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Old 2012-04-29, 07:44   Link #29681
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Pretty much. I think this one it's a good example.

mike211@ She lost even more power. She seem to be just alittle stronger that a normal dragon in the end of vol 12. Or at least this is what n0m@n say after read the vol.Also Azazel say that ophis can't become a evil piece because even without all that power she still a god and god can become evil piece.


darthfanta@ Let's put this way...normal magic = normal bullet while power of destruction = Laser beam. Then again depends on how skilled the user is. Maybe Rias brother true form in this vol will make this more clear to you.
Thank Soji for answering the question, so she would be still be more powerful then those high level devils right? now back to reading the old posts.
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Old 2012-04-29, 07:50   Link #29682
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mike211@ she is weaker than a dragon king. (from what we know). So i'm not totally sure about the high level devils. But i think she would be weaker that them.(not 100% sure).
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Old 2012-04-29, 08:08   Link #29683
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But then again its wat Azazel said not Ajuka lol....and Taninim was a Dragon-king turned devil and Azazel also said CCQ wasnt possible...Well
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Old 2012-04-29, 08:11   Link #29684
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Nom tnx for the summary again ..

hmm the first thing i notice there's so many saji haters ..

As for siegfreed its such a shame that he die that way i think he deserve more than that, well i guess it cant be help , that's always the faith of a villain ...
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Old 2012-04-29, 08:12   Link #29685
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It seems like the power of destruction has two components -- antimagic and antimatter.

From Sirzechs' fight it looks like he emphasizes the antimagic aspect, using it to erase the opponent's magic without trace. On the other hand, Rias seems to be using antimatter to blow stuff up most of the time.

For it to be useful, the demonic power consumption for using destruction magic to counter spells must be lower than casting a shield. Likewise, the destructive potential must be greater than other forms of magic in order to be such a highly regarded ability.
You have a good sense to classify this power on two components...
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Old 2012-04-29, 08:33   Link #29686
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@darthfanta
It's a referrence to Baal The Lord of Destruction in Diablo 2 Expansion Pack.
The power of destruction originally came from the House of Baal in HS DxD.
In ancient lore Baal was a pagan God- or rather a common denominator for regional pagan Gods who offered protection, often symbolized by a statue of a golden bull for strenght and fertility, he had no such powers.
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Old 2012-04-29, 08:40   Link #29687
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@darthfanta
It's a referrence to Baal The Lord of Destruction in Diablo 2 Expansion Pack.
The power of destruction originally came from the House of Baal in HS DxD.
In ancient lore Baal was a pagan God- or rather a common denominator for regional pagan Gods who offered protection, often symbolized by a statue of a golden bull for strenght and fertility, he had no such powers.
I'm not asking for that, but thanks for letting me know about the references.
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Old 2012-04-29, 08:52   Link #29688
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@darthfanta
It's a referrence to Baal The Lord of Destruction in Diablo 2 Expansion Pack.
The power of destruction originally came from the House of Baal in HS DxD.
In ancient lore Baal was a pagan God- or rather a common denominator for regional pagan Gods who offered protection, often symbolized by a statue of a golden bull for strenght and fertility, he had no such powers.
Wow! I just realized that! I'm quite surprised I never saw anyone mentioned about this before, or maybe it had been mentioned already but the sheer size of this thread made me give up trying to read it all.

I never expected Blizzard reference to appear here though. I thought only the Koreans would care in the Far East.
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Old 2012-04-29, 09:16   Link #29689
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....what happened to volume 11 ??
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Old 2012-04-29, 09:31   Link #29690
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Siegfried should have lived on dammit.

Anyways, shooting himself in the head (well neck, but it's below the head so it's still near)?

I was expecting him to shout "PERSONA!"
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Old 2012-04-29, 09:52   Link #29691
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Siegfried should have lived on dammit.

Anyways, shooting himself in the head (well neck, but it's below the head so it's still near)?

I was expecting him to shout "PERSONA!"
Uhm.....why exactly you want Siegfried to live?
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Old 2012-04-29, 10:03   Link #29692
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People dislike Saji because he was after his King's(Female) love and to fulfil her dream if I remember correctly.

Then when he gets his powers raised he just like forgets about whats her name his king and goes after other girls. Then she the king shows interest in Ise and reaffirms us the readers that she has always seen him as just a brother. Am i remembering this correctly?

Could this be seen as a 2 face effect conveyed by the author and being the opposite of Ise?
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Old 2012-04-29, 10:07   Link #29693
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When did Saji ever go after other girls?
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Old 2012-04-29, 10:10   Link #29694
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Well Zack many of us hate him due to first impressions. Read Ise and Saji's first encounter vol 3 and you'll get the picture. Also in the same volume he said he wants to marry Sona by making her pregnant. All things aside, I lighten on my hate on him since he has changed in later volumes.
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Old 2012-04-29, 10:11   Link #29695
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Then when he gets his powers raised he just like forgets about whats her name his king and goes after other girls. Then she the king shows interest in Ise and reaffirms us the readers that she has always seen him as just a brother. Am i remembering this correctly?
When did he go after other girls??? nom@n said something about Hercules stepping onto Sona's back and taunting her....It is time for Saji to make her fall lol. I am alright with all of the characters...I mean everyone has their flaws...cant expect everyone to be the same....would be boring
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Seems like there are still others that hate Saji for absurd reasons
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Old 2012-04-29, 10:12   Link #29697
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The other girls came to him, n he didn't refuse. Well, I don't think that's like he forgot his king..

For me, he is still a likeable character..
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Old 2012-04-29, 10:13   Link #29698
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It seems like the power of destruction has two components -- antimagic and antimatter.

From Sirzechs' fight it looks like he emphasizes the antimagic aspect, using it to erase the opponent's magic without trace. On the other hand, Rias seems to be using antimatter to blow stuff up most of the time.

For it to be useful, the demonic power consumption for using destruction magic to counter spells must be lower than casting a shield. Likewise, the destructive potential must be greater than other forms of magic in order to be such a highly regarded ability.
Good analysis of the power.

Going by how Rias uses the power though it seems like she doesn't have a good imagination (she just uses it like a machine gun apparently) when that power could be used so much differently. Sirzechs has a good imagination to come up with making them orbs that he can move freely to attack or block. I think Rias should train without using her PoD (it's implied she can also use all the elements) and instead use other magics that require more imagination to be able to win (for example she could use water magic to practice how to make her magic flow more smoothly, earth magic to learn how to better make different types of walls for defense, fire magic to restrict movements and air magic to practice speed attacks) after doing this she could incorporate what she learned from using all the elements into her ability making her PoD much more powerful.
Maybe nickname it after completion "Element of Destruction".
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Old 2012-04-29, 10:20   Link #29699
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I think it would be the best combination of tag team ISE+ sairog vs saji = offset up to 101 and back
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Old 2012-04-29, 10:22   Link #29700
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i also like saji his character is very similar to issei's
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