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Old 2013-02-28, 12:31   Link #1701
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Though I wonder if this well be considered safe for driving and work for perscription lenses.
Theoretically, it should make it so you never have to buy another pair of glasses again. The glass should be able to adjust itself similar to a prescription lens. Whether they make it so they can or not remains to be seen, but if they can't, they'd be excluding a HUGE market, since most people with glasses don't want to wear glasses on top of their glasses.
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Old 2013-02-28, 13:14   Link #1702
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"Mind melds" move from science fiction to science in rats:

"The scientists call it a "brain link," and it is the closest anyone has gotten to
a real-life "mind meld": the thoughts of a rat romping around a lab in Brazil
were captured by electronic sensors and sent via Internet to the brain of a rat
in the United States.

The result: the second rat received the thoughts of the first, mimicking its
behavior, researchers reported on Thursday in Scientific Reports, a journal of
the Nature Publishing Group.

Adding to its science-fiction feel, the advance in direct brain-to-brain
communication could lay the foundation for what Duke University Medical
Center neurobiologist Miguel Nicolelis, who led the research, calls an "organic
computer" in which multiple brains are linked to solve problems solo brains can't.

If that sounds like an ethical minefield, several experts think so too, especially
since Nicolelis is now working on brain-to-brain communication between
monkeys."

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http://news.yahoo.com/mind-melds-mov...144950902.html


We are monkey of borg, resistance is futile..........
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Old 2013-02-28, 13:42   Link #1703
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@AnimeFan188 That is the first step towards realizing a Psycho Pass style world >_<
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Old 2013-02-28, 16:39   Link #1704
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Blueprint for an artificial brain:

"Scientists have long been dreaming about building a computer that would work
like a brain. This is because a brain is far more energy-saving than a computer, it
can learn by itself, and it doesn't need any programming. Privatdozent [senior
lecturer] Dr. Andy Thomas from Bielefeld University's Faculty of Physics is
experimenting with memristors - electronic microcomponents that imitate natural
nerves.

Thomas and his colleagues proved that they could do this a year ago. They
constructed a memristor that is capable of learning. Andy Thomas is now using his
memristors as key components in a blueprint for an artificial brain. He will be
presenting his results at the beginning of March in the print edition of the
prestigious Journal of Physics published by the Institute of Physics in London."

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http://www.terradaily.com/reports/Bl...brain_999.html


Now all we need to do is figure out how to mind-meld with it.
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Old 2013-02-28, 17:44   Link #1705
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Now all we need to do is figure out how to mind-meld with it.
The artificial brain will learn first how to do the brain meld and then the Eye of the Moon Plan can be completed! O_O
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Old 2013-03-01, 16:47   Link #1706
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“Download this gun”: 3D-printed semi-automatic fires over 600 rounds:

"Wilson’s nonprofit organization, Defense Distributed, released a video this week
showing a gun firing off over 600 rounds—illustrating what is likely to be the first
wave of semi-automatic and automatic weapons produced by the additive
manufacturing process."

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http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2...er-600-rounds/
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Old 2013-03-01, 16:50   Link #1707
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3D printer, the ancestor of the Replicator.

i want one and i have no idea what to do with it.
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Old 2013-03-01, 16:54   Link #1708
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When it can successfully print out food will be the day industries change.
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Old 2013-03-01, 17:42   Link #1709
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When it can successfully print out food will be the day industries change.
Food will be only half of the revolution (no more need to grow a whole cow if you just one a piece of meat), the other half will be cloned organs, so people in need of a new heart, pancreas, liver or kidney (to the most common organs that break down) they will have them and with time even a whole arm or a leg.
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Old 2013-03-01, 19:46   Link #1710
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When it can successfully print out food will be the day industries change.
What would be the raw materials? Humans Plankton?
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Old 2013-03-01, 20:03   Link #1711
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What would be the raw materials? Humans Plankton?
Stem cells and Water, 35 litres. Carbon, 20kg. Ammonia, 4 litres. Lime, 1.5kg. Phosperus, 800g. Salt, 250 g. Niter, 100g. Sulphur, 80g. Fluorine, 7.5g. Iron, 5g. Silicon 3g. And fifteen other elements.
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Old 2013-03-01, 21:33   Link #1712
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Stem cells and Water, 35 litres. Carbon, 20kg. Ammonia, 4 litres. Lime, 1.5kg. Phosperus, 800g. Salt, 250 g. Niter, 100g. Sulphur, 80g. Fluorine, 7.5g. Iron, 5g. Silicon 3g. And fifteen other elements.
Don't give him a receipe; first thing we know he will try to print himself a loli
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Old 2013-03-01, 21:42   Link #1713
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Don't give him a receipe; first thing we know he will try to print himself a loli
You can only print non living things.

