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Old 2012-07-02, 01:58   Link #321
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I'm talking about the originals. Gundam didn't spend an episode on why the Sides were built and how Zeon came to rebel -- the opening shot of the series is an O'Neill cylinder falling on a city while the narrator says, "Hey, there's like this civil war between Earth and its space colonies, and it's left billions dead on both sides," and then the episode jumps straight into Amaro's story. All the the other backstory is worked into the narrative as needed. Ditto Macross.
I think thats what the 0079 part of my post was addressing. It wasn't initially widely as accepted as it is now due to jumping into the story with no back plot.

Still, i cannot really comment on how ML:TE will turn out. I will be waiting to see more first.
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Old 2012-07-02, 02:22   Link #322
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I have to say, because I'm a Muv-Luv fan (in fact I just finished Alternative just last week again to prep for this anime), I think that's where most of my enjoyment stems from in this first episode.

I can't say I'd feel the same way if I wasn't a fan, it's tough for me to think like that. I don't know if this series was garnered more towards fans of the franchise, but it certainly felt like it to me. I could see how some people new to the franchise could be put off by this first episode.

I agree though that these first two episodes setup the tone of the Muv-Luv series rather well, because things go from relatively peaceful to bat-s**t insane rather quickly in the game too.


And on another note, I was hoping they'd use the Original Soundtrack from the game, or at least certain tracks. Kinda bummed that they didn't (yet?), but it's certainly understandable.
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Old 2012-07-02, 03:33   Link #323
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Wow, that was quite an intense and exciting first episode. It really has a nice Gunbuster feel to it. It's been a while since I've last seen a serious mecha series with this type of vibe. I really want a second episode now.

It is really nice to have a mecha series where the main character isn't automatically the most awesome fighter in the history of mecha, although that could change as the story goes on. This series has hooked me from episode 1.

I'm sure more of the story will be explained later on, but this first episode felt great. The art is great, the animation is great, and the flow was excellent. I did not feel like they wasted any part of the episode timewise. The only thing that I felt a little out there was the jumpsuits. They were so form fitting in an otherwise serious plot so far, and they made the girls seem nude.

I really do wish that they make episodes 1 and 2 back to back in order to better flesh out the beginning. However, this is still quite a nice start.
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Old 2012-07-02, 03:36   Link #324
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Anyone watched the 2nd ep at the Premiere yet? I heard they aired it as well, arghhh !!! wish i could be there .
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Old 2012-07-02, 03:39   Link #325
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About the suits, they are actually made to withstand knife blows and small arms fire. Doesn't do much against BETA though.
As for why they are transparent, the reason given is since out in battle there is no such thing as Male and Female quarters, they have to get used to seeing each other's body, so all trainees have transparent suits. The full pilots have colored suits.
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Old 2012-07-02, 04:28   Link #326
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Haven't watched this (and probably wouldn't anyway because of the "death flags ahoy" message everywhere) but aside from the nice-looking mecha, it appears that it's going for the shock and awe factor and a death toll that would rival Another.

Tell me those students aren't gonna eaten by those BETAs without a fight.
Otherwise, they're all worse than Heine Westenfluss.
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Old 2012-07-02, 04:59   Link #327
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considering that only one main character from the cast appeared so far, and that this 2 ep mini arc took place before the actual story........yeah
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Old 2012-07-02, 05:57   Link #328
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2 Eps dedicated to the situation in Japan...

Well it is an enjoyable first ep, even if the TE story hasn't actually begun yet.

To those complaining about the animation....it is not ultra good but relative to the standard shows these days you think it's far inferior? Seriously?

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I have to say, because I'm a Muv-Luv fan (in fact I just finished Alternative just last week again to prep for this anime), I think that's where most of my enjoyment stems from in this first episode.

I can't say I'd feel the same way if I wasn't a fan, it's tough for me to think like that. I don't know if this series was garnered more towards fans of the franchise, but it certainly felt like it to me. I could see how some people new to the franchise could be put off by this first episode.
Why? Wouldn't they appreciate some info? You can give it as the main story goes along but to someone whom the first ep is the first they see of the setting, would not showing one of the war fronts better convey the entire direness of the situation far better?
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Old 2012-07-02, 06:05   Link #329
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Still seemed like they painted too bright an image for everyday life even in '97 when the BETA were ravaging South East Asia right next door.

