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Old 2011-07-18, 05:23   Link #321
judasmartel
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So the fate of the RKB series comes down to this game, huh?

If the girls lose, okay, fine. We won't see much B-ball anymore, just pure fan service. That means I won't watch RKB anymore.

But if they do win, it could at least inspire at least five other girls to join the b-ball club, especially if the team plans to compete outside of school. If they intend to do so, they may need to recruit more people. That composes your bench.

I thought somebody said that NOT all moe types are present in this anime. I'm not sure what RKB really lacks, but I think some of them are the tsundere, the foreign exchange student, and the fighter.

Given that the writers would want to fill these voids, I would assign these roles if I were one of them:

Tsundere - either the versatile sixth man or the back-up point guard (this could make an in-team rival for Tomoka, pretty much the same way Sakuragi is for Rukawa)

Foreigner - most likely a legitimate power forward or a stretch four (a player who can play at least 3 positions, which usually are the shooting guard (SG), small forward (SF), and power forward (PF) positions) since Maho isn't a legit PF. I think she's more of an SG than a PF.

Let me finish later. Time to go back to work.
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Old 2011-07-18, 05:41   Link #322
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I seriously doubt that they'd set things up so they'll lose. Not to mention we at least know the game's not over.
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As for Subaru stooping to a cheap trick (possibly with Hinata), normally he would not. However, remember that these girls are going to lose their team if they don't win, and they only had a week to train. If he was training them and building them up with enough time, he would definitely refuse to do something like that. However, when the situation is absolutely desperate, there may be no choice but to pull a cheap shot like that. This isn't a match in the normal sense, it's a fight for the survival of the club and the existence of the show.

Also, I just found the manga. Does the manga hold true to the novels? If that's the case then they pulled out one detail in the anime that would make me a little bit more sympathetic to the boys:
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Old 2011-07-18, 06:04   Link #323
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Okay, I'm back. So let me add some more possible additions to the Loli Basketball Team. Of course, Tomoka and her five-man crew compose the core group. It means the additional people compose the bench.

Tsundere - versatile or defensive sixth man or back-up point guard OR a legitimate PF.

Foreigner - legit PF or stretch four

Comedienne - I honestly think she's an opponent instead of a teammate, and she could be a very nasty defender. Any position will suit her fine, but I would like her to be a swingman (one who can play both SG and SF). If not, well, we can try the Shawn Marion mold on her just as fine.

Background Character or Mystery Girl - I think she could make a perfect sixth man, pretty much like Shohoku's "Four-Eyes" Kogure. She doesn't stand out that much, even among the girls, but on the hard court, her game pretty much does the talking for her.

Fighter/Stoic - defensive specialist a la Brian Cardinal (he actually pwned LBJ and the rest of the Heat inside the paint during the NBA Finals)

For those who don't know what a sixth man is, he/she is usually the team's best reserve player, so he's/she's good enough to be a starter. The sixth man is also known as "the team energizer", as he/she can either provide strong offense and/or defense. An example of the sixth man is the Dallas Mavericks' J.J. Barea.

That's all I can think of for now. But you know what I think? A legitimate power forward is a must for Subaru's loli team. Otherwise, SMH.

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Old 2011-07-18, 06:15   Link #324
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Also, I just found the manga. Does the manga hold true to the novels? If that's the case then they pulled out one detail in the anime that would make me a little bit more sympathetic to the boys:
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I'm not sure on the novels but if we just based it in episode 2 when a boy member of basket ball team sneak in to watch what the girl team is doing. Maybe the manga stay true to the novel. I forget what the boy's name is but he said they are just playing around and from what Subaru see while his coaching that is kinda true too. Plus the girls basket ball team was found last year right? when Tomoka transfer in the school. At least months had past but they are still completely oblivious to basic or at least the 2 members really can't play at all before Subaru shows up. If they had a few months pass even if they are girls they should at least know basics among basics because Tomoka can play..... but can't also blame them if they don't have a good coach The coach too doesn't know anything about basket ball. And I'm not sure on Maho but in the flashback it looks to me she was just fascinated by Tomoka's play that she also wants to play it.
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Old 2011-07-18, 07:33   Link #325
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Just listened to the drama CD and oh my goodness...with my limited knowledge of some Japanese phrases:

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This is indeed a lolicon show.
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Old 2011-07-18, 07:40   Link #326
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Also, I just found the manga. Does the manga hold true to the novels? If that's the case then they pulled out one detail in the anime that would make me a little bit more sympathetic to the boys:
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Old 2011-07-18, 09:30   Link #327
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Maybe your missing the part when he realized that the boys are love struck to hinata and for me I imagine him having a grin and while in the game he will unleash honey trap strategy and goes as planned

He is popular from bringing a underdog team to a top level contender. I wonder what tactics and strategy he used back then but now the team his coaching are bunch of new beginners and girls to boot. He need to take advantage of what is given to him or it will just go to waste.
No, that came across just fine. It's just in that that would be such a disappointment if that's he actually intends to win this game. I'd have a hard time keeping up with this anime if our lead is the kind of guy who uses cheap tricks to win.
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Old 2011-07-18, 11:19   Link #328
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No, that came across just fine. It's just in that that would be such a disappointment if that's he actually intends to win this game. I'd have a hard time keeping up with this anime if our lead is the kind of guy who uses cheap tricks to win.
Then how do you propose him to do in order for the girls team too win. The girls lack training and all beginners. Plus if you see the episode 3 then you should know that they are clearly in disadvantage specially if the second part of the game where all the girls are already tired.

