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[aigomorla]

Originally Posted by ReaperxKingx

Aigomorla, Ise named them Illegal Moves, because he can do it without permission. No one else said he couldn't use them. Beelzebub seems to know about them already before Ise obtain them.

Where was this?

Again show me where beelz could possibly know about them when:

1.

Originally Posted by n0m@n

I guess we should explain the timing of the Short Stories...
Life.1: after Volume 1
Life.2: after Volume 2
Life.3: when? beginning of summer would be between 4 and 5?
Life.4: after Volume 4
Life.5: just before Volume 5
Life.6: it isn't clear since there's no Koneko-dere or Irina?
Extra Life: after Volume 7

Well the SS are put in sequence.

Life 3 happens after volume 3.
Life 4 ad 5 happens after volume 4.
Life 6 happens after volume 5.

Traina was obtained in vol.9

This is the first time the red dragon emperor had a devil host.
Infact this is the first time PERIOD the red dragon was the oppai dragon.
This is a completely new red vs white rivally.

AGAIN...
did you guys forget vol.9?

Ise begins to cry at the incomprehensible situation.

"Buchou, let me poke you in the breast."
"...I don't quite understand... but go ahead!"
Rias is both polite and decisive.
Ddraig begins to cry uncontrollably.

Poke.

The brightness from Rias' bosom reaches the heavens and the whole space is illuminated with a pink glow.
As Rias rises into the sky and disappears, the light and the magic circle vanish as well.

According to Elsha, Rias has returned.
Ise decides he will need to apologize when he gets back.

"What the heck was that..."
What happened has exceeded the comprehension of Cao Cao's group.
They wanted to summon Great Red but got Rias instead!

Power overflows from within Ise's body.

"I feel it, partner, this is my original power.
Unlike the power from Juggernaut, there is no curse or negative emotion.
This feels like the time when I still had my material body, and I finally feel like I have surpassed the White One!"

Traina was the first time Ddraig has ever felt his original power.
So how the hell did beelz know B4 it happened?
And u cant tell me he knew it was going to happen when Ddraig himself didnt know it was going to happen after ise poked Rias' nipples.

This is why Ddraig crys so much... the most Ecchi of things brings out his ultimate power....
It has to be mind boggling and at the same time embarrasing as faq for Ddraig.
Also why Albion too started to cry because his life long adversary powers up in the most embarrassing ways...

[ReaperxKingx]

Aigomorla, vol 8. Beelzebub said "..The power of chess pieces. The trait is being used on something else and is changing a bit. This is a interesting phenomenon. Looks like it’s overwritten by a code which isn’t written in my programme. From my personal view, it must be the influence of “Juggernaut Drive”…… But the overwritten code is messy. With this programme, it would malfunction easily…… Yes. I will alter the evil-piece within you.” Then he said “Of course I will make sure it won’t work during the Rating Game. But it’s better if you can use it in real battle right? No. It also might be interesting if you can use it in the Rating Game. It might receive good response from viewers who likes irregular causes. Well, since you are Sekiryutei you would continue to fight enemy forces. It would be good to be in a environment where you can use the ideas of your ability. More than that, it would be interesting for those viewing it. Also I need to give you my gratitude for stopping my family member.”

[dragonroots]

You misunderstood my words Reaper, i said "I like to think of ways elements can be used in combat" which i then gave a general example (just picked one from my head and that one came to the forefront) i know very well that Ise would never resort to tunneling under the terrain to reach the enemies base.

[aigomorla]

Originally Posted by ReaperxKingx

Aigomorla, vol 8. Beelzebub said "..The power of chess pieces. The trait is being used on something else and is changing a bit. This is a interesting phenomenon. Looks like it’s overwritten by a code which isn’t written in my programme. From my personal view, it must be the influence of “Juggernaut Drive”…… But the overwritten code is messy. With this programme, it would malfunction easily…… Yes. I will alter the evil-piece within you.” Then he said “Of course I will make sure it won’t work during the Rating Game. But it’s better if you can use it in real battle right? No. It also might be interesting if you can use it in the Rating Game. It might receive good response from viewers who likes irregular causes. Well, since you are Sekiryutei you would continue to fight enemy forces. It would be good to be in a environment where you can use the ideas of your ability. More than that, it would be interesting for those viewing it. Also I need to give you my gratitude for stopping my family member.”

