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Old 2014-06-17, 20:41   Link #1
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Fury (2014) - WW2 Tanker movie

Surprised to not see a topic about this yet:

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An actual movie about WW2 Sherman tankers is definitely a must see. The interesting part is that this particular trailer was shown in E3 by Wargaming.net, aka the guys behind World of Tanks. Also, The_Chieftain, who's the game's military history advisor, provided technical advice on this movie.
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Old 2014-06-17, 23:25   Link #2
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Being a fan of Brad Pitt myself, I'll surely keep an eye on this. Still, it's quite rare to see a movie involving tank action on the forefront these days, and even less focusing on the perspective of one tank crew in particular.
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Old 2014-06-17, 23:42   Link #3
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Looks pretty good. Been a while since we've had a good WW2 movie that was focused on a small group like this I think. Makes me think of Saving Private Ryan, probably for obvious reasons.
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Old 2014-06-19, 06:34   Link #4
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Did anyone else for a second thought it was going to be a movie about this fella:


When you saw the thread title?
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Old 2014-06-19, 06:57   Link #5
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100% thought that, and I wouldn't be surprised in the slightest if they named it as they did to prey on that.
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Old 2014-06-26, 17:36   Link #6
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Actual trailer out:

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Old 2014-06-26, 21:04   Link #7
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I've watched the trailer a few times now and have tried to figure out whether it will probably blow or it will be good. Some of it looks awesome, other parts... I seriously question why they chose the actors they did.

Michael Pena is a phenomenal character actor, so I'm sure he'll be fine. I won't be able to take Shia Lebeof seriously. I don't know anything about this Logan Lerman kid. Jon Bernthal should be fine. Brad Pitt is an x-factor... he could ruin it or he could be great.

I know it's a trailer 5 months from commercial release, but... man. How can half the trailer look so well done and half look so bad?
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Old 2014-09-10, 12:17   Link #8
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International trailer, showing off more of the tank battles:

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Old 2014-09-10, 18:35   Link #9
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Old 2014-09-10, 18:39   Link #10
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One of the things I am liking is the appearance of real tanks, real explosions and minimal CGI. At least that is what I am hoping for.
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Old 2014-09-11, 00:21   Link #11
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One of the things I am liking is the appearance of real tanks, real explosions and minimal CGI. At least that is what I am hoping for.
Yup, the tanks here being real is one of the selling points. Most WW2 films with tanks have "dress ups" being used to portray Tigers and Shermans. This movie though has actual Shermans being used, and an actual Tiger tank (Bovington Museum's Tiger 131, aka the only Tiger tank in the world in running condition).
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Old 2014-09-11, 01:37   Link #12
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The only problem seems to be the trailer already showed the best bit of the whole movie....
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Old 2014-09-11, 07:39   Link #13
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One of the things I am liking is the appearance of real tanks, real explosions and minimal CGI. At least that is what I am hoping for.
http://www.questtv.co.uk/combat-dealers/

There's an episode in that show where there are discussions for loaning tanks and equipment for this movie.
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Old 2014-09-12, 08:49   Link #14
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Why couldn't those planes be P-47s instead of P-51s?

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Old 2014-10-19, 20:07   Link #15
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Anyone see this yet?

I saw it this afternoon. It was pretty good, but felt it could've been a whole lot better. It tried really hard to *not* be Hollywood for 75% of the movie and then... it became Hollywood at the end.

Still, I am glad it brought to light how ferocious the fighting was late in the war. There is a very common misconception that the fighting was mostly over by the Battle of the Bulge.
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Old 2014-10-19, 22:51   Link #16
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I watched it Friday Night. I did like how they included the realism with use of real tanks, explosions etc. Except where the missions were concerned, yes some of the drama is Hollywood MFG WWII story. I think Saving Private Ryan pretty well set the tone of all modern WWII made movies. So this one kinda follows the same vein.

On that note, I was thinking back to the Girls und Panzer tie in for advertising for this movie in Japan. Other than tanks, one is sweet and moe and the other is pure blood, guts and violence in the highest order. Interesting advertising choice indeed...
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Old 2014-10-19, 23:44   Link #17
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Anyone see this yet?

I saw it this afternoon. It was pretty good, but felt it could've been a whole lot better. It tried really hard to *not* be Hollywood for 75% of the movie and then... it became Hollywood at the end.

Still, I am glad it brought to light how ferocious the fighting was late in the war. There is a very common misconception that the fighting was mostly over by the Battle of the Bulge.

Hollywood And Tanks:

"The promotional material for the Brad Pitt movie Fury dramatizes an encounter
between a platoon of Shermans and a Tiger 1 in where the Shermans get the worst
of it. It exemplifies the by now well known line that it took five or six Shermans to
take out a single Tiger.

I was somewhat surprised in later life to learn that this might not be true, which
was shocking. While there is no doubt that a Tiger or a Panther was much better
armored and gunned vehicle than the average Sherman, some scholars have
argued that as a weapons system the Sherman was the superior of either
armored fighting vehicle. Steven Zaloga is probably the most well known
advocate of this point of view.

In his book Panther vs Sherman Zaloga looked at the record and found that on
average the Shermans killed more than their number of Panthers or Tigers. Now
how could that be? Given the Sherman’s automotive inferiority the question was
why this should even be possible. Examining 98 engagements in the Ardennes,
Army researchers discovered something rather interesting.

The study concluded that the single most important factor in tank-versus-tank
fighting was which side spotted the enemy first, engaged first and hit first. This
gave the defender a distinct advantage, since the defending tanks were typically
stationary in a well-chosen ambush position. …

The side that saw first and hit first usually had the advantage in the first critical
minute … the overall record suggests that the Sherman was 3.6 times more
effective than the Panther … popular myths that that Panthers enjoyed a 5-to-1
kill ratio against Shermans or that it took five Shermans to knock out a Panther
have no basis in historical records. The outcome of tank-versus-tank fighting was
more often determined by the tactical situation than the technical situation.

Since the Shermans were more numerous and mechanically reliable, they typically
got to the key terrain first. They kept going whereas the Panthers and Tigers
could only road march short distances from their transporters and railheads. Thus,
in most engagements the Shermans could get set up because there were so
many of them and they tended to run reliably.

If there was a hill to be grabbed, a road to be blocked, the Shermans would get
there first. By contrast, the German tanks were mechanically fragile. For all their
power they were on average, late to the party. Therefore, on a fluid battlefield
the Shermans would almost always arrive first on the key terrain and bushwhack
the panzers. Zaloga’s conclusion was astounding. And yet it may be true."

See:

http://pjmedia.com/richardfernandez/...ood-and-tanks/

In actual battle, the Sherman may have been rather underrated.
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Old 2014-10-20, 14:44   Link #18
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So my friend was talking about this yesterday with me. Of course I had no idea what he was talking about at all. Until I found this thread
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Old 2014-10-20, 19:51   Link #19
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In actual battle, the Sherman may have been rather underrated.
I agree to an extent. And I don't get why the comment was made about "automotive inferiority." While they were known as "Ronsons" because of the use of gasoline engines, that isn't an "automotive" inferiority. One of the Shermans' strengths was the responsiveness of its V-8 engine (well, depending on model). American doctrine heading into the war called for rapid advance of armor to engage rear-echelon forces. They weren't intended to slug it out face-to-face with other tanks.

And that doesn't bring up another good point; the German tanks were really finicky mechanically. They were well-armed and well-armored, but they were like house cats mechanically. So very finicky.

But the armor on Shermans was a problem, no doubt. That happened in the film was more than possible.
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Old 2014-10-23, 21:50   Link #20
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Great film, I love it
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