However I did enjoy a lot of the little details. Seeing Yui jump into her Gekishin and the HUD uplink being established off the headgear was great.

The ships, tanks and artillery artwork was a bit of a let down especially for a first episode. Normally you see some of the best stuff in the opening episode to perk interest. I can only hope it gets better as the show rolls on.


But I do have a question so someone humour me, please. When an anime airs, how many episodes would normally be ready to air? I highly doubt the series in completely done when it starts airing but I don't honestly know.
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Old 2012-07-02, 07:46   Link #330
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So, saw this without any prior knowledge - just the scanty details on ANN, as I do my usual season opening run-through and watch most all the shows that sound remotely good (this season, I'm also sharing my initial feedback on each show's forums out of curiosity). I know mostly pre-existing fans haunt here - but I'm not one. However, I may soon be - Jinrui wa Suitai Shimashita got a potentially epic fail from me, but this one... I really liked the first ep. This is a potential epic win.
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I like the tone, I like the world setup, and the pacing was - as someone else already stated- almost perfect. If this is backstory, then great - I REALLY like when rather than refer back to the past events, stories (like the game Tales of Graces) actually play out the event, then move on to the present. I think it gives it more power. Who cares if someone is broken up over one of their old classmates death several years ago? Okay, sorry, but we don't KNOW them. But if we get to know them even briefly, like here - we see and feel the bond- suddenly, if they die and we see it, and years later she is grieving... okay, NOW I feel ya. I connect better, if it is done well.

As for the
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- I might suggest you make that a 'spoiler' for future reference. I'm not bothered by it - but I had no clue, and I would have gone into episode 2 having no clue what would happen, now, by virtue of skimming this one page, I know more, and that's okay, but... people should be able to decide if they want to know that

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Old 2012-07-02, 08:55   Link #331
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Muv-Luv.... Never heard of the series but looks interesting. Seems a bit heavy on fanservice but I'm willing to let that be overlooked since I'm just here for the Mecha action. Looks good enough that it could one day get in a SRW title from my impressions of the first episode. I mean Iczer got in before and SRW has done worse in the name of fanservice - Aqua's Pilot Suit from MX so that wouldn't be an issue.

Though it would require Getter Robo Armageddon changes since a lot of mecha animes require Japan and the rest of the world to be mostly intact...

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Old 2012-07-02, 09:08   Link #332
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You know what? I LOVED the first episode. I can't think of any anime in recent memory that had the seriousness, urgency, and feeling of despair that Total Eclipse has given. Breath of fresh air when compared to other mecha like say, Akb0048, Gundam AGE, or Eureka 7.
Totally agreed with you on that point. I played and Love muv luv alternative, watched TE and glad they able to simulate the feeling of dread and urgency that humankind is facing against Beta.

So the first two episodes are mini arc before the main story... i hope the "main"part of TE have many of these sense of urgency and despair on it, loved the atmosphere on alternative, hoped TE is on the same league as the main trilogy.
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Old 2012-07-02, 09:13   Link #333
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Overall a good first episode. I don't see why people are complaining about the animation it was fine same goes for the art sure the cgi could be better but you get what you get.
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Old 2012-07-02, 09:14   Link #334
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I don't think it will be as urgent as the first arc since apparantly a lot of people die before the story picks up to the present.

From the loks of things I thought this was an all girl mecha show but it looks like there's a guy pilot after the skip?
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Old 2012-07-02, 09:38   Link #335
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Well seen the 1st episode, as a Muv-Luv fan there where lots of things that made me reminiscence on the novels, it appears mostly great for me but it might be just cause i'm addicted to muv-luv . I don't know though what to say about the op song, i don't quite got a muv-luv feel from it. And i agree with grylsyjaeger regarding the artwork, i expected more in some cases (like the shogun's face & artillery). Still seeing Genshikin's was win XD.

PS: i like how in the beginning they keep the beta sort of in the shadows avoiding to showing them directly like in the novels XD.