He only unlocked it... the piece so he could have the ability to pull it.
HOWEVER.. he never assumed Ise could self promote himself without going into the enemy territory.
Beelz had no idea what Traina was because again.. it was completely NEW.
And your quotting Vol.8 ... my proofs are Vol.9 which is AFTER your quotes.. so u really have no room to counter proof with old statements.

Again... Traina is an illegal move, which beelz cant say its OK to use without the consent of the participants.
It was because Sairiog said i want a real battle that ise could use it.
If it was Sona's group, they would of screamed FOUL the moment Ise just stepped onto the game.

This is also why in the promotion test he doesnt use Traina and just uses BB.
Although ise didnt need Traina.

Triana Knight.... blitz.. touch... touch... touch.... Dress Break... GG sona's group...
Sona wouldnt allow Traina unless Ise got Promotion the legal way....

[zzhk]

Originally Posted by dragonroots

He could stand to use abit more magic in combat (not Akeno or Rias' level but maybe above Gasper but below Asia).

Actually, Gasper was stated to have magical potential just below Akeno which means he's even better than Asia if he trains enough. Gasper really hasn't tapped much into his vampire heritage and full potential.

Originally Posted by ReaperxKingx

Hmm I am starting to take my words back of Ise using magic. I mean it would ruin who he is, he isn't one to stand back and support others.

Considering one of the 3 times shown so far that Ise uses dragon fire breath is when going against Rossweisse to peek at the girls' bathroom, I'd say it's perfectly within character.

Originally Posted by aigomorla

what are u guys smoking?
Ise got Traina in Vol.9

That entire Arc with his sempai's helping him get Traina was VOL.9

Vol.9 clearly says traina was Illegal.


This is Vol.9
He didnt have Trania in vol.8 where did u guys pull beelz saying it was OK?

Beelz cant say its OK... its a promotion without him needing to be at the enemy base, hence its ILLEGAL.

Did you catch the ending of the finished Volume 8 Extra Life?
Beelzebub said "Of course I will make sure it won’t work during the Rating Game. But it’s better if you can use it in real battle right? No. It also might be interesting if you can use it in the Rating Game. It might receive good response from viewers who likes irregular causes."
Clearly the adjustment is what made Triaina possible, but Beelzebub actually doesn't make it clear whether he went ahead with the restriction or not. He's more like what the heck it might be fun.

Originally Posted by belatkuro

Issei has those dragon missiles. He used them in vol7 against CB grunts and against Loki. Where in his body does that come from anyways?

They're made from magic so they just materialize I suppose.

[ReaperxKingx]

Hahaha well I was being sarcastic in the first part of my comment Dragonroots (thought you would pick that up), all in all you do agree with me that Ise's basic stats probably the highiest than anyone we seen so far right?

[zzhk]

Overall, I think the whole notion of Pawns promoting in enemy territory is quite ill-defined outside of the Rating Game.

In a way, it seems like Ise can essentially promote whenever Rias allows it.
e.g. During Loki's first appearance.

[aigomorla]

Originally Posted by zzhk

Did you catch the ending of the finished Volume 8 Extra Life?
Beelzebub said "Of course I will make sure it won’t work during the Rating Game. But it’s better if you can use it in real battle right? No. It also might be interesting if you can use it in the Rating Game. It might receive good response from viewers who likes irregular causes."
Clearly the adjustment is what made Triaina possible, but Beelzebub actually doesn't make it clear whether he went ahead with the restriction or not. He's more like what the heck it might be fun

yes i did... but ise says himself its a illegal move.

And im sure Beelz didnt know what the unlock would actually do.
He allowed ise to open pandora's box, thinking it would be interesting to see what he pulls from it.
And CQ was said to be impossible to obtain also, yet ise did that as well.

Again... it was only allowed in the match against sairiog... we probably wont see him able to use it again in a raiting match unless the opponent has a lot of ballz and wants to see ise go all out.

either way vol.8 comes b4 vol.9
If it wasnt illegal, ise wouldnt say its an illegal move.

Originally Posted by zzhk

Overall, I think the whole notion of Pawns promoting in enemy territory is quite ill-defined outside of the Rating Game.

In a way, it seems like Ise can essentially promote whenever Rias allows it.
e.g. During Loki's first appearance.

traina doesnt require rais unless u actually consider him pushing her nipples a permission... :P

[ReaperxKingx]

No matter how much we discuss about how pawn pieces get promoted it really doesn't change the fact that Ise wouldn't do anything underhanded with them. Hey zzhk I reread Life. MAX VS Power　Man (Sekiryutei) vs Man (Shishiou) and found something interesting that is a big clue confirming whether or not Ise is dead. Read the part where Sairaorg met the Nemean Lion and Ddraig's reaction.