And the girls really need to win this no matter what or else the girls team will be disbanded and that will probably end the story <.<
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Old 2011-07-18, 11:22   Link #329
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In a situation where you are coaching a team that has less experience (aside from one member) then an entire team. While the stakes of losing is unacceptable, then you just have to use whatever it takes to get the greater good of results.
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Old 2011-07-18, 11:27   Link #330
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Then how do you propose him to do in order for the girls team too win. The girls lack training and all beginners. Plus if you see the episode 3 then you should know that they are clearly in disadvantage specially if the second part of the game where all the girls are already tired.

And the girls really need to win this no matter what or else the girls team will be disbanded and that will probably end the story <.<
It's a likely possibility that their team will be disbanded, but it's not absolute. I just think that for a young and upcoming basketball team, or any sports team for that matter, they shouldn't have to resort to such underhanded tactics in order to win, and I would have a hard time respecting Subaru as a character if he's the kind that wants to win at any cost.

Now you're right in that the girls are wearing out pretty quickly. Still, as we saw in the very 1st Episode, somehow it's going to come down to Tomoka (of course ) to decide whether they'll win the game or not.
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Old 2011-07-18, 11:43   Link #331
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It's a likely possibility that their team will be disbanded, but it's not absolute. I just think that for a young and upcoming basketball team, or any sports team for that matter, they shouldn't have to resort to such underhanded tactics in order to win, and I would have a hard time respecting Subaru as a character if he's the kind that wants to win at any cost.

Now you're right in that the girls are wearing out pretty quickly. Still, as we saw in the very 1st Episode, somehow it's going to come down to Tomoka (of course ) to decide whether they'll win the game or not.
But if you look at the score it's a close fight and Tomoka is handling the ball but guarded by 3 players. She pass the ball to the other side and we will just wait in the next episode on how that happens.

As for underhanded tactics. It might be wrong but it's not like they can win in a straight way with pure ability because they are lacking on that department. Subaru already make some training arrangements for the girls but that still won't be enough. Plus what do you suggest Hinata will do? I haven't seen her training or rather they don't show it so I also what kind of training Subaru make her do but with her physique she won't do much against the boys. Plus what's her position again I forgotten because she didn't play an important role yet last episode. But I'm sure she is the secret weapon
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Old 2011-07-18, 11:47   Link #332
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It's a likely possibility that their team will be disbanded, but it's not absolute. I just think that for a young and upcoming basketball team, or any sports team for that matter, they shouldn't have to resort to such underhanded tactics in order to win, and I would have a hard time respecting Subaru as a character if he's the kind that wants to win at any cost.

Now you're right in that the girls are wearing out pretty quickly. Still, as we saw in the very 1st Episode, somehow it's going to come down to Tomoka (of course ) to decide whether they'll win the game or not.
How do you figure it's not absolute after seeing the guy coaching the boy's team? The second they win that game the girl's club is going to be disbanded no doubt about it. Their only real choices are to let that happen or use underhanded methods. Just not enough time to bring a group mostly made of beginners up to the level of an experienced team. All the hard work they've put in could only get them to this point and you don't win by leading only at the half way point. It's not like Subaru wants to win at any cost, but he wants to protect the place for them to play and Tomoka's game.

In the end this was an unfair challenge from the very start. All the girls gain if they win is for things to remain constant while their team gets destroyed if they lose.
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Old 2011-07-18, 12:42   Link #333
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I seriously doubt that they'd set things up so they'll lose. Not to mention we at least know the game's not over.
Eh. It wouldn't be unusual for them to lose but impress the boys enough they let them keep their teams, and maybe have joint practices.
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Old 2011-07-18, 12:53   Link #334
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Eh. It wouldn't be unusual for them to lose but impress the boys enough they let them keep their teams, and maybe have joint practices.
Will the coach of the basket ball team allows that ... or maybe the members... it might be possible because other people are watching. They can make an appeal to the higher ups and such because they did brought results even though they might loose. They still manage to hold it to one point difference. But the looks on that boys in episode one still makes me think they won't agree in the normal way and the coach too such an idiot coach
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Old 2011-07-18, 18:45   Link #335
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But if you look at the score it's a close fight and Tomoka is handling the ball but guarded by 3 players. She pass the ball to the other side and we will just wait in the next episode on how that happens.

As for underhanded tactics. It might be wrong but it's not like they can win in a straight way with pure ability because they are lacking on that department. Subaru already make some training arrangements for the girls but that still won't be enough. Plus what do you suggest Hinata will do? I haven't seen her training or rather they don't show it so I also what kind of training Subaru make her do but with her physique she won't do much against the boys. Plus what's her position again I forgotten because she didn't play an important role yet last episode. But I'm sure she is the secret weapon
At the opening tip, the positions are like this:

Point Guard - Hinata
Shooting Guard - Saki
Center - Tomoka
Small Forward - Airi
Power Forward - Maho


After the opening tip, it now looks like this:

PG - Tomoka
SG - Hinata
C - Airi (she doesn't know she's actually the "big man" C yet)
SF - Saki
PF - Maho
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Old 2011-07-21, 13:44   Link #336
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I was wondering how he was going to trick Airi, can't believe that's what he did. She even sleeps in a coffin. Can't believe Subaru didn't teach them some conditioning, there's still a whole quarter to go. Well maybe next ep is when we get back to the first scene in the first ep
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Old 2011-07-21, 15:12   Link #337
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I was wondering how he was going to trick Airi, can't believe that's what he did. She even sleeps in a coffin. Can't believe Subaru didn't teach them some conditioning, there's still a whole quarter to go. Well maybe next ep is when we get back to the first scene in the first ep
Conditioning? You can only do so much in a week. And I don't think there's a substitute for running day after day.
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Old 2011-07-21, 15:49   Link #338
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Old 2011-07-22, 11:16   Link #340
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