I know! I can get a loli to print myself another loli....... *IS SHOT*
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Old 2013-03-02, 16:07   Link #1714
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Software Lets Scientists Assemble DNA

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Don't give him a receipe; first thing we know he will try to print himself a loli
You might have said it for laughs, but read this:

Biochemical engineers can now download a piece of software and, with a few simple clicks, assemble the DNA for new life forms through their laptops ... Once satisfied with the results, a scientist can save her invention to a file, click the order button and ship the virtual creature’s specs to a DNA synthesizing lab such as GenScript or GeneArt, which can assemble actual physical DNA based on the specs.

This technology is still in diapers, but aided with 3D printing technology you could pretty much create a living bipedal organism that looks humanoid (elf ears, tails, cat eyes, anything goes) without having any human (or mammal) specific DNA at all, you could do without reproduction and you could even do without a brain, placing a pre-programmed computer inside the head. So in the near future you could indeed enter a website, modify the base model to suit your needs and place an order.

Would this be slavery? would it be immoral? how would it be different from owning a cat or a dog?
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Old 2013-03-02, 16:24   Link #1715
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You might have said it for laughs, but read this:

Biochemical engineers can now download a piece of software and, with a few simple clicks, assemble the DNA for new life forms through their laptops ... Once satisfied with the results, a scientist can save her invention to a file, click the order button and ship the virtual creature’s specs to a DNA synthesizing lab such as GenScript or GeneArt, which can assemble actual physical DNA based on the specs.

This technology is still in diapers, but aided with 3D printing technology you could pretty much create a living bipedal organism that looks humanoid (elf ears, tails, cat eyes, anything goes) without having any human (or mammal) specific DNA at all, you could do without reproduction and you could even do without a brain, placing a pre-programmed computer inside the head. So in the near future you could indeed enter a website, modify the base model to suit your needs and place an order.

Would this be slavery? would it be immoral? how would it be different from owning a cat or a dog?
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Old 2013-03-02, 16:26   Link #1716
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You might have said it for laughs, but read this:

Biochemical engineers can now download a piece of software and, with a few simple clicks, assemble the DNA for new life forms through their laptops ... Once satisfied with the results, a scientist can save her invention to a file, click the order button and ship the virtual creature’s specs to a DNA synthesizing lab such as GenScript or GeneArt, which can assemble actual physical DNA based on the specs.
Oh geez, Fox News. For what it's worth, this isn't new stuff and I think it's being overhyped. Designating a DNA sequence and then sending it off to a company to create is common and pretty darn cheap. We do it all the time when designing probes for PCR. If there's anything new here I presume it would be the maximum length that the company can create, but I didn't see anything in the article to indicate that some new barrier was overcome. They talk a bit about modifying viruses and bacteria, but we already do that, too. We have been for quite a while.

But if it gets people excited about science, all right...
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Old 2013-03-02, 16:32   Link #1717
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The thing is, what use is it when it doesn't allow us to assemble our DNA in a way that our telomeres are infinitely long? Or rather, develop a self-replicating gene that allows us to have some sort of gene therapy?
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Old 2013-03-02, 16:37   Link #1718
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Don't give him a receipe; first thing we know he will try to print himself a loli
recipe is easy. Sugar, Spice and Everything Nice
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Old 2013-03-02, 16:38   Link #1719
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If there's anything new here
In the same fashion there were not many headlines when the transistor was invented. What is interesting is not what this technology can do now, but what it will be able to do in a few years, thinking "if some technical barriers are overcome" IMO is pessimist at best, it is a matter of exactly when, not about "if". At least that is what living in the computer generation has taught me and DNA technology is nowadays powered by computers and software.
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Old 2013-03-02, 16:40   Link #1720
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The thing is, what use is it when it doesn't allow us to assemble our DNA in a way that our telomeres are infinitely long?
That'd be cancer.

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Or rather, develop a self-replicating gene that allows us to have some sort of gene therapy?
Sounds like viruses, cancer, and genetic diseases (see Huntington's disease for the classic example).

There's a reason why our biological systems are the way that they are. These restrictions can probably be overcome without creating problems, but it won't be a one-step process.

More importantly, assembling DNA is nothing. Getting it to take in a cell and grow cohesively into a multicellular organism is another thing entirely. There's a reason why in vitro fertilization is in vitro fertilization and not in vitro embryogenesis, or in vitro childbearing. Even when we have something multicellular with the DNA and cellular machinery in place we can't provide the complex environmental signaling necessary to have it grow properly.

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In the same fashion there were not many headlines when the transistor was invented. What is interesting is not what this technology can do now, but what it will be able to do in a few years, thinking "if some technical barriers are overcome" IMO is pessimist at best, it is a matter of exactly when, not about "if". At least that is what living in the computer generation has taught me and DNA technology is nowadays powered by computers and software.
I'm not being pessimistic, I was doing research on things like this. I have no doubt that some day we'll overcome the various issues, but the realities of what can and can't be done were very much a part of my day to day problem solving. I don't mean to shoot down anyone's dreams, though - carry on
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