[aigomorla]

Originally Posted by ReaperxKingx

No matter how much we discuss about how pawn pieces get promoted it really doesn't change the fact that Ise wouldn't do anything underhanded with them. Hey zzhk I reread Life. MAX VS Power　Man (Sekiryutei) vs Man (Shishiou) and found something interesting that is a big clue confirming whether or not Ise is dead. Read the part where Sairaorg met the Nemean Lion and Ddraig's reaction.

we theorized about that this too...
and if worse come to worse we hope ddraig becomes a chibi dragon who can change into ise's armor....

This would actually be epic.... imagine ddraig chilling on ise's sholder crying each time something happens...
he would go from the chichiryutei, to the crying dragon...
Of course he would also probably get pissed and blow fire on ise's face making him have the allmighty afro burnt hair... :P

[dragonroots]

Reaper, there is one person that we've all seen with higher base stats than anyone, the original Son Goku, as everyone has been saying he has a power level over 9000!.

[aigomorla]

Originally Posted by dragonroots

Reaper, there is one person that we've all seen with higher base stats than anyone, the original Son Goku, as everyone has been saying he has a power level over 9000!.

actually i bet the oppai god is greater...

Even loki a god was freaked out at how much divine power he gave ise...

"I feel this unknown divine pulse. Another world's... God of Breasts? This Red Dragon Emperor is unbelievable!"
Loki can hardly believe what he witnessed

And Azazel is also saying:

"Damn, this guy's entire body was full of this incredible energy, Ise that crazy fellow.
Who the heck is the God of Breasts.."

other then that, yeah Goku's power is over 9000 because he can block the spear which killed god with 1 finger.

[HasNoLove]

Originally Posted by aigomorla

Triana Knight.... blitz.. touch... touch... touch.... Dress Break... GG sona's group...
Sona wouldnt allow Traina unless Ise got Promotion the legal way....

The best n fastest move ever if Ise allowed to do it in every games... the quickest one if Rias team pace with all girl team of Agares, well they could win aginst rias's if any one who get order to pace ise gladly naked without got embrasment just like seirogh bishop...(as along when they strip in right order)

[Blazenero007]

well god only created man in his image and created women from a rib so how did that women really look like from that rib God must gotten some outside like the oppai god lol and that solved adam's problems

[amtro]

I'm going to stand by my theory that the holders of the Boosted Gear and Divine Dividing are the actual reincarnations of the Red Dragon and White Dragon and that the Dragon entities sealed inside the Gauntlets are just remaining fragments of consciousness of the dragons, not the beasts themselves.
The Gauntlet serves as a seal to limit the powers of the reincarnated beasts until they can be controlled.
This not only opens up the opportunity for a possible revival and power up, but also allows Issei to surpass the original Ddraig in power (normally that would be impossible as the gauntlet will level cap at Ddraig's original level)

[HasNoLove]

Originally Posted by amtro

I'm going to stand by my theory that the holders of the Boosted Gear and Divine Dividing are the actual reincarnations of the Red Dragon and White Dragon and that the Dragon entities sealed inside the Gauntlets are just remaining fragments of consciousness of the dragons, not the beasts themselves.
The Gauntlet serves as a seal to limit the powers of the reincarnated beasts until they can be controlled.
This not only opens up the opportunity for a possible revival and power up, but also allows Issei to surpass the original Ddraig in power (normally that would be impossible as the gauntlet will level cap at Ddraig's original level)

I want to ask some thing bout it... Is Vali SG when it's form was a "thing" is a Gauntlet like Ise's..??

[amtro]

I think Divine Dividing takes the shape of a gauntlet on the user's right arm, opposed to the Boosted Gear that is worn on the left hand, yeah.

[HasNoLove]

^are ya sure bout that? can ya put a pic. fo confirm, cuz i kinda currious too...

[dragonroots]

http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/in...xd_v4_000e.jpg

Look at Ise's right arm, it has a white gauntlet.

[amtro]

When Issei steals a chunk of Divine Dividing it takes the shape of a white gauntlet on his right arm.
There is no pic, but there are the volume summaries.
You can read those.