High School DxD Light Novel - Archived Discussion

[amtro]

@Mcloving
No, mutated pieces ignore the ranking system entirely.

[ReaperxKingx]

Amtro, the things you just said are very scary, more than my girlfriend's parents. Ise is Pure Dragon, with blood of two Divine Dragons. That alone tells you two things coming in the Novel, stronger beings (Low Rank God or Mid Rank God class like Loki) as enemies and Ise becoming more and more powerful. DXD is Dragon of Dragons, Ise as in right now isn't close to taking Great Red's title. That is one of the reason we are reading, to see how Ise will obtain it.

[Darth SpiderDen]

Originally Posted by amtro

@Mcloving
No, mutated pieces ignore the ranking system entirely.

Basically, four wild cards that can amount to basically anything the author wishes.
That will be fun to watch.

[aigomorla]

Originally Posted by amtro

@Mcloving
No, mutated pieces ignore the ranking system entirely.

no it doesnt...

nom said u can never pick a God, or a being equal to a God. :P

which is why Opfus will never be part of ise's harem.

Originally Posted by Darth SpiderDen

Basically, four wild cards that can amount to basically anything the author wishes.
That will be fun to watch.

i believe nom also said all the pieces went back to ISE and can not be used on anyone else.

[Clue]

Originally Posted by Mcloving

I know it hasn't been stated how much a mutated piece is worth, but if 1 mutated pawn piece worth 8 pieces in value then Ise has a value of 36 piece. May be a mutated piece is worth the max number of pieces in that given set?

A Mutated piece has an indefinable value.

ise has got 4, plus his another 4 normal ones.

if ise promotes to queen his value is 72

a king piece in terms of offensive and defensive power is worth 4 pieces in chess
but the overall value is infinite.

[Mcloving]

Ye, i think it just subs as a higher level piece for occasions when you lack pieces, so maybe it's value is at the maximum of the given piece, So 2 for bishop, 2 for knight, 2 rook and 8 for pawn maybe?

@clue - howcome it's 72?

[amtro]

@Soji
Just imagine Issei spreading his gigantic dragon wings and zipping through the skies, doing somersaults, spinning, diving and crashing against his (also airborne) enemy.
Think of Ichigo vs. Grimmjow's final battle and how Ichigo was flying at jet speed and doing impossible turns, flips and dodging ridiculous attacks like it was second nature to him.

[Clue]

Originally Posted by aigomorla

no it doesnt...

nom said u can never pick a God, or a being equal to a God. :P

which is why Opfus will never be part of ise's harem.




i believe nom also said all the pieces went back to ISE and can not be used on anyone else.

this is right.
Unless Beel does something that allows gods to join in, Ophis will never be able to join ise's team.


a single queen is worth 9 points he can have 8 queens if he promotes.

[Nightmare637]

Originally Posted by aigomorla

no it doesnt...

nom said u can never pick a God, or a being equal to a God. :P

which is why Opfus will never be part of ise's harem.

I think you mean team not harem because she can join his harem just not become a piece(i'ts not like the girl has to be a piece to be part of the harem)

and anyway we haven't got any confirmation of her not being able to become a familiar(since issei doesen't have one, and i don't see Tiamat appearing since the only mention of her has been in 2 or 3 lines in the entire LN including SS)

and anyway Familiars have been described as gods in some cultures so i can kinda see ophis as a familiar but still we need confirmation

[ReaperxKingx]

Okay, when reading Nom@n posts, he said Ise's 4 pawn pieces turns into a mutation piece. Doesn't a means one, I been hearing single and multiple. As in right now I am very confused, Nom@n is it one piece or multiple? This is so out of character for me of not knowing the details of this Novel.

[aigomorla]

Originally Posted by amtro

@Soji
Just imagine Issei spreading his gigantic dragon wings and zipping through the skies, doing somersaults, spinning, diving and crashing against his (also airborne) enemy.

u mean how GR flys in his own dimension?


Oh and guys incase ur wondering who that tiny little blue dragon is..
Its Tanamin in chibi form.

ITS NOT FORESHADDOWING OF TIAMAT.

[Mcloving]

Originally Posted by ReaperxKingx

Okay, when reading Nom@n posts, he said Ise's 4 pawn pieces turns into a mutation piece. Doesn't a means one, I been hearing single and multiple. As in right now I am very confused, Nom@n is it one piece or multiple? This is so out of character for me of not knowing the details of this Novel.

4 of his 8 pieces became mutated

[aigomorla]

Originally Posted by Mcloving

4 of his 8 pieces became mutated

actually theres a lot of confusion.
IT also says in another spoiler, 4 of the pieces went mutated and turned into 1.

Meaning Rias only has 5 pawns and 1 is mutated.

This is why we were all scratching our head and waiting for nom's spoilers.

However its ALL MOOT..
Nom did say ALL THE PAWNS WENT BACK TO ISE,
and also said the PAWNS CAN ONLY BE USED ON ISE.

[ReaperxKingx]

There are a mix of confusion right now, but all in all I don't think it really matters. Nom@n said Ise was made into her servant again so all pieces are back where they should be.

[amtro]

Originally Posted by aigomorla

u mean how GR flys in his own dimension?


Oh and guys incase ur wondering who that tiny little blue dragon is..
Its Tanamin in chibi form.

ITS NOT FORESHADDOWING OF TIAMAT.

Yes, only faster.
A lot faster.
OMG HE'S GOING SO FAST I CAN'T EVEN FOLLOW HIM WITH MY EYES-fast
Take of from the ground has such force that it destroys the pavement-fast
Faster than a speeding bullet-fast

[Darth SpiderDen]

Originally Posted by amtro

@Soji
Just imagine Issei spreading his gigantic dragon wings and zipping through the skies, doing somersaults, spinning, diving and crashing against his (also airborne) enemy.
Think of Ichigo vs. Grimmjow's final battle and how Ichigo was flying at jet speed and doing impossible turns, flips and dodging ridiculous attacks like it was second nature to him.

Sorry for the off topic but I have to say this: in a story that stated that none of the shinigami (at least) could actually fly (more standing on spirit particles in the atmosphere).
So imagine that with characters that are actually supposed to fly.

Amtro@ that's a lot of fast...

[aigomorla]

Originally Posted by amtro

Yes, only faster.
A lot faster.
OMG HE'S GOING SO FAST I CAN'T EVEN FOLLOW HIM WITH MY EYES-fast
Take of from the ground has such force that it destroys the pavement-fast
Faster than a speeding bullet-fast

u know ise did say he cant handle that speed yet.
And he does get vertigo.

HE even comments on how "kiba's and Vali's" world makes him want to barf.

[Darth SpiderDen]

Originally Posted by aigomorla

u know ise did say he cant handle that speed yet.
And he does get vertigo.

HE even comments on how "kiba's and Vali's" world makes him want to barf.

When did he say that?

[aigomorla]

Originally Posted by Darth SpiderDen

When did he say that?

Vol.9 when he pushed the limits of traina knight into God Speed territory.

[ReaperxKingx]

Ise is no means a perfect fighter, most likely that is the reason why the author made Ise's original body die and give him a new one. It seems to much of a coincidence where Seigfreed said that reborn Devils have limit capacity to increase their power and then Ise suddenly gets a new body made from Divine Dragons in the same volume.