PS regarding suits: the reason why they are transparent its as its been said they act to kill individuality not to cause problems on the frontlines where they need to group them all together. Also the more soft part of the suit is actually made of a shock absorbing fabric that has several purposes to keep the pilot alive but in a nutshell basically its great at absorbing impacts and shock not to mention its more closer to reality then some might think:

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Old 2012-07-02, 09:52   Link #336
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I liked the explanation intro part.
It helped a lot with the rest of the episode.
Watching Yui & her friends in everyday life was nice.
It was pretty cool how those mechas have giant katanas ^^
Invasion at their doorstep...how will they handle it?
Yui had some nice thoughts near the end of episode.
Will be probably watching this one for the mecha & aliens part.
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Old 2012-07-02, 09:54   Link #337
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[QUOTE=coroloro;4234666]So, saw this without any prior knowledge - just the scanty details on ANN, as I do my usual season opening run-through and watch most all the shows that sound remotely good (this season, I'm also sharing my initial feedback on each show's forums out of curiosity). I know mostly pre-existing fans haunt here - but I'm not one. However, I may soon be - Jinrui wa Suitai Shimashita got a potentially epic fail from me, but this one... I really liked the first ep. This is a potential epic win.
Spoiler for total eclipse:


I like the tone, I like the world setup, and the pacing was - as someone else already stated- almost perfect. If this is backstory, then great - I REALLY like when rather than refer back to the past events, stories (like the game Tales of Graces) actually play out the event, then move on to the present. I think it gives it more power. Who cares if someone is broken up over one of their old classmates death several years ago? Okay, sorry, but we don't KNOW them. But if we get to know them even briefly, like here - we see and feel the bond- suddenly, if they die and we see it, and years later she is grieving... okay, NOW I feel ya. I connect better, if it is done well./QUOTE]

I pretty much have to agree line-by-line with this one. I'm not at all familiar with the overall franchise--my knowledge of it is pretty much confined to what I've learned by reading over this thread and skimming the Wikipedia entry; basically, it was the PVs that caught my eye in advance of this season and made me want to check things out. Fanservice moments aside (hey, eroge roots are eroge roots, and they nicely limited said service to plug-suit design and the occasional camera angle thereupon), I found the sense of threat and urgency palpable; as to the "death flags" issue, sure, I expect lots if not everyone to be killed off in Ep. 2, but that's because the setting (and the fact that it's a flashback) make it damned likely, not because of some artificial scripting points. The first ep. sets the viewer up to expect grief, bitterness, and the Hell of War as recurring themes, and if the rest of the show keeps up it'll be an enjoyable (if grim) experience.

If anything, I have to say that I'm not surprised by the negative comments (indeed, I am surprised by the positive ones from existing Muv-Luv fans) here--I can't recall a VN franchise adaptation that was actually liked by the existing fans of the franchise with the exception of Fate/Zero. But as an outsider coming in, at least the first episode leaves me interested in watching more and in knowing more about the franchise...which I suspect is kind of the point.
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Old 2012-07-02, 09:58   Link #338
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I absolutely liked the first episode. Some may be cringing on the focus over the girls. But, this single episode carried a lot more gravitas than most of those remotely similar put together. Even if the bloodshed and the fights were at a minimum in this first episode, you really had a feeling of impending danger from the smallest details.

First impressions: 17/20

Waiting to see the next episode.
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Old 2012-07-02, 10:01   Link #339
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Still seemed like they painted too bright an image for everyday life even in '97 when the BETA were ravaging South East Asia right next door.
I agree. In fact, that bothered me a lot. The girls were way too carefree when you take into account the fact the whole world is at war with an alien race (and it didn't seem like they were winning) and they were going to be sent to battle soon. Looking at them, you could hardly tell there was a war going on. That almost ruined the episode for me.

Thankfully, it looks like their normal everyday life is already a relic of the past. The second half of the episode made up for the shitty first half. Not completely sold on this yet, but I'm looking forward to the next episode.
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Old 2012-07-02, 10:20   Link #340
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So far, the first episode left me with good impressions. Being a newcomer to Muv-Luv, I hope it gets me into the rest of the universe. Definately an anime I'll be following every week in hopes that it will get much better.

I have a feeling that it will be much darker and much bloodier. Heck, someone already crashed to her unfortunate death.

I'm curious as to why the entire class of cadets is made up of females...
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