get close to the true. And because we are on topic(both topic) ...I will really lol if....
1 8 pawn piece really act like as a bridge
2 Some how Ise use this way billingual on Rias oppai O_o
3Thanks all this he and her oppai come back.

And before you ask...no I don't think this will ever happen ...but with this author and Ise it's better keep this in mind as well
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Old 2012-04-11, 08:00   Link #23242
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V11 c2 updated...Le Fay and her fan-girling is so full of win
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Old 2012-04-11, 08:01   Link #23243
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BTW, I wanna ask in this chapter was his billingual improved by the original monkey king??
It's more like a temporary upgrade than a permanent power up.

Basically, instead of the usual dialogue between Ise and someone's breasts, it becomes a kind of conference call where all the people involved can hear one another. That's how Kunou's voice reaches Yasaka.
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Old 2012-04-11, 08:02   Link #23244
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Final tally on those theories:

Theory 1: Rossweiss revives Issei for Ragnarok.

Theory 2: Opfis will sacrifice herself to get Issei to come back from the dead.

Theory 3: Issei won't be revived at all in the final arc (Bathara I think did this theory).

Theory 4: Opfis will hijack the protagonist role (my theory just for sheer lulz).

I think that was about the entire thing if I remember correctly, generally speaking.
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Old 2012-04-11, 08:17   Link #23245
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Just to play devil's advocate, I proposed the opposite theory that Ise's essence is in those pawn pieces. In other words, instead of Ise losing the pieces, Ise lost his body.

This would allow a possible scenario of Ise wandering around in spirit form "I see dead people"-style until he regains a new body. Then we don't miss out on Ise's narration but still get all the reactions and the action focuses on the other members. There would also be plenty of perversion potential.

Finally, many of the resurrection theories can be applied to how a new body is obtained.
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Old 2012-04-11, 08:20   Link #23246
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Final tally on those theories:

Theory 1: Rossweiss revives Issei for Ragnarok.

Theory 2: Opfis will sacrifice herself to get Issei to come back from the dead.

Theory 3: Issei won't be revived at all in the final arc (Bathara I think did this theory).

Theory 4: Opfis will hijack the protagonist role (my theory just for sheer lulz).

I think that was about the entire thing if I remember correctly, generally speaking.
Then we have.....let's see if i remember them well.( I say all the one that i remember people say here)

theory 5: Rias sacrifices her King role/piece(? ...that we don't even know if this piece exist) to bring back Ise.
theory 6: Ise is inside the pawn piece
theory 7:Hades take him/revive him a his pawn()
theory 8: Ise get revive a angel ()
theory 9: Ise sub specie is one time only and always active and make Ise pure dragon (Reaper theory ).
theory 10: Ddraig merge with Ise.
theory 11: Ddraig sacrifice for Ise
theory 12: Oppai god and fairy god
theory 13: Ise become something like ophis and gr a dragon born in special way?
theory 14:Ophis become Ise new sg or merge with him ( i think some one do say this one as well).
Theory 15: GR save Ise for some reason.
theory 16: BG senpai again
theory 17: A new character/entities
Theory 18:One pawn pice for girls to bring him back.
theory 19: Some one defeat hades to take Ise soul back or Ise had do defeat hades to come back.
theory 20: Maou and god revive him before he reaches the afterlife like he's at the border and they combine their powers to bring him back.(Dragonking).
theory 21draig transferred his powers to Ise and Ophis used a rebirth type power turning Ddraig into an egg (dragonroots)
theory 22:Ise himself return as a egg and the girls have to take care of it(endarion88)
theory 23: the evil pieces return through the drangons gates was because samaels poison was expulse to the evil pieces in order to make Ise live.(latos1117)
theory 24: Ise become a egg and do the same a Agumon() reborn and grow the same vol with less memory and come back (the memory) thanks Rias oppai ...(or something like this).
theory 25: The true queen(CcQ) is a true queen piece and become his new piece(i think that was another one).
I think this where all the theory ...more or less.

Edit:zzhk @ The problem they don't have time for this plus without Ise help i can't see them survive on this. No to mention that he had to come back in this vol and the title of this vol don't match so much on this kind of scenario that you say.(I don't say it's impossible ...just I see this unlikely ...at least this not get solve in this vol ).
Plus I still wonder why he would lose his body O.o I mean ....don't make much sense that he lost his body because samael curse.

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Old 2012-04-11, 08:41   Link #23247
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Considering the number of ultimate class devils, the fate of the Underworld itself cannot hinge on Ise's survival.

Within the Rating Game, the Top 10 are all ultimate class, of which the Top 3 are Maou equivalent in power. Outside of ultimate class, you have top tier people like Grayfia and Venerana Gremory who doesn't participate in Rating Games. And then there's the Four Maou and their legendary beast servants (Kirin, Bahamut, Behemoth, Kujata, etc).

Furthermore, the Underworld is shared between the devils and the fallen angels. On the fallen angel side, you have Azazel and his best buddies Shemhaza and Barakiel. Not to mention all the Sacred Gear users Azazel has gathered over the years. Top tier Longinus user Slash Dog with his Zenith Tempest.

A single individual is not going to change the tide of war.

Of course, in an individual battle, you can have Ise appearing to save the day for the Gremory team but obviously such a scene will not happen anywhere near the beginning of the volume.
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Old 2012-04-11, 08:47   Link #23248
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The problem they don't have time for this plus without Ise help i can't see them survive on this
That's was more for Rias and the other girls and gremory group that the underworld itself.

Plus still you don't answer why you think that samael curse make Ise lost his body. THis is not the first time you say this (if i remember right) and I'm curios what make you think this.We have no evidence that the curse can do this.A this point would make more sense that the 8 pawn piece seal Ise himself inside them(body as well). I mean we do know from legend that devil can be seal a whole.
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Old 2012-04-11, 08:55   Link #23249
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@ soji who made theory 8 its pretty obvious ise will turn to a fallen angel in a millisecond after angelization infact i believe the guy will grow 16 fallen angel wing when and IF that happens lol

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Old 2012-04-11, 08:58   Link #23250
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Soji u forgot my theory where the old Maou and god revive him before he reaches the afterlife like he's at the border and they combine their powers to bring him back cuz he's interesting
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Old 2012-04-11, 09:04   Link #23251
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Cao Cao asks how does it feel like to taste the posion god created aimed towards dragons.
Is it really that hard to imagine a poison eating away at the body?
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Old 2012-04-11, 09:05   Link #23252
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Dragonking@ Sorry I only wrote the one that I remembered. However,I have added theory as well.
I think I save that post that's way we can see who get close to the true in vol 12.(afterall i think we wrote all the theory). In case there is more just say and I add the new theory.

zzhk@ But we don't see clue about this happen. And no Ddraig or Ophis say this. Come on,if that's was the case i think Ddraig or Ophis will say this or we start to see this happen to him in vol 11.(i don't say this is impossible just that would be stupid without build up). And poison kill no eat away.
Spoiler for vol 11 pic:

The only thing we see was him lost some blood...nothing more nothing less. And like I say ,Ophis and Ddraig would said something like this.
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Old 2012-04-11, 09:09   Link #23253
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Is it really that hard to imagine a poison eating away at the body?
Im guessing the pain will be similar as getting bitten by a rattle snake i'm sure that the discription is similar

ahhahaha Im making this too direct aint I
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Old 2012-04-11, 09:15   Link #23254
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^No .If something like that happen Ise would say that or even Ddraig. I think being eating away by the poison and feel you're own body be consummate in the real sense of the word would be like....being split apart cell by cell.And i think we would see /read something like this if that's was the thing happeing in the end of vol 11.
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Old 2012-04-11, 10:03   Link #23255
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Final tally on those theories:

Theory 1: Rossweiss revives Issei for Ragnarok.

Theory 2: Opfis will sacrifice herself to get Issei to come back from the dead.

Theory 3: Issei won't be revived at all in the final arc (Bathara I think did this theory).

Theory 4: Opfis will hijack the protagonist role (my theory just for sheer lulz).

I think that was about the entire thing if I remember correctly, generally speaking.
No matter how many theories you throw, I still have the bad feeling this one is the most accurate one (number 3)...
I hate my gut feelings, they usually turn out true.
I doubt the author will kill of one of the best MC that was ever created (and the best MC for this series), but I think he could really pull of an arc (1-2 volumes) where the objective would be to bring back Ise (through some hints thrown at Rias near the end of vol. 12).
Of course logic can't be applied to this series, but still....
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Old 2012-04-11, 10:11   Link #23256
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Darth SpiderDen@ Again._.1 The title say otherwise.
2 the set up say otherwise
3 the next one is SS
..Anyway...short story there is no way that the author don't bring ise back now(in this vol).....we talking about one year otherwise. And the LN would die for sure. if you guy's want this...by my guest and hope the author do this.
But like I say more than one time ...that route would be the more stupid route ever for the author to take.This ln don't fit this....plus when the manga come to that point will be like 1 year or 2 without Ise.
All the foreshaodwing and set up would be trow out of the window. IF happen....ok I will be the first to say you guys where right and I'm wrong. But in all honestly I would find this a troll and just pointless in more way than one.
And yeah they do a Rias cover like that for nothing.(ops right....her cover are just fake they have nothing to do with the story itself in the vol ...coff vol 2 coff coff vol 10 coff .)
No to mention the word in afterword vol 10 was only for show

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Old 2012-04-11, 10:46   Link #23257
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zzhk @ thanks for the summaries.

Wow Original Sun Goku good.I want to see what happen in Vol.12
Sun Goku finaly find Bikou and Vali XD
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Old 2012-04-11, 10:48   Link #23258
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[Ugg…….Even this guy ends up saying that……… Uuu! Haahaa…….! My conscious got cut! Councillor! Someone call the councillor!]

I can't stop laughing when Ddraig said this hahaha.....



Yeah Sun Goku find vali maybe he is the one who heal vali.....??
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Old 2012-04-11, 10:55   Link #23259
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my predictions for the novel dxd 12 of high school.
that will reborn how half crimson dragon half devil
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Old 2012-04-11, 11:20   Link #23260
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I have been following what has been said on DxD for at least a good 50 pages, and would like to throw in what I think.

1st I believe Issei will not die.
2nd Someone will break Issei out of the void (don't care if it is the void or another dimension, as basically each is as bad as each other.) or while Issei is unconscious he will picture Rias and want to sleep with her, rub her breasts or some other ecchi action so much he somehow rips open a dimensional hole. Though someone is more likely
3rd That someone will be someone who has great respect for Issei
4th That the dragon gate failed and wasn't attuned to Issei
5th Issei still has his 8 pawns inside him as they reached something like the maximum evolution and thus created new pieces which then was taken by the failed dragon gate.

or

something will happen which we shrug off as it is too simple or something we never suspected and if we did we are liars.

Also would like to thank everyone who have helped with translation from a full load to a brief summary as well as the images. So thank you so much. Wish I knew japanese.
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